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From: Daniel Golle <daniel@makrotopia.org>
To: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-phy@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	"Horatiu Vultur" <horatiu.vultur@microchip.com>,
	"Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"Heiner Kallweit" <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	"Russell King" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Vinod Koul" <vkoul@kernel.org>,
	"Kishon Vijay Abraham I" <kishon@kernel.org>,
	"Matthias Brugger" <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	"AngeloGioacchino Del Regno"
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	"Eric Woudstra" <ericwouds@gmail.com>,
	"Marek Behún" <kabel@kernel.org>, "Lee Jones" <lee@kernel.org>,
	"Patrice Chotard" <patrice.chotard@foss.st.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/9] XPCS polarity inversion via generic device tree properties
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2025 14:36:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aSW--slbJWpXK0nv@makrotopia.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251122193341.332324-1-vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>

On Sat, Nov 22, 2025 at 09:33:32PM +0200, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> Polarity inversion (described in patch 3/6) is a feature with at least 3
> potential new users waiting for a generic description:
> - Horatiu Vultur with the lan966x SerDes
> - Daniel Golle with the MaxLinear GSW1xx switches
> - Me with a custom SJA1105 board, switch which uses the DesignWare XPCS
> 
> I became interested in exploring the problem space because I was averse
> to the idea of adding vendor-specific device tree properties to describe
> a common need.

Thank you for coming up with a good solution, and even generalizing
this beyond networking scope :)

> 
> This set contains an implementation of a generic feature that should
> cater to all known needs that were identified during my documentation
> phase. I've added a new user - the XPCS - and I've converted an existing
> user - the EN8811H Ethernet PHY.
> 
> I haven't converted the rest due to various reasons:
> - "mediatek,pnswap" is defined bidirectionally and the underlying
>   SGMII_PN_SWAP_TX_RX register field doesn't make it clear which bit is
>   RX and which is TX. Needs more work and expert knowledge from maintainer.

Just to quickly answer to that one from MediaTek's SDK[1]:
#define SGMII_PN_SWAP_RX               BIT(1)
#define SGMII_PN_SWAP_TX               BIT(0)

So MediaTek LynxI is ready to be supported via the standard properties
you are suggesting.

[1]: https://git01.mediatek.com/plugins/gitiles/openwrt/feeds/mtk-openwrt-feeds/+/5cecec123e1ab4c7f4eabd5630e8e8b2e89b9cf0/autobuild/unified/filogic/master/files/target/linux/mediatek/patches-6.6/999-2607-net-pcs-mtk-lynxi-add-individual-polarity-control.patch


> - "st,px_rx_pol_inv" - its binding is a .txt file and I don't have time
>   for such a large detour to convert it to dtschema.
> - "st,pcie-tx-pol-inv" and "st,sata-tx-pol-inv" - these are defined in a
>   .txt schema but are not implemented in any driver. My verdict would be
>   "delete the properties" but again, I would prefer not introducing such
>   dependency to this series.
> 
> Vladimir Oltean (9):
>   dt-bindings: phy: rename transmit-amplitude.yaml to
>     phy-common-props.yaml
>   dt-bindings: phy-common-props: create a reusable "protocol-names"
>     definition
>   dt-bindings: phy-common-props: RX and TX lane polarity inversion
>   dt-bindings: net: xpcs: allow properties from phy-common-props.yaml
>   phy: add phy_get_rx_polarity() and phy_get_tx_polarity()
>   net: pcs: xpcs: promote SJA1105 TX polarity inversion to core
>   net: pcs: xpcs: allow lane polarity inversion
>   net: phy: air_en8811h: deprecate "airoha,pnswap-rx" and
>     "airoha,pnswap-tx"
>   dt-bindings: net: airoha,en8811h: deprecate "airoha,pnswap-rx" and
>     "airoha,pnswap-tx"
> 
>  .../bindings/net/airoha,en8811h.yaml          |  11 +-
>  .../bindings/net/pcs/snps,dw-xpcs.yaml        |   5 +-
>  .../bindings/phy/phy-common-props.yaml        | 152 ++++++++++++++++++
>  .../bindings/phy/transmit-amplitude.yaml      | 103 ------------
>  MAINTAINERS                                   |  21 +++
>  drivers/net/pcs/Kconfig                       |   1 +
>  drivers/net/pcs/pcs-xpcs-nxp.c                |  11 --
>  drivers/net/pcs/pcs-xpcs.c                    |  58 ++++++-
>  drivers/net/pcs/pcs-xpcs.h                    |   2 +-
>  drivers/net/phy/Kconfig                       |   1 +
>  drivers/net/phy/air_en8811h.c                 |  50 ++++--
>  drivers/phy/Kconfig                           |   9 ++
>  drivers/phy/Makefile                          |   1 +
>  drivers/phy/phy-common-props.c                | 117 ++++++++++++++
>  include/dt-bindings/phy/phy.h                 |   4 +
>  include/linux/phy/phy-common-props.h          |  20 +++
>  16 files changed, 426 insertions(+), 140 deletions(-)
>  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/phy/phy-common-props.yaml
>  delete mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/phy/transmit-amplitude.yaml
>  create mode 100644 drivers/phy/phy-common-props.c
>  create mode 100644 include/linux/phy/phy-common-props.h
> 
> -- 
> 2.34.1
> 


