From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
Fiona Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com>,
qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, fam@euphon.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] aio-posix: notify main loop when SQEs are queued
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2026 16:49:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aZcw911iCiDHKWCp@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <07d701b9-3039-4f9b-99a2-abeae51146a5@kernel.dk>
Am 18.02.2026 um 17:41 hat Jens Axboe geschrieben:
> On 2/18/26 9:19 AM, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > On 2/18/26 9:11 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> >> On Wed, