* [PATCH v2 0/3] xen/mm: limit in-place scrubbing
@ 2026-01-15 11:18 Roger Pau Monne
2026-01-15 11:18 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] xen/mm: enforce SCRUB_DEBUG checks for MEMF_no_scrub allocations Roger Pau Monne
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From: Roger Pau Monne @ 2026-01-15 11:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: xen-devel
Cc: Roger Pau Monne, Andrew Cooper, Anthony PERARD, Michal Orzel,
Jan Beulich, Julien Grall, Stefano Stabellini
Hello,
In XenServer we have seen the watchdog occasionally triggering during
domain creation if 1GB pages are scrubbed in-place during physmap
population. The following series attempt to mitigate this by adding
preemption to page scrubbing in populate_physmap(). Also a new limit
and command line option to signal the maximum allocation order when
doing in-place scrubbing. This is set by default to
CONFIG_DOMU_MAX_ORDER.
Thanks, Roger.
Roger Pau Monne (3):
xen/mm: enforce SCRUB_DEBUG checks for MEMF_no_scrub allocations
xen/mm: allow deferred scrub of physmap populate allocated pages
xen/mm: limit non-scrubbed allocations to a specific order
docs/misc/xen-command-line.pandoc | 9 +++
xen/common/domain.c | 17 +++++
xen/common/memory.c | 105 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
xen/common/page_alloc.c | 30 +++++++--
xen/include/xen/mm.h | 1 +
xen/include/xen/sched.h | 5 ++
6 files changed, 161 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
--
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From: Roger Pau Monne @ 2026-01-15 11:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: xen-devel
Cc: Roger Pau Monne, Andrew Cooper, Anthony PERARD, Michal Orzel,
Jan Beulich, Julien Grall, Stefano Stabellini
The logic in alloc_heap_pages() only checks for scrubbing pattern
correctness when the caller doesn't pass MEMF_no_scrub in memflags.
However already scrubbed pages can be checked for correctness, regardless
of the caller having requested MEMF_no_scrub.
Relax the checking around the check_one_page() call, to allow for calls
with MEMF_no_scrub to also check the correctness of pages marked as already
scrubbed when allocated. This widens the checking of scrubbing
correctness, so it would also check the scrubbing correctness of
MEMF_no_scrub allocations.
Signed-off-by: Roger Pau Monné <roger.pau@citrix.com>
---
After discussing with Jan I've deliberately omitted the tag:
Fixes: 0c5f2f9cefac ("mm: Make sure pages are scrubbed")
The intended approach might have been to ensure the caller of
alloc_heap_pages() gets properly scrubbed pages, rather than asserting the
internal state of free pages is as expected.
---
xen/common/page_alloc.c | 5 ++---
1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
diff --git a/xen/common/page_alloc.c b/xen/common/page_alloc.c
index 2efc11ce095f..de1480316f05 100644
--- a/xen/common/page_alloc.c
+++ b/xen/common/page_alloc.c
@@ -1105,8 +1105,7 @@ static struct page_info *alloc_heap_pages(
spin_unlock(&heap_lock);
- if ( first_dirty != INVALID_DIRTY_IDX ||
- (scrub_debug && !(memflags & MEMF_no_scrub)) )
+ if ( first_dirty != INVALID_DIRTY_IDX || scrub_debug )
{
bool cold = d && d != current->domain;
@@ -1119,7 +1118,7 @@ static struct page_info *alloc_heap_pages(
dirty_cnt++;
}
- else if ( !(memflags & MEMF_no_scrub) )
+ else
check_one_page(&pg[i]);
}
--
2.51.0
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* [PATCH v2 2/3] xen/mm: allow deferred scrub of physmap populate allocated pages
2026-01-15 11:18 [PATCH v2 0/3] xen/mm: limit in-place scrubbing Roger Pau Monne
2026-01-15 11:18 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] xen/mm: enforce SCRUB_DEBUG checks for MEMF_no_scrub allocations Roger Pau Monne
@ 2026-01-15 11:18 ` Roger Pau Monne
2026-01-19 13:00 ` Jan Beulich
2026-01-15 11:18 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] xen/mm: limit non-scrubbed allocations to a specific order Roger Pau Monne
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From: Roger Pau Monne @ 2026-01-15 11:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: xen-devel
Cc: Roger Pau Monne, Andrew Cooper, Anthony PERARD, Michal Orzel,
Jan Beulich, Julien Grall, Stefano Stabellini
Physmap population has the need to use pages as big as possible to reduce
p2m shattering. However that triggers issues when big enough pages are not
yet scrubbed, and so scrubbing must be done at allocation time. On some
scenarios with added contention the watchdog can trigger:
Watchdog timer detects that CPU55 is stuck!
----[ Xen-4.17.5-21 x86_64 debug=n Not tainted ]----
CPU: 55
RIP: e008:[<ffff82d040204c4a>] clear_page_sse2+0x1a/0x30
RFLAGS: 0000000000000202 CONTEXT: hypervisor (d0v12)
[...]
Xen call trace:
[<ffff82d040204c4a>] R clear_page_sse2+0x1a/0x30
[<ffff82d04022a121>] S clear_domain_page+0x11/0x20
[<ffff82d04022c170>] S common/page_alloc.c#alloc_heap_pages+0x400/0x5a0
[<ffff82d04022d4a7>] S alloc_domheap_pages+0x67/0x180
[<ffff82d040226f9f>] S common/memory.c#populate_physmap+0x22f/0x3b0
[<ffff82d040228ec8>] S do_memory_op+0x728/0x1970
Introduce a mechanism to preempt page scrubbing in populate_physmap(). It
relies on stashing the dirty page in the domain struct temporarily to
preempt to guest context, so the scrubbing can resume when the domain
re-enters the hypercall. The added deferral mechanism will only be used for
domain construction, and is designed to be used with a single threaded
domain builder. If the toolstack makes concurrent calls to
XENMEM_populate_physmap for the same target domain it will trash stashed
pages, resulting in slow domain physmap population.
Note a similar issue is present in increase reservation. However that
hypercall is likely to only be used once the domain is already running and
the known implementations use 4K pages. It will be deal with in a separate
patch using a different approach, that will also take care of the
allocation in populate_physmap() once the domain is running.
Fixes: 74d2e11ccfd2 ("mm: Scrub pages in alloc_heap_pages() if needed")
Signed-off-by: Roger Pau Monné <roger.pau@citrix.com>
---
Changes since v1:
- New in this version, different approach than v1.
