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From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 02/22] liveupdate: luo_core: integrate with KHO
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2025 12:21:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aRRflLTejNQXWa1Z@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+CK2bD3hps+atqUZ2LKyuoOSRRUWpTPE+frd5g13js4EAFK8g@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 03:42:24PM -0500, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 3:39 PM Pasha Tatashin
> <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >       kho_memory_init();
> > > >
> > > > +     /* Live Update should follow right after KHO is initialized */
> > > > +     liveupdate_init();
> > > > +
> > >
> > > Why do you think it should be immediately after kho_memory_init()?
> > > Any reason this can't be called from start_kernel() or even later as an
> > > early_initcall() or core_initall()?
> >
> > Unfortunately, no, even here it is too late, and we might need to find
> > a way to move the kho_init/liveupdate_init earlier. We must be able to
> > preserve HugeTLB pages, and those are reserved earlier in boot.
> 
> Just to clarify: liveupdate_init() is needed to start using:
> liveupdate_flb_incoming_* API, and FLB data is needed during HugeTLB
> reservation.

Since flb is "file-lifecycle-bound", it implies *file*. Early memory
reservations in hugetlb are not bound to files, they end up in file objects
way later.

So I think for now we can move liveupdate_init() later in boot and we will
solve the problem of hugetlb reservations when we add support for hugetlb.
 
> Pasha

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-12 10:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-07 21:02 [PATCH v5 00/22] Live Update Orchestrator Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:02 ` [PATCH v5 01/22] liveupdate: luo_core: luo_ioctl: " Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-13 13:37   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-13 13:56     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 02/22] liveupdate: luo_core: integrate with KHO Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-10 13:00   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-10 15:43     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-11 20:16       ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-11 20:57         ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-12 13:25           ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-12 14:58             ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-13 16:31               ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-13 18:38                 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-11 20:25   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-11 20:39     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-11 20:42       ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-12 10:21         ` Mike Rapoport [this message]
2025-11-12 12:46           ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-12 13:33             ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-12 15:14               ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-12 17:39                 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-14 11:29   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-14 14:48     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 03/22] reboot: call liveupdate_reboot() before kexec Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-14 11:30   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 04/22] liveupdate: Kconfig: Make debugfs optional Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 05/22] liveupdate: kho: when live update add KHO image during kexec load Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-10 12:47   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-10 15:31     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-11 20:18       ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-11 20:59         ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 06/22] liveupdate: luo_session: add sessions support Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-12 20:39   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-12 20:47     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-14 12:49   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-14 14:07     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 07/22] liveupdate: luo_ioctl: add user interface Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-14 12:57   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-14 14:09     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 08/22] liveupdate: luo_file: implement file systems callbacks Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-10 17:27   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-11-10 17:42     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 09/22] liveupdate: luo_session: Add ioctls for file preservation and state management Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 10/22] liveupdate: luo_flb: Introduce File-Lifecycle-Bound global state Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 11/22] docs: add luo documentation Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 12/22] MAINTAINERS: add liveupdate entry Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 13/22] mm: shmem: use SHMEM_F_* flags instead of VM_* flags Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 14/22] mm: shmem: allow freezing inode mapping Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 15/22] mm: shmem: export some functions to internal.h Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 16/22] liveupdate: luo_file: add private argument to store runtime state Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 17/22] mm: memfd_luo: allow preserving memfd Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 18/22] docs: add documentation for memfd preservation via LUO Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-13 16:55   ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-13 16:59     ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 19/22] selftests/liveupdate: Add userspace API selftests Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 20/22] selftests/liveupdate: Add kexec-based selftest for session lifecycle Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 21/22] selftests/liveupdate: Add kexec test for multiple and empty sessions Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 22/22] tests/liveupdate: Add in-kernel liveupdate test Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-12 20:23   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-12 20:40     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-16 18:36       ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-17 14:09         ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 22:33 ` [PATCH v5 00/22] Live Update Orchestrator Andrew Morton
2025-11-08 18:13   ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-08 18:36     ` Andrew Morton
2025-11-09  2:31       ` Pasha Tatashin

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