Re: Scarlett 16i16 4th Gen: I/O error on kernel 6.19-rc6 (works on 6.18)

Re: Scarlett 16i16 4th Gen: I/O error on kernel 6.19-rc6 (works on 6.18)

[Geoffrey D. Bennett]

Hi Ruslan,

Audio playback for Focusrite USB interfaces is handled by the generic
USB audio driver (snd-usb-audio); the FCP driver I maintain only
handles the control protocol (mixer, routing, etc.) over a separate
USB endpoint — it's not involved in the actual audio data transfer.

I've CC'd the ALSA maintainers and linux-sound list to continue the
discussion there.

Regards,
Geoffrey.

On Sat, Jan 24, 2026 at 08:56:38PM +0500, Ruslan Garynin wrote:
>    Hi Geoffrey,
> 
>    I found a regression affecting Scarlett 16i16 4th Gen playback on kernel
>    6.19-rc6.
> 
>    Summary:
>    - Working: 6.18.6-zen1-1-zen
>    - Broken: 6.19.0-rc6-1-mainline
>    - Issue: I/O error on USB audio playback
>    - HDA/HDMI audio works fine on 6.19-rc6, so it's USB audio specific
> 
>    Test:
>      systemctl --user stop pipewire pipewire-pulse wireplumber
>      speaker-test -D hw:3 -c 18 -t sine -F S32_LE
> 
>    On 6.18 (works):
>      0 - Front Left
>      1 - Front Right
>      ...
>      15 - Channel 16
>      (sound plays)
> 
>    On 6.19-rc6 (fails):
>      0 - Front Left
>      Write error: -5,Input/output error
> 
>    Device info:
>      USB ID: 1235:821b
>      FCP driver loads OK: "Focusrite Control Protocol Driver ready"
>      Implicit Feedback Mode: Yes
>      No errors in dmesg
> 
>    /proc/asound/card3/stream0:
>      Format: S32_LE
>      Channels: 18
>      Endpoint: 0x01 (1 OUT) (ASYNC)
>      Rates: 44100, 48000
>      Sync Endpoint: 0x81 (1 IN)
>      Implicit Feedback Mode: Yes
> 
>    Note: This might get fixed on its own when mainline is updated further
>    before
>    the stable 6.19 release. I'm just reporting this in case it doesn't, so
>    you're
>    aware of a potential issue that could affect users when 6.19 changes
>    eventually
>    land in stable kernels.
> 
>    Let me know if you need any additional info or testing.
> 
>    Thanks for maintaining the Scarlett driver!
> 
>    Best regards,
>    Ruslan Garynin

Re: Scarlett 16i16 4th Gen: I/O error on kernel 6.19-rc6 (works on 6.18)

[Takashi Iwai]

On Sat, 24 Jan 2026 17:24:07 +0100,
Geoffrey D. Bennett wrote:
> 
> Hi Ruslan,
> 
> Audio playback for Focusrite USB interfaces is handled by the generic
> USB audio driver (snd-usb-audio); the FCP driver I maintain only
> handles the control protocol (mixer, routing, etc.) over a separate
> USB endpoint — it's not involved in the actual audio data transfer.
> 
> I've CC'd the ALSA maintainers and linux-sound list to continue the
> discussion there.
> 
> Regards,
> Geoffrey.
> 
> On Sat, Jan 24, 2026 at 08:56:38PM +0500, Ruslan Garynin wrote:
> >    Hi Geoffrey,
> > 
> >    I found a regression affecting Scarlett 16i16 4th Gen playback on kernel
> >    6.19-rc6.
> > 
> >    Summary:
> >    - Working: 6.18.6-zen1-1-zen
> >    - Broken: 6.19.0-rc6-1-mainline
> >    - Issue: I/O error on USB audio playback
> >    - HDA/HDMI audio works fine on 6.19-rc6, so it's USB audio specific
> > 
> >    Test:
> >      systemctl --user stop pipewire pipewire-pulse wireplumber
> >      speaker-test -D hw:3 -c 18 -t sine -F S32_LE
> > 
> >    On 6.18 (works):
> >      0 - Front Left
> >      1 - Front Right
> >      ...
> >      15 - Channel 16
> >      (sound plays)
> > 
> >    On 6.19-rc6 (fails):
> >      0 - Front Left
> >      Write error: -5,Input/output error
> > 
> >    Device info:
> >      USB ID: 1235:821b
> >      FCP driver loads OK: "Focusrite Control Protocol Driver ready"
> >      Implicit Feedback Mode: Yes
> >      No errors in dmesg
> > 
> >    /proc/asound/card3/stream0:
> >      Format: S32_LE
> >      Channels: 18
> >      Endpoint: 0x01 (1 OUT) (ASYNC)
> >      Rates: 44100, 48000
> >      Sync Endpoint: 0x81 (1 IN)
> >      Implicit Feedback Mode: Yes
> > 
> >    Note: This might get fixed on its own when mainline is updated further
> >    before
> >    the stable 6.19 release. I'm just reporting this in case it doesn't, so
> >    you're
> >    aware of a potential issue that could affect users when 6.19 changes
> >    eventually
> >    land in stable kernels.
> > 
> >    Let me know if you need any additional info or testing.
> > 
> >    Thanks for maintaining the Scarlett driver!
> > 
> >    Best regards,
> >    Ruslan Garynin

Could you check whether the earlier 6.19-rc shows the same problem?
Also check the very latest Linus tree, too.