---
xen/common/domain.c | 17 +++++++
xen/common/memory.c | 105 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
xen/common/page_alloc.c | 2 +-
xen/include/xen/mm.h | 1 +
xen/include/xen/sched.h | 5 ++
5 files changed, 128 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
diff --git a/xen/common/domain.c b/xen/common/domain.c
index 376351b528c9..5bbbc7e1aada 100644
--- a/xen/common/domain.c
+++ b/xen/common/domain.c
@@ -722,6 +722,15 @@ static void _domain_destroy(struct domain *d)
XVFREE(d->console);
+ if ( d->pending_scrub )
+ {
+ BUG_ON(d->creation_finished);
+ free_domheap_pages(d->pending_scrub, d->pending_scrub_order);
+ d->pending_scrub = NULL;
+ d->pending_scrub_order = 0;
+ d->pending_scrub_index = 0;
+ }
+
argo_destroy(d);
rangeset_domain_destroy(d);
@@ -1678,6 +1687,14 @@ int domain_unpause_by_systemcontroller(struct domain *d)
*/
if ( new == 0 && !d->creation_finished )
{
+ if ( d->pending_scrub )
+ {
+ printk(XENLOG_ERR
+ "%pd: cannot be started with pending dirty pages, destroying\n",
+ d);
+ domain_crash(d);
+ return -EBUSY;
+ }
d->creation_finished = true;
arch_domain_creation_finished(d);
}
diff --git a/xen/common/memory.c b/xen/common/memory.c
index 10becf7c1f4c..4ad2cc6428d5 100644
--- a/xen/common/memory.c
+++ b/xen/common/memory.c
@@ -159,6 +159,74 @@ static void increase_reservation(struct memop_args *a)
a->nr_done = i;
}
+/*
+ * Temporary storage for a domain assigned page that's not been fully scrubbed.
+ * Stored pages must be domheap ones.
+ *
+ * The stashed page can be freed at any time by Xen, the caller must pass the
+ * order and NUMA node requirement to the fetch function to ensure the
+ * currently stashed page matches it's requirements.
+ */
+static void stash_allocation(struct domain *d, struct page_info *page,
+ unsigned int order, unsigned int scrub_index)
+{
+ BUG_ON(d->creation_finished);
+
+ rspin_lock(&d->page_alloc_lock);
+
+ /*
+ * Drop any stashed allocation to accommodated the current one. This
+ * interface is designed to be used for single-threaded domain creation.
+ */
+ if ( d->pending_scrub )
+ free_domheap_pages(d->pending_scrub, d->pending_scrub_order);
+
+ d->pending_scrub_index = scrub_index;
+ d->pending_scrub_order = order;
+ d->pending_scrub = page;
+
+ rspin_unlock(&d->page_alloc_lock);
+}
+
+static struct page_info *get_stashed_allocation(struct domain *d,
+ unsigned int order,
+ nodeid_t node,
+ unsigned int *scrub_index)
+{
+ struct page_info *page = NULL;
+
+ BUG_ON(d->creation_finished && d->pending_scrub);
+
+ rspin_lock(&d->page_alloc_lock);
+
+ /*
+ * If there's a pending page to scrub check it satisfies the current
+ * request. If it doesn't keep it stashed and return NULL.
+ */
+ if ( !d->pending_scrub || d->pending_scrub_order != order ||
+ (node != NUMA_NO_NODE && node != page_to_nid(d->pending_scrub)) )
+ goto done;
+ else
+ {
+ page = d->pending_scrub;
+ *scrub_index = d->pending_scrub_index;
+ }
+
+ /*
+ * The caller now owns the page, clear stashed information. Prevent
+ * concurrent usages of get_stashed_allocation() from returning the same
+ * page to different contexts.
+ */
+ d->pending_scrub_index = 0;
+ d->pending_scrub_order = 0;
+ d->pending_scrub = NULL;
+
+ done:
+ rspin_unlock(&d->page_alloc_lock);
+
+ return page;
+}
+
static void populate_physmap(struct memop_args *a)
{
struct page_info *page;
@@ -275,7 +343,18 @@ static void populate_physmap(struct memop_args *a)
}
else
{
- page = alloc_domheap_pages(d, a->extent_order, a->memflags);
+ unsigned int scrub_start = 0;
+ nodeid_t node =
+ (a->memflags & MEMF_exact_node) ? MEMF_get_node(a->memflags)
+ : NUMA_NO_NODE;
+
+ page = get_stashed_allocation(d, a->extent_order, node,
+ &scrub_start);
+
+ if ( !page )
+ page = alloc_domheap_pages(d, a->extent_order,
+ a->memflags | (d->creation_finished ? 0
+ : MEMF_no_scrub));
if ( unlikely(!page) )
{
@@ -286,6 +365,30 @@ static void populate_physmap(struct memop_args *a)
goto out;
}
+ if ( !d->creation_finished )
+ {
+ unsigned int dirty_cnt = 0, j;
+
+ /* Check if there's anything to scrub. */
+ for ( j = scrub_start; j < (1U << a->extent_order); j++ )
+ {
+ if ( !test_and_clear_bit(_PGC_need_scrub,
+ &page[j].count_info) )
+ continue;
+
+ scrub_one_page(&page[j], true);
+
+ if ( (j + 1) != (1U << a->extent_order) &&
+ !(++dirty_cnt & 0xff) &&
+ hypercall_preempt_check() )
+ {
+ a->preempted = 1;
+ stash_allocation(d, page, a->extent_order, ++j);
+ goto out;
+ }
+ }
+ }
+
if ( unlikely(a->memflags & MEMF_no_tlbflush) )
{
for ( j = 0; j < (1U << a->extent_order); j++ )
diff --git a/xen/common/page_alloc.c b/xen/common/page_alloc.c
index de1480316f05..c9e82fd7ab62 100644
--- a/xen/common/page_alloc.c
+++ b/xen/common/page_alloc.c
@@ -792,7 +792,7 @@ static void page_list_add_scrub(struct page_info *pg, unsigned int node,
# define scrub_page_cold clear_page_cold
#endif
-static void scrub_one_page(const struct page_info *pg, bool cold)
+void scrub_one_page(const struct page_info *pg, bool cold)
{
void *ptr;
diff --git a/xen/include/xen/mm.h b/xen/include/xen/mm.h
index 426362adb2f4..f249c52cb7d8 100644
--- a/xen/include/xen/mm.h
+++ b/xen/include/xen/mm.h
@@ -144,6 +144,7 @@ unsigned long avail_domheap_pages_region(
unsigned long avail_node_heap_pages(unsigned int nodeid);
#define alloc_domheap_page(d,f) (alloc_domheap_pages(d,0,f))
#define free_domheap_page(p) (free_domheap_pages(p,0))
+void scrub_one_page(const struct page_info *pg, bool cold);
int online_page(mfn_t mfn, uint32_t *status);
int offline_page(mfn_t mfn, int broken, uint32_t *status);
diff --git a/xen/include/xen/sched.h b/xen/include/xen/sched.h
index 91d6a49daf16..735d5b76b411 100644
--- a/xen/include/xen/sched.h
+++ b/xen/include/xen/sched.h
@@ -661,6 +661,11 @@ struct domain
/* Pointer to console settings; NULL for system domains. */
struct domain_console *console;
+
+ /* Pointer to allocated domheap page that possibly needs scrubbing. */
+ struct page_info *pending_scrub;
+ unsigned int pending_scrub_order;
+ unsigned int pending_scrub_index;
} __aligned(PAGE_SIZE);
static inline struct page_list_head *page_to_list(
--
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* [PATCH v2 3/3] xen/mm: limit non-scrubbed allocations to a specific order
2026-01-15 11:18 [PATCH v2 0/3] xen/mm: limit in-place scrubbing Roger Pau Monne
2026-01-15 11:18 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] xen/mm: enforce SCRUB_DEBUG checks for MEMF_no_scrub allocations Roger Pau Monne
2026-01-15 11:18 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] xen/mm: allow deferred scrub of physmap populate allocated pages Roger Pau Monne
@ 2026-01-15 11:18 ` Roger Pau Monne
2026-01-19 16:13 ` Jan Beulich
2 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Roger Pau Monne @ 2026-01-15 11:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: xen-devel
Cc: Roger Pau Monne, Andrew Cooper, Anthony PERARD, Michal Orzel,
Jan Beulich, Julien Grall, Stefano Stabellini
The current logic allows for up to 1G pages to be scrubbed in place, which
can cause the watchdog to trigger in practice. Reduce the limit for
in-place scrubbed allocations to a newly introduced define:
CONFIG_DIRTY_MAX_ORDER. This currently defaults to CONFIG_DOMU_MAX_ORDER
on all architectures. Also introduce a command line option to set the
value.
Fixes: 74d2e11ccfd2 ("mm: Scrub pages in alloc_heap_pages() if needed")
Signed-off-by: Roger Pau Monné <roger.pau@citrix.com>
---
Changes since v1:
- Split from previous patch.
- Introduce a command line option to set the limit.
---
docs/misc/xen-command-line.pandoc | 9 +++++++++
xen/common/page_alloc.c | 23 ++++++++++++++++++++++-
2 files changed, 31 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/docs/misc/xen-command-line.pandoc b/docs/misc/xen-command-line.pandoc
index 50d7edb2488e..65b4dfc826b5 100644
--- a/docs/misc/xen-command-line.pandoc
+++ b/docs/misc/xen-command-line.pandoc
@@ -1822,6 +1822,15 @@ Specify the deepest C-state CPUs are permitted to be placed in, and
optionally the maximum sub C-state to be used used. The latter only applies
to the highest permitted C-state.
+### max-order-dirty
+> `= <integer>`
+
+Specify the maximum allocation order allowed when scrubbing allocated pages
+in-place. The allocation is non-preemptive, and hence the value must be keep
+low enough to avoid hogging the CPU for too long.
+
+Defaults to `CONFIG_DIRTY_MAX_ORDER` or if unset to `CONFIG_DOMU_MAX_ORDER`.
+
### max_gsi_irqs (x86)
> `= <integer>`
diff --git a/xen/common/page_alloc.c b/xen/common/page_alloc.c
index c9e82fd7ab62..728b4d6c9861 100644
--- a/xen/common/page_alloc.c
+++ b/xen/common/page_alloc.c
@@ -267,6 +267,13 @@ static PAGE_LIST_HEAD(page_offlined_list);
/* Broken page list, protected by heap_lock. */
static PAGE_LIST_HEAD(page_broken_list);
+/* Maximum order allowed for allocations with MEMF_no_scrub. */
+#ifndef CONFIG_DIRTY_MAX_ORDER
+# define CONFIG_DIRTY_MAX_ORDER CONFIG_DOMU_MAX_ORDER
+#endif
+static unsigned int __ro_after_init dirty_max_order = CONFIG_DIRTY_MAX_ORDER;
+integer_param("max-order-dirty", dirty_max_order);
+
/*************************
* BOOT-TIME ALLOCATOR
*/
@@ -1008,7 +1015,13 @@ static struct page_info *alloc_heap_pages(
pg = get_free_buddy(zone_lo, zone_hi, order, memflags, d);
/* Try getting a dirty buddy if we couldn't get a clean one. */
- if ( !pg && !(memflags & MEMF_no_scrub) )
+ if ( !pg && !(memflags & MEMF_no_scrub) &&
+ /*
+ * Allow any order unscrubbed allocations during boot time, we
+ * compensate by processing softirqs in the scrubbing loop below once
+ * irqs are enabled.
+ */
+ (order <= dirty_max_order || system_state < SYS_STATE_active) )
pg = get_free_buddy(zone_lo, zone_hi, order,
memflags | MEMF_no_scrub, d);
if ( !pg )
@@ -1117,6 +1130,14 @@ static struct page_info *alloc_heap_pages(
scrub_one_page(&pg[i], cold);
dirty_cnt++;
+
+ /*
+ * Use SYS_STATE_smp_boot explicitly; ahead of that state
+ * interrupts are disabled.
+ */
+ if ( system_state == SYS_STATE_smp_boot &&
+ !(dirty_cnt & 0xff) )
+ process_pending_softirqs();
}
else
check_one_page(&pg[i]);
--
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* Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] xen/mm: allow deferred scrub of physmap populate allocated pages
2026-01-15 11:18 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] xen/mm: allow deferred scrub of physmap populate allocated pages Roger Pau Monne
@ 2026-01-19 13:00 ` Jan Beulich
2026-01-22 12:48 ` Roger Pau Monné
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Jan Beulich @ 2026-01-19 13:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Roger Pau Monne
Cc: Andrew Cooper, Anthony PERARD, Michal Orzel, Julien Grall,
Stefano Stabellini, xen-devel
On 15.01.2026 12:18, Roger Pau Monne wrote:
> --- a/xen/common/domain.c
> +++ b/xen/common/domain.c
> @@ -722,6 +722,15 @@ static void _domain_destroy(struct domain *d)
>
> XVFREE(d->console);
>
> + if ( d->pending_scrub )
> + {
> + BUG_ON(d->creation_finished);
> + free_domheap_pages(d->pending_scrub, d->pending_scrub_order);
> + d->pending_scrub = NULL;
> + d->pending_scrub_order = 0;
> + d->pending_scrub_index = 0;
> + }
Because of the other zeroing wanted (it's not strictly needed, is it?),
it may be a little awkward to use FREE_DOMHEAP_PAGES() here. Yet I would
still have recommended to avoid its open-coding, if only we had such a
wrapper already.
Would this better be done earlier, in domain_kill(), to avoid needlessly
holding back memory that isn't going to be used by this domain anymore?
Would require the spinlock be acquired to guard against a racing
stash_allocation(), I suppose. In fact freeing right in
domain_unpause_by_systemcontroller() might be yet better (albeit without
eliminating the need to do it here or in domain_kill()).
> @@ -1678,6 +1687,14 @@ int domain_unpause_by_systemcontroller(struct domain *d)
> */
> if ( new == 0 && !d->creation_finished )
> {
> + if ( d->pending_scrub )
> + {
> + printk(XENLOG_ERR
> + "%pd: cannot be started with pending dirty pages, destroying\n",
s/dirty/unscrubbed/ to avoid ambiguity with "dirty" as in "needing writeback"?
> --- a/xen/common/memory.c
> +++ b/xen/common/memory.c
> @@ -159,6 +159,74 @@ static void increase_reservation(struct memop_args *a)
> a->nr_done = i;
> }
>
> +/*
> + * Temporary storage for a domain assigned page that's not been fully scrubbed.
> + * Stored pages must be domheap ones.
> + *
> + * The stashed page can be freed at any time by Xen, the caller must pass the
> + * order and NUMA node requirement to the fetch function to ensure the
> + * currently stashed page matches it's requirements.
> + */
> +static void stash_allocation(struct domain *d, struct page_info *page,
> + unsigned int order, unsigned int scrub_index)
> +{
> + BUG_ON(d->creation_finished);
Is this valid here and ...
> + rspin_lock(&d->page_alloc_lock);
> +
> + /*
> + * Drop any stashed allocation to accommodated the current one. This
> + * interface is designed to be used for single-threaded domain creation.
> + */
> + if ( d->pending_scrub )
> + free_domheap_pages(d->pending_scrub, d->pending_scrub_order);
> +
> + d->pending_scrub_index = scrub_index;
> + d->pending_scrub_order = order;
> + d->pending_scrub = page;
> +
> + rspin_unlock(&d->page_alloc_lock);
> +}
> +
> +static struct page_info *get_stashed_allocation(struct domain *d,
> + unsigned int order,
> + nodeid_t node,
> + unsigned int *scrub_index)
> +{
> + struct page_info *page = NULL;
> +
> + BUG_ON(d->creation_finished && d->pending_scrub);
... here? A badly behaved toolstack could do a populate in parallel with
the initial unpause, couldn't it?
> + rspin_lock(&d->page_alloc_lock);
> +
> + /*
> + * If there's a pending page to scrub check it satisfies the current
> + * request. If it doesn't keep it stashed and return NULL.
> + */
> + if ( !d->pending_scrub || d->pending_scrub_order != order ||
> + (node != NUMA_NO_NODE && node != page_to_nid(d->pending_scrub)) )
Ah, and MEMF_exact_node is handled in the caller.
> + goto done;
> + else
> + {
> + page = d->pending_scrub;
> + *scrub_index = d->pending_scrub_index;
> + }
> +
> + /*
> + * The caller now owns the page, clear stashed information. Prevent
> + * concurrent usages of get_stashed_allocation() from returning the same
> + * page to different contexts.
> + */
> + d->pending_scrub_index = 0;
> + d->pending_scrub_order = 0;
> + d->pending_scrub = NULL;
> +
> + done:
> + rspin_unlock(&d->page_alloc_lock);
> +
> + return page;
> +}
Hmm, you free the earlier allocation only in stash_allocation(), i.e. that
memory isn't available to fulfill the present request. (I do understand
that the freeing there can't be dropped, to deal with possible races
caused by the toolstack.)
The use of "goto" here also looks a little odd, as it would be easy to get
away without. Or else I'd like to ask that the "else" be dropped.
> @@ -286,6 +365,30 @@ static void populate_physmap(struct memop_args *a)
> goto out;
> }
>
> + if ( !d->creation_finished )
> + {
> + unsigned int dirty_cnt = 0, j;
Declaring (another) j here is going to upset Eclair, I fear, as ...
> + /* Check if there's anything to scrub. */
> + for ( j = scrub_start; j < (1U << a->extent_order); j++ )
> + {
> + if ( !test_and_clear_bit(_PGC_need_scrub,
> + &page[j].count_info) )
> + continue;
> +
> + scrub_one_page(&page[j], true);
> +
> + if ( (j + 1) != (1U << a->extent_order) &&
> + !(++dirty_cnt & 0xff) &&
> + hypercall_preempt_check() )
> + {
> + a->preempted = 1;
> + stash_allocation(d, page, a->extent_order, ++j);
Better j + 1, as j's value isn't supposed to be used any further?
> + goto out;
> + }
> + }
> + }
> +
> if ( unlikely(a->memflags & MEMF_no_tlbflush) )
> {
> for ( j = 0; j < (1U << a->extent_order); j++ )
... for this to work there must already be one available from an outer scope.
Jan
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* Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] xen/mm: limit non-scrubbed allocations to a specific order
2026-01-15 11:18 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] xen/mm: limit non-scrubbed allocations to a specific order Roger Pau Monne
@ 2026-01-19 16:13 ` Jan Beulich
2026-01-20 7:25 ` Jan Beulich
2026-01-22 12:55 ` Roger Pau Monné
0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Jan Beulich @ 2026-01-19 16:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Roger Pau Monne
Cc: Andrew Cooper, Anthony PERARD, Michal Orzel, Julien Grall,
Stefano Stabellini, xen-devel
On 15.01.2026 12:18, Roger Pau Monne wrote:
> The current logic allows for up to 1G pages to be scrubbed in place, which
> can cause the watchdog to trigger in practice. Reduce the limit for
> in-place scrubbed allocations to a newly introduced define:
> CONFIG_DIRTY_MAX_ORDER. This currently defaults to CONFIG_DOMU_MAX_ORDER
> on all architectures. Also introduce a command line option to set the
> value.
>
> Fixes: 74d2e11ccfd2 ("mm: Scrub pages in alloc_heap_pages() if needed")
> Signed-off-by: Roger Pau Monné <roger.pau@citrix.com>
> ---
> Changes since v1:
> - Split from previous patch.
