From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Vadim Fedorenko <vadim.fedorenko@linux.dev>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Florian Fainelli <florian.fainelli@broadcom.com>,
Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Andrei Botila <andrei.botila@oss.nxp.com>,
Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>,
Jacob Keller <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>,
Kory Maincent <kory.maincent@bootlin.com>,
bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 2/9] phy: add hwtstamp_get callback to phy drivers
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2025 17:56:34 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aRth0lfz4QMC8F6s@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <59d08292-6f38-4784-b12b-520fd24600a7@linux.dev>
On Mon, Nov 17, 2025 at 05:39:13PM +0000, Vadim Fedorenko wrote:
> On 13/11/2025 12:24, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 13, 2025 at 12:12:44PM +0000, Vadim Fedorenko wrote:
> > > On 13/11/2025 12:02, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Nov 13, 2025 at 11:32:00AM +0000, Vadim Fedorenko wrote:
> > > > > PHY devices had lack of hwtstamp_get callback even though most of them
> > > > > are tracking configuration info. Introduce new call back to
> > > > > mii_timestamper.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Vadim Fedorenko <vadim.fedorenko@linux.dev>
> > > >
> > > > As part of my Marvell PTP work, I have a similar patch, but it's
> > > > way simpler. Is this not sufficient?
> > > >
> > > > __phy_hwtstamp_get() is called via phylib_stubs struct and
> > > > phy_hwtstamp_get(), dev_get_hwtstamp_phylib(), dev_get_hwtstamp(),
> > > > and dev_ifsioc().
> > > >
> > > > Using the phylib ioctl handler means we're implementing a path that
> > > > is already marked as legacy - see dev_get_hwtstamp():
> > > >
> > > > if (!ops->ndo_hwtstamp_get)
> > > > return dev_eth_ioctl(dev, ifr, SIOCGHWTSTAMP); /* legacy */
> > > >
> > > > So, I think the below would be the preferred implementation.
> > >
> > > You mean do not add SIOCGHWTSTAMP case in phy_mii_ioctl() as we should
> > > never reach this legacy option?
> >
> > We _can_ reach phy_mii_ioctl() for SIOCGHWTSTAMP where drivers do not
> > provide the ndo_hwtstamp_get() method. However, as this is legacy code,
> > the question is: should we add it?
> >
> > > Technically, some drivers are (yet) not
> > > converted to ndo_hwtstamp callbacks and this part can potentially work
> > > for bnx2x driver, until the other series lands.
> >
> > Right, but providing new features to legacy paths gives less reason for
> > people to stop using the legacy paths.
> >
> > > I was planning to remove SIOCSHWTSTAMP/SIOCGHWTSTAMP dev_eth_ioctl calls
> > > later once everything has landed and we have tests confirming that ioctl
> > > and netlink interfaces work exactly the same way.
> >
> > However, implementations that do populate non-legacy ndo_hwtstamp_get()
> > won't work correctly with your conversion, since we'll fall through to
> > the path which calls __phy_hwtstamp_get() which won't do anything.
> >
> > So I disagree with your patch - it only adds support for legacy net
> > drivers to get the hwtstamp settings from the PHY. Non-legacy won't be
> > supported.
> >
> > At minimum, we should be adding support for non-legacy, and _possibly_
> > legacy.
> >
> > Let's wait for others to comment on my point about adding this for the
> > legacy drivers/code path.
> As there was no conversation for a couple of days, and Andrew expressed
> the same thought about not going to implement SIOCGHWTSTAMP, I'm going
> to publish new version with this part removed.
Let's see the code, because I stopped engaging with you because I
couldn't understand what you were saying.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-17 17:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-13 11:31 [PATCH net-next v2 0/9] add hwtstamp_get callback to phy drivers Vadim Fedorenko
2025-11-13 11:31 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/9] phy: rename hwtstamp callback to hwtstamp_set Vadim Fedorenko
2025-11-13 13:31 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-11-13 11:32 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/9] phy: add hwtstamp_get callback to phy drivers Vadim Fedorenko
2025-11-13 12:02 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-13 12:12 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2025-11-13 12:24 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-17 17:39 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2025-11-17 17:56 ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2025-11-13 13:36 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-11-13 16:48 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2025-11-13 16:57 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-13 17:05 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2025-11-13 17:15 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-13 18:03 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2025-11-13 11:32 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/9] net: phy: broadcom: add HW timestamp configuration reporting Vadim Fedorenko
2025-11-13 11:32 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/9] net: phy: dp83640: " Vadim Fedorenko
2025-11-13 11:32 ` [PATCH net-next v2 5/9] net: phy: micrel: " Vadim Fedorenko
2025-11-13 11:32 ` [PATCH net-next v2 6/9] net: phy: microchip_rds_ptp: " Vadim Fedorenko
2025-11-13 11:32 ` [PATCH net-next v2 7/9] phy: mscc: " Vadim Fedorenko
2025-11-13 11:32 ` [PATCH net-next v2 8/9] net: phy: nxp-c45-tja11xx: " Vadim Fedorenko
2025-11-13 11:32 ` [PATCH net-next v2 9/9] ptp: ptp_ines: " Vadim Fedorenko
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