* [PATCH v2] INSTALL: remove unsupported XEN_CONFIG_EXPERT from documentation
@ 2026-01-16 3:08 dmukhin
2026-01-16 7:04 ` Jan Beulich
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: dmukhin @ 2026-01-16 3:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: xen-devel
Cc: andrew.cooper3, anthony.perard, jbeulich, julien, michal.orzel,
roger.pau, sstabellini, dmukhin
From: Denis Mukhin <dmukhin@ford.com>
Amends: 37339ba9ef46 ("automation: Remove XEN_CONFIG_EXPERT leftovers")
Signed-off-by: Denis Mukhin <dmukhin@ford.com>
---
Changes since v1:
- rephrased a note about EXPERT features
- Link to v1: https://lore.kernel.org/xen-devel/20260108141641.506534-2-dmukhin@ford.com/
---
INSTALL | 10 +++++-----
1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
diff --git a/INSTALL b/INSTALL
index c2e756bf4b2b..919e1c04891b 100644
--- a/INSTALL
+++ b/INSTALL
@@ -33,11 +33,11 @@ small subset of the options. Attempts to change other options will be
silently overridden. The only way to find which configuration options
are available is to run `make menuconfig' or the like.
-You can counter-override this behaviour by setting XEN_CONFIG_EXPERT=y
-in your environment. However, doing this is not supported and the
-resulting configurations do not receive security support. If you set
-this variable there is nothing stopping you setting dangerously
-experimental combinations of features - not even any warnings.
+This behavior can be overridden by enabling "Configure EXPERT features"
+in Kconfig (CONFIG_EXPERT). However, resulting configurations do not
+receive security support. In addition, CONFIG_EXPERT permits the
+selection of experimental and potentially unsafe feature combinations
+without generating configuration warnings.
Options recognized by configure
===============================
--
2.52.0
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* Re: [PATCH v2] INSTALL: remove unsupported XEN_CONFIG_EXPERT from documentation
2026-01-16 3:08 [PATCH v2] INSTALL: remove unsupported XEN_CONFIG_EXPERT from documentation dmukhin
@ 2026-01-16 7:04 ` Jan Beulich
2026-01-16 20:47 ` Stefano Stabellini
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Jan Beulich @ 2026-01-16 7:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: dmukhin
Cc: andrew.cooper3, anthony.perard, julien, michal.orzel, roger.pau,
sstabellini, dmukhin, xen-devel
On 16.01.2026 04:08, dmukhin@xen.org wrote:
> --- a/INSTALL
> +++ b/INSTALL
> @@ -33,11 +33,11 @@ small subset of the options. Attempts to change other options will be
> silently overridden. The only way to find which configuration options
> are available is to run `make menuconfig' or the like.
I fear this earlier paragraph needs editing as well, which will then
make more clear that ...
> -You can counter-override this behaviour by setting XEN_CONFIG_EXPERT=y
> -in your environment. However, doing this is not supported and the
> -resulting configurations do not receive security support. If you set
> -this variable there is nothing stopping you setting dangerously
> -experimental combinations of features - not even any warnings.
> +This behavior can be overridden by enabling "Configure EXPERT features"
> +in Kconfig (CONFIG_EXPERT).
... this may not be quite adequate.
Jan
> However, resulting configurations do not
> +receive security support. In addition, CONFIG_EXPERT permits the
> +selection of experimental and potentially unsafe feature combinations
> +without generating configuration warnings.
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* Re: [PATCH v2] INSTALL: remove unsupported XEN_CONFIG_EXPERT from documentation
2026-01-16 7:04 ` Jan Beulich
@ 2026-01-16 20:47 ` Stefano Stabellini
2026-01-19 7:29 ` Jan Beulich
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Stefano Stabellini @ 2026-01-16 20:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jan Beulich
Cc: dmukhin, andrew.cooper3, anthony.perard, julien, michal.orzel,
roger.pau, sstabellini, dmukhin, xen-devel
On Fri, 16 Jan 2026, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 16.01.2026 04:08, dmukhin@xen.org wrote:
> > --- a/INSTALL
> > +++ b/INSTALL
> > @@ -33,11 +33,11 @@ small subset of the options. Attempts to change other options will be
> > silently overridden. The only way to find which configuration options
> > are available is to run `make menuconfig' or the like.
>
> I fear this earlier paragraph needs editing as well, which will then
> make more clear that ...
>
> > -You can counter-override this behaviour by setting XEN_CONFIG_EXPERT=y
> > -in your environment. However, doing this is not supported and the
> > -resulting configurations do not receive security support. If you set
> > -this variable there is nothing stopping you setting dangerously
> > -experimental combinations of features - not even any warnings.
> > +This behavior can be overridden by enabling "Configure EXPERT features"
> > +in Kconfig (CONFIG_EXPERT).
>
> ... this may not be quite adequate.