> - Introduce a command line option to set the limit.
> ---
> docs/misc/xen-command-line.pandoc | 9 +++++++++
> xen/common/page_alloc.c | 23 ++++++++++++++++++++++-
> 2 files changed, 31 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
If you confine the change to page_alloc.c, won't this mean that patch 2's
passing of MEMF_no_scrub will then also be bounded (in which case the need
for patch 2 would largely disappear)?
> --- a/docs/misc/xen-command-line.pandoc
> +++ b/docs/misc/xen-command-line.pandoc
> @@ -1822,6 +1822,15 @@ Specify the deepest C-state CPUs are permitted to be placed in, and
> optionally the maximum sub C-state to be used used. The latter only applies
> to the highest permitted C-state.
>
> +### max-order-dirty
> +> `= <integer>`
> +
> +Specify the maximum allocation order allowed when scrubbing allocated pages
> +in-place. The allocation is non-preemptive, and hence the value must be keep
> +low enough to avoid hogging the CPU for too long.
> +
> +Defaults to `CONFIG_DIRTY_MAX_ORDER` or if unset to `CONFIG_DOMU_MAX_ORDER`.
This may end up misleading, as - despite their names - these aren't really
Kconfig settings that people could easily control in their builds.
> ### max_gsi_irqs (x86)
> > `= <integer>`
I also wonder whether your addition wouldn't more naturally go a litter
further down, by assuming / implying that the sorting used largely ignores
separator characters (underscore vs dash here).
Jan
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] xen/mm: limit non-scrubbed allocations to a specific order
2026-01-19 16:13 ` Jan Beulich
@ 2026-01-20 7:25 ` Jan Beulich
2026-01-22 13:05 ` Roger Pau Monné
2026-01-22 12:55 ` Roger Pau Monné
1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Jan Beulich @ 2026-01-20 7:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Roger Pau Monne
Cc: Andrew Cooper, Anthony PERARD, Michal Orzel, Julien Grall,
Stefano Stabellini, xen-devel
On 19.01.2026 17:13, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 15.01.2026 12:18, Roger Pau Monne wrote:
>> The current logic allows for up to 1G pages to be scrubbed in place, which
>> can cause the watchdog to trigger in practice. Reduce the limit for
>> in-place scrubbed allocations to a newly introduced define:
>> CONFIG_DIRTY_MAX_ORDER. This currently defaults to CONFIG_DOMU_MAX_ORDER
>> on all architectures. Also introduce a command line option to set the
>> value.
>>
>> Fixes: 74d2e11ccfd2 ("mm: Scrub pages in alloc_heap_pages() if needed")
>> Signed-off-by: Roger Pau Monné <roger.pau@citrix.com>
>> ---
>> Changes since v1:
>> - Split from previous patch.
>> - Introduce a command line option to set the limit.
>> ---
>> docs/misc/xen-command-line.pandoc | 9 +++++++++
>> xen/common/page_alloc.c | 23 ++++++++++++++++++++++-
>> 2 files changed, 31 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> If you confine the change to page_alloc.c, won't this mean that patch 2's
> passing of MEMF_no_scrub will then also be bounded (in which case the need
> for patch 2 would largely disappear)?
This was rubbish, sorry. Besides my being thick-headed I can only attribute
this to the double negation in !(memflags & MEMF_no_scrub).
I have another concern, though: You effectively undermine ptdom_max_order,
which is even more of a problem as that would also affect Dom0's ability to
obtain larger contiguous I/O buffers. Perhaps DIRTY_MAX_ORDER ought to
default to PTDOM_MAX_ORDER (if HAS_PASSTHROUGH)? Yet then command line
options may also need tying together, such that people using
"memop-max-order=" to alter (increase) ptdom_max_order won't need to
additionally use "max-order-dirty="? At which point maybe the new option
shouldn't be a standalone one, but be added to "memop-max-order=" (despite
it being effected in alloc_heap_pages())?
Jan
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* Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] xen/mm: allow deferred scrub of physmap populate allocated pages
2026-01-19 13:00 ` Jan Beulich
@ 2026-01-22 12:48 ` Roger Pau Monné
2026-01-22 13:00 ` Jan Beulich
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Roger Pau Monné @ 2026-01-22 12:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jan Beulich
Cc: Andrew Cooper, Anthony PERARD, Michal Orzel, Julien Grall,
Stefano Stabellini, xen-devel
On Mon, Jan 19, 2026 at 02:00:49PM +0100, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 15.01.2026 12:18, Roger Pau Monne wrote:
> > --- a/xen/common/domain.c
> > +++ b/xen/common/domain.c
> > @@ -722,6 +722,15 @@ static void _domain_destroy(struct domain *d)
> >
> > XVFREE(d->console);
> >
> > + if ( d->pending_scrub )
> > + {
> > + BUG_ON(d->creation_finished);
> > + free_domheap_pages(d->pending_scrub, d->pending_scrub_order);
> > + d->pending_scrub = NULL;
> > + d->pending_scrub_order = 0;
> > + d->pending_scrub_index = 0;
> > + }
>
> Because of the other zeroing wanted (it's not strictly needed, is it?),
> it may be a little awkward to use FREE_DOMHEAP_PAGES() here. Yet I would
> still have recommended to avoid its open-coding, if only we had such a
> wrapper already.
I don't mind introducing a FREE_DOMHEAP_PAGES() wrapper in this same
patch, if you are OK with it.
> Would this better be done earlier, in domain_kill(), to avoid needlessly
> holding back memory that isn't going to be used by this domain anymore?
> Would require the spinlock be acquired to guard against a racing
> stash_allocation(), I suppose. In fact freeing right in
> domain_unpause_by_systemcontroller() might be yet better (albeit without
> eliminating the need to do it here or in domain_kill()).
Even with a lock taken moving to domain_kill() would be racy. A rogue
toolstack could keep trying to issue populate_physmap hypercalls which
would fail in the assign_pages() call, but it could still leave
pending pages in d->pending_scrub, as the assign_pages() call happens
strictly after the scrubbing is done.
> > @@ -1678,6 +1687,14 @@ int domain_unpause_by_systemcontroller(struct domain *d)
> > */
> > if ( new == 0 && !d->creation_finished )
> > {
> > + if ( d->pending_scrub )
> > + {
> > + printk(XENLOG_ERR
> > + "%pd: cannot be started with pending dirty pages, destroying\n",
>
> s/dirty/unscrubbed/ to avoid ambiguity with "dirty" as in "needing writeback"?