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Daniel Golle <daniel@makrotopia.org>
To: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-phy@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	"Horatiu Vultur" <horatiu.vultur@microchip.com>,
	"Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"Heiner Kallweit" <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	"Russell King" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Vinod Koul" <vkoul@kernel.org>,
	"Kishon Vijay Abraham I" <kishon@kernel.org>,
	"Matthias Brugger" <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	"AngeloGioacchino Del Regno"
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	"Eric Woudstra" <ericwouds@gmail.com>,
	"Marek Behún" <kabel@kernel.org>, "Lee Jones" <lee@kernel.org>,
	"Patrice Chotard" <patrice.chotard@foss.st.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/9] XPCS polarity inversion via generic device tree properties
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2025 14:36:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aSW--slbJWpXK0nv@makrotopia.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251122193341.332324-1-vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>

On Sat, Nov 22, 2025 at 09:33:32PM +0200, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> Polarity inversion (described in patch 3/6) is a feature with at least 3
> potential new users waiting for a generic description:
> - Horatiu Vultur with the lan966x SerDes
> - Daniel Golle with the MaxLinear GSW1xx switches
> - Me with a custom SJA1105 board, switch which uses the DesignWare XPCS
> 
> I became interested in exploring the problem space because I was averse
> to the idea of adding vendor-specific device tree properties to describe
> a common need.

Thank you for coming up with a good solution, and even generalizing
this beyond networking scope :)

> 
> This set contains an implementation of a generic feature that should
> cater to all known needs that were identified during my documentation
> phase. I've added a new user - the XPCS - and I've converted an existing
> user - the EN8811H Ethernet PHY.
> 
> I haven't converted the rest due to various reasons:
> - "mediatek,pnswap" is defined bidirectionally and the underlying
>   SGMII_PN_SWAP_TX_RX register field doesn't make it clear which bit is
>   RX and which is TX. Needs more work and expert knowledge from maintainer.

Just to quickly answer to that one from MediaTek's SDK[1]:
#define SGMII_PN_SWAP_RX               BIT(1)
#define SGMII_PN_SWAP_TX               BIT(0)

So MediaTek LynxI is ready to be supported via the standard properties
you are suggesting.

[1]: https://git01.mediatek.com/plugins/gitiles/openwrt/feeds/mtk-openwrt-feeds/+/5cecec123e1ab4c7f4eabd5630e8e8b2e89b9cf0/autobuild/unified/filogic/master/files/target/linux/mediatek/patches-6.6/999-2607-net-pcs-mtk-lynxi-add-individual-polarity-control.patch


> - "st,px_rx_pol_inv" - its binding is a .txt file and I don't have time
>   for such a large detour to convert it to dtschema.
> - "st,pcie-tx-pol-inv" and "st,sata-tx-pol-inv" - these are defined in a
>   .txt schema but are not implemented in any driver. My verdict would be
>   "delete the properties" but again, I would prefer not introducing such
>   dependency to this series.
> 
> Vladimir Oltean (9):
>   dt-bindings: phy: rename transmit-amplitude.yaml to
>     phy-common-props.yaml
>   dt-bindings: phy-common-props: create a reusable "protocol-names"
>     definition
>   dt-bindings: phy-common-props: RX and TX lane polarity inversion
>   dt-bindings: net: xpcs: allow properties from phy-common-props.yaml
>   phy: add phy_get_rx_polarity() and phy_get_tx_polarity()
>   net: pcs: xpcs: promote SJA1105 TX polarity inversion to core
>   net: pcs: xpcs: allow lane polarity inversion
>   net: phy: air_en8811h: deprecate "airoha,pnswap-rx" and
>     "airoha,pnswap-tx"
>   dt-bindings: net: airoha,en8811h: deprecate "airoha,pnswap-rx" and
>     "airoha,pnswap-tx"
> 
>  .../bindings/net/airoha,en8811h.yaml          |  11 +-
>  .../bindings/net/pcs/snps,dw-xpcs.yaml        |   5 +-
>  .../bindings/phy/phy-common-props.yaml        | 152 ++++++++++++++++++
>  .../bindings/phy/transmit-amplitude.yaml      | 103 ------------
>  MAINTAINERS                                   |  21 +++
>  drivers/net/pcs/Kconfig                       |   1 +
>  drivers/net/pcs/pcs-xpcs-nxp.c                |  11 --
>  drivers/net/pcs/pcs-xpcs.c                    |  58 ++++++-
>  drivers/net/pcs/pcs-xpcs.h                    |   2 +-
>  drivers/net/phy/Kconfig                       |   1 +
>  drivers/net/phy/air_en8811h.c                 |  50 ++++--
>  drivers/phy/Kconfig                           |   9 ++
>  drivers/phy/Makefile                          |   1 +
>  drivers/phy/phy-common-props.c                | 117 ++++++++++++++
>  include/dt-bindings/phy/phy.h                 |   4 +
>  include/linux/phy/phy-common-props.h          |  20 +++
>  16 files changed, 426 insertions(+), 140 deletions(-)
>  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/phy/phy-common-props.yaml
>  delete mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/phy/transmit-amplitude.yaml
>  create mode 100644 drivers/phy/phy-common-props.c
>  create mode 100644 include/linux/phy/phy-common-props.h
> 
> -- 
> 2.34.1
> 

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Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-22 19:33 [PATCH net-next 0/9] XPCS polarity inversion via generic device tree properties Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-22 19:33 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-22 19:33 ` [PATCH net-next 1/9] dt-bindings: phy: rename transmit-amplitude.yaml to phy-common-props.yaml Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-22 19:33   ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-25 21:19   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-11-25 21:19     ` Andrew Lunn
2025-11-25 21:44     ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-25 21:44       ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-25 22:33       ` Andrew Lunn
2025-11-25 22:33         ` Andrew Lunn
2025-11-26  7:26         ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-26  7:26           ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-26  9:32           ` Holger Brunck
2025-11-26  9:32             ` Holger Brunck
2025-11-26 10:33             ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-26 10:33               ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-26 10:45               ` Holger Brunck
2025-11-26 10:45                 ` Holger Brunck
2025-11-26 10:51                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-26 10:51                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-26 13:05                   ` Holger Brunck
2025-11-26 13:05                     ` Holger Brunck
2025-11-26 14:09           ` Andrew Lunn
2025-11-26 14:09             ` Andrew Lunn
2025-11-26 14:25           ` Maxime Chevallier
2025-11-26 14:25             ` Maxime Chevallier
2025-12-04 16:11   ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-12-04 16:11     ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-11-22 19:33 ` [PATCH net-next 2/9] dt-bindings: phy-common-props: create a reusable "protocol-names" definition Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-22 19:33   ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-12-04 15:52   ` Rob Herring
2025-12-04 15:52     ` Rob Herring
2025-12-04 16:11     ` Rob Herring
2025-12-04 16:11       ` Rob Herring
2025-11-22 19:33 ` [PATCH net-next 3/9] dt-bindings: phy-common-props: RX and TX lane polarity inversion Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-22 19:33   ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-12-04 16:13   ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-12-04 16:13     ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-11-22 19:33 ` [PATCH net-next 4/9] dt-bindings: net: xpcs: allow properties from phy-common-props.yaml Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-22 19:33   ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-12-04 16:13   ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-12-04 16:13     ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-11-22 19:33 ` [PATCH net-next 5/9] phy: add phy_get_rx_polarity() and phy_get_tx_polarity() Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-22 19:33   ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-25  4:01   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-25  4:01     ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-25 17:02     ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-25 17:02       ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-12-01  8:37     ` Vinod Koul
2025-12-01  8:37       ` Vinod Koul
2025-12-01  8:41       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-12-01  8:41         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-12-04 15:34         ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-12-04 15:34           ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-12-04 16:48           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-12-04 16:48             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-12-01 19:03       ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-12-01 19:03         ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-22 19:33 ` [PATCH net-next 6/9] net: pcs: xpcs: promote SJA1105 TX polarity inversion to core Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-22 19:33   ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-22 19:33 ` [PATCH net-next 7/9] net: pcs: xpcs: allow lane polarity inversion Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-22 19:33   ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-26 15:17   ` kernel test robot
2025-11-26 15:17     ` kernel test robot
2025-11-22 19:33 ` [PATCH net-next 8/9] net: phy: air_en8811h: deprecate "airoha,pnswap-rx" and "airoha,pnswap-tx" Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-22 19:33   ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-22 19:33 ` [PATCH net-next 9/9] dt-bindings: net: airoha,en8811h: " Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-22 19:33   ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-12-04 16:13   ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-12-04 16:13     ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-11-25 14:36 ` Daniel Golle [this message]
2025-11-25 14:36   ` [PATCH net-next 0/9] XPCS polarity inversion via generic device tree properties Daniel Golle
2025-12-27 16:12 ` Bjørn Mork
2025-12-27 16:12   ` Bjørn Mork

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