Takashi

Re: Scarlett 16i16 4th Gen: I/O error on kernel 6.19-rc6 (works on 6.18)

[Takashi Iwai]

On Sun, 25 Jan 2026 09:59:00 +0100,
Ruslan Garynin wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Takashi,
> 
> I checked my pacman logs and found that:
> 
> - Working version: 6.19-rc3
> - Broken version: 6.19-rc6
> 
> The upgrade from rc3 to rc6 happened on 2026-01-23.
> 
> I will try to rebuild and test rc4 and rc5 to narrow down
> exactly which version introduced the regression.
> 
> Will report back with the results.

If it worked, it might be the recent fix that landed in rc6, and this
was corrected in Linus tree for the upcoming rc7 via commit
70b4db7d258118a7464f039112a74ddb49a95b06
    ALSA: usb-audio: Use the right limit for PCM OOB check

So please check the Linus tree or cherry-pick the commit above.


thanks,

Takashi

> 
> Regards,
> Ruslan Garynin
> 
> On Sun, Jan 25, 2026 at 1:44 PM Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> 
>     On Sat, 24 Jan 2026 17:24:07 +0100,
>     Geoffrey D. Bennett wrote:
>     >
>     > Hi Ruslan,
>     >
>     > Audio playback for Focusrite USB interfaces is handled by the generic
>     > USB audio driver (snd-usb-audio); the FCP driver I maintain only
>     > handles the control protocol (mixer, routing, etc.) over a separate
>     > USB endpoint — it's not involved in the actual audio data transfer.
>     >
>     > I've CC'd the ALSA maintainers and linux-sound list to continue the
>     > discussion there.
>     >
>     > Regards,
>     > Geoffrey.
>     >
>     > On Sat, Jan 24, 2026 at 08:56:38PM +0500, Ruslan Garynin wrote:
>     > >    Hi Geoffrey,
>     > >
>     > >    I found a regression affecting Scarlett 16i16 4th Gen playback on
>     kernel
>     > >    6.19-rc6.
>     > >
>     > >    Summary:
>     > >    - Working: 6.18.6-zen1-1-zen
>     > >    - Broken: 6.19.0-rc6-1-mainline
>     > >    - Issue: I/O error on USB audio playback
>     > >    - HDA/HDMI audio works fine on 6.19-rc6, so it's USB audio specific
>     > >
>     > >    Test:
>     > >      systemctl --user stop pipewire pipewire-pulse wireplumber
>     > >      speaker-test -D hw:3 -c 18 -t sine -F S32_LE
>     > >
>     > >    On 6.18 (works):
>     > >      0 - Front Left
>     > >      1 - Front Right
>     > >      ...
>     > >      15 - Channel 16
>     > >      (sound plays)
>     > >
>     > >    On 6.19-rc6 (fails):
>     > >      0 - Front Left
>     > >      Write error: -5,Input/output error
>     > >
>     > >    Device info:
>     > >      USB ID: 1235:821b
>     > >      FCP driver loads OK: "Focusrite Control Protocol Driver ready"
>     > >      Implicit Feedback Mode: Yes
>     > >      No errors in dmesg
>     > >
>     > >    /proc/asound/card3/stream0:
>     > >      Format: S32_LE
>     > >      Channels: 18
>     > >      Endpoint: 0x01 (1 OUT) (ASYNC)
>     > >      Rates: 44100, 48000
>     > >      Sync Endpoint: 0x81 (1 IN)
>     > >      Implicit Feedback Mode: Yes
>     > >
>     > >    Note: This might get fixed on its own when mainline is updated
>     further
>     > >    before
>     > >    the stable 6.19 release. I'm just reporting this in case it
>     doesn't, so
>     > >    you're
>     > >    aware of a potential issue that could affect users when 6.19
>     changes
>     > >    eventually
>     > >    land in stable kernels.
>     > >
>     > >    Let me know if you need any additional info or testing.
>     > >
>     > >    Thanks for maintaining the Scarlett driver!
>     > >
>     > >    Best regards,
>     > >    Ruslan Garynin
>    
>     Could you check whether the earlier 6.19-rc shows the same problem?
>     Also check the very latest Linus tree, too.
> 
>     Takashi
> 

Re: Scarlett 16i16 4th Gen: I/O error on kernel 6.19-rc6 (works on 6.18)

[Ruslan Garynin]

Hi Takashi,

I can confirm the fix works!