>
> > --- a/xen/common/memory.c
> > +++ b/xen/common/memory.c
> > @@ -159,6 +159,74 @@ static void increase_reservation(struct memop_args *a)
> > a->nr_done = i;
> > }
> >
> > +/*
> > + * Temporary storage for a domain assigned page that's not been fully scrubbed.
> > + * Stored pages must be domheap ones.
> > + *
> > + * The stashed page can be freed at any time by Xen, the caller must pass the
> > + * order and NUMA node requirement to the fetch function to ensure the
> > + * currently stashed page matches it's requirements.
> > + */
> > +static void stash_allocation(struct domain *d, struct page_info *page,
> > + unsigned int order, unsigned int scrub_index)
> > +{
> > + BUG_ON(d->creation_finished);
>
> Is this valid here and ...
>
> > + rspin_lock(&d->page_alloc_lock);
> > +
> > + /*
> > + * Drop any stashed allocation to accommodated the current one. This
> > + * interface is designed to be used for single-threaded domain creation.
> > + */
> > + if ( d->pending_scrub )
> > + free_domheap_pages(d->pending_scrub, d->pending_scrub_order);
> > +
> > + d->pending_scrub_index = scrub_index;
> > + d->pending_scrub_order = order;
> > + d->pending_scrub = page;
> > +
> > + rspin_unlock(&d->page_alloc_lock);
> > +}
> > +
> > +static struct page_info *get_stashed_allocation(struct domain *d,
> > + unsigned int order,
> > + nodeid_t node,
> > + unsigned int *scrub_index)
> > +{
> > + struct page_info *page = NULL;
> > +
> > + BUG_ON(d->creation_finished && d->pending_scrub);
>
> ... here? A badly behaved toolstack could do a populate in parallel with
> the initial unpause, couldn't it?
Oh, I think I've forgot to refresh before sending the patch . I have
those as ASSERTs in my local copy anyway. But yes, you are right,
populate_physmap() is not done while holding the domctl lock, so it
can race with an unpause. I will remove the ASSERTs.
> > + rspin_lock(&d->page_alloc_lock);
> > +
> > + /*
> > + * If there's a pending page to scrub check it satisfies the current
> > + * request. If it doesn't keep it stashed and return NULL.
> > + */
> > + if ( !d->pending_scrub || d->pending_scrub_order != order ||
> > + (node != NUMA_NO_NODE && node != page_to_nid(d->pending_scrub)) )
>
> Ah, and MEMF_exact_node is handled in the caller.
>
> > + goto done;
> > + else
> > + {
> > + page = d->pending_scrub;
> > + *scrub_index = d->pending_scrub_index;
> > + }
> > +
> > + /*
> > + * The caller now owns the page, clear stashed information. Prevent
> > + * concurrent usages of get_stashed_allocation() from returning the same
> > + * page to different contexts.
> > + */
> > + d->pending_scrub_index = 0;
> > + d->pending_scrub_order = 0;
> > + d->pending_scrub = NULL;
> > +
> > + done:
> > + rspin_unlock(&d->page_alloc_lock);
> > +
> > + return page;
> > +}
>
> Hmm, you free the earlier allocation only in stash_allocation(), i.e. that
> memory isn't available to fulfill the present request. (I do understand
> that the freeing there can't be dropped, to deal with possible races
> caused by the toolstack.)
Since we expect populate_physmap(9 to be executed sequentially by the
toolstack I would argue it's fine to hold onto that memory. Otherwise
I could possibly free in get_stashed_allocation() when the request
doesn't match what's stashed. I opted for freeing later in
stash_allocation() to maybe give time for the other parallel caller to
finish the scrubbing.
> The use of "goto" here also looks a little odd, as it would be easy to get
> away without. Or else I'd like to ask that the "else" be dropped.
Hm, OK, let me use an unlock + return and also drop the else then. I
think that's clearer.
> > @@ -286,6 +365,30 @@ static void populate_physmap(struct memop_args *a)
> > goto out;
> > }
> >
> > + if ( !d->creation_finished )
> > + {
> > + unsigned int dirty_cnt = 0, j;
>
> Declaring (another) j here is going to upset Eclair, I fear, as ...
>
> > + /* Check if there's anything to scrub. */
> > + for ( j = scrub_start; j < (1U << a->extent_order); j++ )
> > + {
> > + if ( !test_and_clear_bit(_PGC_need_scrub,
> > + &page[j].count_info) )
> > + continue;
> > +
> > + scrub_one_page(&page[j], true);
> > +
> > + if ( (j + 1) != (1U << a->extent_order) &&
> > + !(++dirty_cnt & 0xff) &&
> > + hypercall_preempt_check() )
> > + {
> > + a->preempted = 1;
> > + stash_allocation(d, page, a->extent_order, ++j);
>
> Better j + 1, as j's value isn't supposed to be used any further?
>
> > + goto out;
> > + }
> > + }
> > + }
> > +
> > if ( unlikely(a->memflags & MEMF_no_tlbflush) )
> > {
> > for ( j = 0; j < (1U << a->extent_order); j++ )
>
> ... for this to work there must already be one available from an outer scope.
Indeed, I've removed that outrageous j variable.
Thanks, Roger.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] xen/mm: limit non-scrubbed allocations to a specific order
2026-01-19 16:13 ` Jan Beulich
2026-01-20 7:25 ` Jan Beulich
@ 2026-01-22 12:55 ` Roger Pau Monné
2026-01-22 13:07 ` Jan Beulich
1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Roger Pau Monné @ 2026-01-22 12:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jan Beulich
Cc: Andrew Cooper, Anthony PERARD, Michal Orzel, Julien Grall,
Stefano Stabellini, xen-devel
On Mon, Jan 19, 2026 at 05:13:25PM +0100, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 15.01.2026 12:18, Roger Pau Monne wrote:
> > --- a/docs/misc/xen-command-line.pandoc
> > +++ b/docs/misc/xen-command-line.pandoc
> > @@ -1822,6 +1822,15 @@ Specify the deepest C-state CPUs are permitted to be placed in, and
> > optionally the maximum sub C-state to be used used. The latter only applies
> > to the highest permitted C-state.
> >
> > +### max-order-dirty
> > +> `= <integer>`
> > +
> > +Specify the maximum allocation order allowed when scrubbing allocated pages
> > +in-place. The allocation is non-preemptive, and hence the value must be keep
> > +low enough to avoid hogging the CPU for too long.
> > +
> > +Defaults to `CONFIG_DIRTY_MAX_ORDER` or if unset to `CONFIG_DOMU_MAX_ORDER`.