>
I am not sure how you would like to change the earlier paragraph or this
paragraph. I gave it a try and removed both paragraphs, replacing it
with this:
"""
Only a subset of options is supported or security-supported by Xen
Project. You can explore all available options, including unsupported
ones and those recommended only for expert users, by using `make
menuconfig` and enabling `CONFIG_UNSUPPORTED` and/or `CONFIG_EXPERT`.
However, enabling these options is not supported, and configurations
resulting from them do not receive security support.
"""
What do you think?
> > However, resulting configurations do not
> > +receive security support. In addition, CONFIG_EXPERT permits the
> > +selection of experimental and potentially unsafe feature combinations
> > +without generating configuration warnings.
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* Re: [PATCH v2] INSTALL: remove unsupported XEN_CONFIG_EXPERT from documentation
2026-01-16 20:47 ` Stefano Stabellini
@ 2026-01-19 7:29 ` Jan Beulich
2026-01-20 7:10 ` dmukhin
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Jan Beulich @ 2026-01-19 7:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefano Stabellini
Cc: dmukhin, andrew.cooper3, anthony.perard, julien, michal.orzel,
roger.pau, dmukhin, xen-devel
On 16.01.2026 21:47, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Jan 2026, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> On 16.01.2026 04:08, dmukhin@xen.org wrote:
>>> --- a/INSTALL
>>> +++ b/INSTALL
>>> @@ -33,11 +33,11 @@ small subset of the options. Attempts to change other options will be
>>> silently overridden. The only way to find which configuration options
>>> are available is to run `make menuconfig' or the like.
>>
>> I fear this earlier paragraph needs editing as well, which will then
>> make more clear that ...
>>
>>> -You can counter-override this behaviour by setting XEN_CONFIG_EXPERT=y
>>> -in your environment. However, doing this is not supported and the
>>> -resulting configurations do not receive security support. If you set
>>> -this variable there is nothing stopping you setting dangerously
>>> -experimental combinations of features - not even any warnings.
>>> +This behavior can be overridden by enabling "Configure EXPERT features"
>>> +in Kconfig (CONFIG_EXPERT).
>>
>> ... this may not be quite adequate.
>>
>
> I am not sure how you would like to change the earlier paragraph or this
> paragraph. I gave it a try and removed both paragraphs, replacing it
> with this:
>
> """
> Only a subset of options is supported or security-supported by Xen
> Project. You can explore all available options, including unsupported
> ones and those recommended only for expert users, by using `make
> menuconfig` and enabling `CONFIG_UNSUPPORTED` and/or `CONFIG_EXPERT`.
> However, enabling these options is not supported, and configurations
> resulting from them do not receive security support.
> """
>
> What do you think?
This would be fine with me.
Jan
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* Re: [PATCH v2] INSTALL: remove unsupported XEN_CONFIG_EXPERT from documentation
2026-01-19 7:29 ` Jan Beulich
@ 2026-01-20 7:10 ` dmukhin
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: dmukhin @ 2026-01-20 7:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jan Beulich
Cc: Stefano Stabellini, andrew.cooper3, anthony.perard, julien,
michal.orzel, roger.pau, dmukhin, xen-devel
On Mon, Jan 19, 2026 at 08:29:58AM +0100, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 16.01.2026 21:47, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> > On Fri, 16 Jan 2026, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >> On 16.01.2026 04:08, dmukhin@xen.org wrote:
> >>> --- a/INSTALL
> >>> +++ b/INSTALL
> >>> @@ -33,11 +33,11 @@ small subset of the options. Attempts to change other options will be
> >>> silently overridden. The only way to find which configuration options
> >>> are available is to run `make menuconfig' or the like.
> >>
> >> I fear this earlier paragraph needs editing as well, which will then
> >> make more clear that ...
> >>
> >>> -You can counter-override this behaviour by setting XEN_CONFIG_EXPERT=y
> >>> -in your environment. However, doing this is not supported and the
> >>> -resulting configurations do not receive security support. If you set
> >>> -this variable there is nothing stopping you setting dangerously
> >>> -experimental combinations of features - not even any warnings.
> >>> +This behavior can be overridden by enabling "Configure EXPERT features"
> >>> +in Kconfig (CONFIG_EXPERT).
> >>
> >> ... this may not be quite adequate.
> >>
> >
> > I am not sure how you would like to change the earlier paragraph or this
> > paragraph. I gave it a try and removed both paragraphs, replacing it
> > with this:
> >
> > """
> > Only a subset of options is supported or security-supported by Xen
> > Project. You can explore all available options, including unsupported
> > ones and those recommended only for expert users, by using `make
> > menuconfig` and enabling `CONFIG_UNSUPPORTED` and/or `CONFIG_EXPERT`.
> > However, enabling these options is not supported, and configurations
> > resulting from them do not receive security support.
> > """
> >
> > What do you think?
>
> This would be fine with me.
Thanks Stefano and Jan.
I will send an update shortly.
--
Denis
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