I applied commit 70b4db7d258118a7464f039112a74ddb49a95b06
("ALSA: usb-audio: Use the right limit for PCM OOB check")
on top of 6.19-rc6 and rebuilt the kernel.

Test result:
- Before patch: "Write error: -5, Input/output error" on first channel
- After patch: All 18 channels play successfully

Thank you for the quick fix!

Tested-by: Ruslan Garynin <ufurifkf@gmail.com>

Regards,
Ruslan Garynin

Regards,
Ruslan.


On Sun, Jan 25, 2026 at 2:07 PM Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 25 Jan 2026 09:59:00 +0100,
> Ruslan Garynin wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Takashi,
> >
> > I checked my pacman logs and found that:
> >
> > - Working version: 6.19-rc3
> > - Broken version: 6.19-rc6
> >
> > The upgrade from rc3 to rc6 happened on 2026-01-23.
> >
> > I will try to rebuild and test rc4 and rc5 to narrow down
> > exactly which version introduced the regression.
> >
> > Will report back with the results.
>
> If it worked, it might be the recent fix that landed in rc6, and this
> was corrected in Linus tree for the upcoming rc7 via commit
> 70b4db7d258118a7464f039112a74ddb49a95b06
>     ALSA: usb-audio: Use the right limit for PCM OOB check
>
> So please check the Linus tree or cherry-pick the commit above.
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Takashi
>
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ruslan Garynin
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 25, 2026 at 1:44 PM Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> >
> >     On Sat, 24 Jan 2026 17:24:07 +0100,
> >     Geoffrey D. Bennett wrote:
> >     >
> >     > Hi Ruslan,
> >     >
> >     > Audio playback for Focusrite USB interfaces is handled by the generic
> >     > USB audio driver (snd-usb-audio); the FCP driver I maintain only
> >     > handles the control protocol (mixer, routing, etc.) over a separate
> >     > USB endpoint — it's not involved in the actual audio data transfer.
> >     >
> >     > I've CC'd the ALSA maintainers and linux-sound list to continue the
> >     > discussion there.
> >     >
> >     > Regards,
> >     > Geoffrey.
> >     >
> >     > On Sat, Jan 24, 2026 at 08:56:38PM +0500, Ruslan Garynin wrote:
> >     > >    Hi Geoffrey,
> >     > >
> >     > >    I found a regression affecting Scarlett 16i16 4th Gen playback on
> >     kernel
> >     > >    6.19-rc6.
> >     > >
> >     > >    Summary:
> >     > >    - Working: 6.18.6-zen1-1-zen
> >     > >    - Broken: 6.19.0-rc6-1-mainline
> >     > >    - Issue: I/O error on USB audio playback
> >     > >    - HDA/HDMI audio works fine on 6.19-rc6, so it's USB audio specific
> >     > >
> >     > >    Test:
> >     > >      systemctl --user stop pipewire pipewire-pulse wireplumber
> >     > >      speaker-test -D hw:3 -c 18 -t sine -F S32_LE
> >     > >
> >     > >    On 6.18 (works):
> >     > >      0 - Front Left
> >     > >      1 - Front Right
> >     > >      ...
> >     > >      15 - Channel 16
> >     > >      (sound plays)
> >     > >
> >     > >    On 6.19-rc6 (fails):
> >     > >      0 - Front Left
> >     > >      Write error: -5,Input/output error
> >     > >
> >     > >    Device info:
> >     > >      USB ID: 1235:821b
> >     > >      FCP driver loads OK: "Focusrite Control Protocol Driver ready"
> >     > >      Implicit Feedback Mode: Yes
> >     > >      No errors in dmesg
> >     > >
> >     > >    /proc/asound/card3/stream0:
> >     > >      Format: S32_LE
> >     > >      Channels: 18
> >     > >      Endpoint: 0x01 (1 OUT) (ASYNC)
> >     > >      Rates: 44100, 48000
> >     > >      Sync Endpoint: 0x81 (1 IN)
> >     > >      Implicit Feedback Mode: Yes
> >     > >
> >     > >    Note: This might get fixed on its own when mainline is updated
> >     further
> >     > >    before
> >     > >    the stable 6.19 release. I'm just reporting this in case it
> >     doesn't, so
> >     > >    you're
> >     > >    aware of a potential issue that could affect users when 6.19
> >     changes
> >     > >    eventually
> >     > >    land in stable kernels.
> >     > >
> >     > >    Let me know if you need any additional info or testing.
> >     > >
> >     > >    Thanks for maintaining the Scarlett driver!
> >     > >
> >     > >    Best regards,
> >     > >    Ruslan Garynin
> >
> >     Could you check whether the earlier 6.19-rc shows the same problem?
> >     Also check the very latest Linus tree, too.
> >
> >     Takashi
> >