>
> This may end up misleading, as - despite their names - these aren't really
> Kconfig settings that people could easily control in their builds.
But those have different default values depending on the architecture,
hence I didn't know what else to reference to as the default. I'm
open to suggestions, but I think we need to reference some default
value so the user knows where to look for.
> > ### max_gsi_irqs (x86)
> > > `= <integer>`
>
> I also wonder whether your addition wouldn't more naturally go a litter
> further down, by assuming / implying that the sorting used largely ignores
> separator characters (underscore vs dash here).
My bad, I think I've originally named it max-dirty-order and forgot to
move it down when renaming to max-order-dirty.
Thanks, Roger.
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* Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] xen/mm: allow deferred scrub of physmap populate allocated pages
2026-01-22 12:48 ` Roger Pau Monné
@ 2026-01-22 13:00 ` Jan Beulich
0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Jan Beulich @ 2026-01-22 13:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Roger Pau Monné
Cc: Andrew Cooper, Anthony PERARD, Michal Orzel, Julien Grall,
Stefano Stabellini, xen-devel
On 22.01.2026 13:48, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2026 at 02:00:49PM +0100, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> On 15.01.2026 12:18, Roger Pau Monne wrote:
>>> --- a/xen/common/domain.c
>>> +++ b/xen/common/domain.c
>>> @@ -722,6 +722,15 @@ static void _domain_destroy(struct domain *d)
>>>
>>> XVFREE(d->console);
>>>
>>> + if ( d->pending_scrub )
>>> + {
>>> + BUG_ON(d->creation_finished);
>>> + free_domheap_pages(d->pending_scrub, d->pending_scrub_order);
>>> + d->pending_scrub = NULL;
>>> + d->pending_scrub_order = 0;
>>> + d->pending_scrub_index = 0;
>>> + }
>>
>> Because of the other zeroing wanted (it's not strictly needed, is it?),
>> it may be a little awkward to use FREE_DOMHEAP_PAGES() here. Yet I would
>> still have recommended to avoid its open-coding, if only we had such a
>> wrapper already.
>
> I don't mind introducing a FREE_DOMHEAP_PAGES() wrapper in this same
> patch, if you are OK with it.
I'd be fine with that.
>> Would this better be done earlier, in domain_kill(), to avoid needlessly
>> holding back memory that isn't going to be used by this domain anymore?
>> Would require the spinlock be acquired to guard against a racing
>> stash_allocation(), I suppose. In fact freeing right in
>> domain_unpause_by_systemcontroller() might be yet better (albeit without
>> eliminating the need to do it here or in domain_kill()).
>
> Even with a lock taken moving to domain_kill() would be racy. A rogue
> toolstack could keep trying to issue populate_physmap hypercalls which
> would fail in the assign_pages() call, but it could still leave
> pending pages in d->pending_scrub, as the assign_pages() call happens
> strictly after the scrubbing is done.
As indicated, the freeing here may need to stay. But making an attempt far
earlier may help the system overall.
>>> + /*
>>> + * If there's a pending page to scrub check it satisfies the current
>>> + * request. If it doesn't keep it stashed and return NULL.
>>> + */
>>> + if ( !d->pending_scrub || d->pending_scrub_order != order ||
>>> + (node != NUMA_NO_NODE && node != page_to_nid(d->pending_scrub)) )
>>
>> Ah, and MEMF_exact_node is handled in the caller.
>>
>>> + goto done;
>>> + else
>>> + {
>>> + page = d->pending_scrub;
>>> + *scrub_index = d->pending_scrub_index;
>>> + }
>>> +
>>> + /*
>>> + * The caller now owns the page, clear stashed information. Prevent
>>> + * concurrent usages of get_stashed_allocation() from returning the same
>>> + * page to different contexts.
>>> + */
>>> + d->pending_scrub_index = 0;
>>> + d->pending_scrub_order = 0;
>>> + d->pending_scrub = NULL;
>>> +
>>> + done:
>>> + rspin_unlock(&d->page_alloc_lock);
>>> +
>>> + return page;
>>> +}
>>
>> Hmm, you free the earlier allocation only in stash_allocation(), i.e. that
>> memory isn't available to fulfill the present request. (I do understand
>> that the freeing there can't be dropped, to deal with possible races
>> caused by the toolstack.)
>
> Since we expect populate_physmap(9 to be executed sequentially by the
> toolstack I would argue it's fine to hold onto that memory.
Here you say "sequentially", just to ...
> Otherwise
> I could possibly free in get_stashed_allocation() when the request
> doesn't match what's stashed. I opted for freeing later in
> stash_allocation() to maybe give time for the other parallel caller to
> finish the scrubbing.
... assume non-sequential behavior here. I guess I'm a little confused.
(Yes, freeing right in get_stashed_allocation() is what I'd expect.)
>> The use of "goto" here also looks a little odd, as it would be easy to get
>> away without. Or else I'd like to ask that the "else" be dropped.
>
> Hm, OK, let me use an unlock + return and also drop the else then. I
> think that's clearer.
I think if() with the condition inverted and a single unlock+return at
the end would be easiest to follow.
Jan
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] xen/mm: limit non-scrubbed allocations to a specific order
2026-01-20 7:25 ` Jan Beulich
@ 2026-01-22 13:05 ` Roger Pau Monné
2026-01-22 13:09 ` Jan Beulich
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Roger Pau Monné @ 2026-01-22 13:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jan Beulich
Cc: Andrew Cooper, Anthony PERARD, Michal Orzel, Julien Grall,
Stefano Stabellini, xen-devel
On Tue, Jan 20, 2026 at 08:25:49AM +0100, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 19.01.2026 17:13, Jan Beulich wrote:
> > On 15.01.2026 12:18, Roger Pau Monne wrote:
> >> The current logic allows for up to 1G pages to be scrubbed in place, which
> >> can cause the watchdog to trigger in practice. Reduce the limit for
> >> in-place scrubbed allocations to a newly introduced define:
> >> CONFIG_DIRTY_MAX_ORDER. This currently defaults to CONFIG_DOMU_MAX_ORDER
> >> on all architectures. Also introduce a command line option to set the
> >> value.
> >>
> >> Fixes: 74d2e11ccfd2 ("mm: Scrub pages in alloc_heap_pages() if needed")
> >> Signed-off-by: Roger Pau Monné <roger.pau@citrix.com>
> >> ---
> >> Changes since v1:
> >> - Split from previous patch.
> >> - Introduce a command line option to set the limit.
> >> ---
> >> docs/misc/xen-command-line.pandoc | 9 +++++++++
> >> xen/common/page_alloc.c | 23 ++++++++++++++++++++++-
> >> 2 files changed, 31 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > If you confine the change to page_alloc.c, won't this mean that patch 2's
> > passing of MEMF_no_scrub will then also be bounded (in which case the need
> > for patch 2 would largely disappear)?
>
> This was rubbish, sorry. Besides my being thick-headed I can only attribute
> this to the double negation in !(memflags & MEMF_no_scrub).
>
> I have another concern, though: You effectively undermine ptdom_max_order,
> which is even more of a problem as that would also affect Dom0's ability to
> obtain larger contiguous I/O buffers. Perhaps DIRTY_MAX_ORDER ought to
> default to PTDOM_MAX_ORDER (if HAS_PASSTHROUGH)?
OK, yes, I can default to PTDOM_MAX_ORDER instead of DOMU_MAX_ORDER.
> Yet then command line
> options may also need tying together, such that people using
> "memop-max-order=" to alter (increase) ptdom_max_order won't need to
> additionally use "max-order-dirty="? At which point maybe the new option
> shouldn't be a standalone one, but be added to "memop-max-order=" (despite
> it being effected in alloc_heap_pages())?
I had concerns about adding it to "memop-max-order=" because it's effect
is not limited to "issued by the various kinds of domain", this is an
option that affects all allocations. I could try expanding the option
description to reflect that, but I wasn't sure whether it would lead
to confusion (as all options there are per-domain currently).
Also if added to "memop-max-order=" the parsing function needs to be
adjust a bit to consume an extra parameter in the !HAS_PASSTHROUGH
case (which is not much of an issue).
Thanks, Roger.
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* Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] xen/mm: limit non-scrubbed allocations to a specific order
2026-01-22 12:55 ` Roger Pau Monné
@ 2026-01-22 13:07 ` Jan Beulich
0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Jan Beulich @ 2026-01-22 13:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Roger Pau Monné
Cc: Andrew Cooper, Anthony PERARD, Michal Orzel, Julien Grall,
Stefano Stabellini, xen-devel
On 22.01.2026 13:55, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2026 at 05:13:25PM +0100, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> On 15.01.2026 12:18, Roger Pau Monne wrote:
>>> --- a/docs/misc/xen-command-line.pandoc
>>> +++ b/docs/misc/xen-command-line.pandoc
>>> @@ -1822,6 +1822,15 @@ Specify the deepest C-state CPUs are permitted to be placed in, and
>>> optionally the maximum sub C-state to be used used. The latter only applies
>>> to the highest permitted C-state.
>>>
>>> +### max-order-dirty
>>> +> `= <integer>`
>>> +
>>> +Specify the maximum allocation order allowed when scrubbing allocated pages
>>> +in-place. The allocation is non-preemptive, and hence the value must be keep
>>> +low enough to avoid hogging the CPU for too long.
>>> +
>>> +Defaults to `CONFIG_DIRTY_MAX_ORDER` or if unset to `CONFIG_DOMU_MAX_ORDER`.
>>
>> This may end up misleading, as - despite their names - these aren't really
>> Kconfig settings that people could easily control in their builds.
>
> But those have different default values depending on the architecture,
> hence I didn't know what else to reference to as the default. I'm
> open to suggestions, but I think we need to reference some default
> value so the user knows where to look for.
I agree something needs saying. In the absence of anything better we may be
able to think of, perhaps simply clarify that these are #define-s in source,
not Kconfig settings?
Jan
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* Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] xen/mm: limit non-scrubbed allocations to a specific order
2026-01-22 13:05 ` Roger Pau Monné
@ 2026-01-22 13:09 ` Jan Beulich
0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Jan Beulich @ 2026-01-22 13:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Roger Pau Monné
Cc: Andrew Cooper, Anthony PERARD, Michal Orzel, Julien Grall,
Stefano Stabellini, xen-devel
On 22.01.2026 14:05, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2026 at 08:25:49AM +0100, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> On 19.01.2026 17:13, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>> On 15.01.2026 12:18, Roger Pau Monne wrote:
>>>> The current logic allows for up to 1G pages to be scrubbed in place, which
>>>> can cause the watchdog to trigger in practice. Reduce the limit for
>>>> in-place scrubbed allocations to a newly introduced define:
>>>> CONFIG_DIRTY_MAX_ORDER. This currently defaults to CONFIG_DOMU_MAX_ORDER
>>>> on all architectures. Also introduce a command line option to set the
>>>> value.
>>>>
>>>> Fixes: 74d2e11ccfd2 ("mm: Scrub pages in alloc_heap_pages() if needed")
>>>> Signed-off-by: Roger Pau Monné <roger.pau@citrix.com>
>>>> ---
>>>> Changes since v1:
>>>> - Split from previous patch.
>>>> - Introduce a command line option to set the limit.
>>>> ---
>>>> docs/misc/xen-command-line.pandoc | 9 +++++++++
>>>> xen/common/page_alloc.c | 23 ++++++++++++++++++++++-
>>>> 2 files changed, 31 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>
>>> If you confine the change to page_alloc.c, won't this mean that patch 2's
>>> passing of MEMF_no_scrub will then also be bounded (in which case the need
>>> for patch 2 would largely disappear)?
>>
>> This was rubbish, sorry. Besides my being thick-headed I can only attribute
>> this to the double negation in !(memflags & MEMF_no_scrub).
>>
>> I have another concern, though: You effectively undermine ptdom_max_order,
>> which is even more of a problem as that would also affect Dom0's ability to
>> obtain larger contiguous I/O buffers. Perhaps DIRTY_MAX_ORDER ought to
>> default to PTDOM_MAX_ORDER (if HAS_PASSTHROUGH)?
>
> OK, yes, I can default to PTDOM_MAX_ORDER instead of DOMU_MAX_ORDER.
>
>> Yet then command line
>> options may also need tying together, such that people using
>> "memop-max-order=" to alter (increase) ptdom_max_order won't need to
>> additionally use "max-order-dirty="? At which point maybe the new option
>> shouldn't be a standalone one, but be added to "memop-max-order=" (despite
>> it being effected in alloc_heap_pages())?
>
> I had concerns about adding it to "memop-max-order=" because it's effect
> is not limited to "issued by the various kinds of domain", this is an
> option that affects all allocations. I could try expanding the option
> description to reflect that, but I wasn't sure whether it would lead
> to confusion (as all options there are per-domain currently).
Hmm, fair point. Let's keep it separate then.
Jan
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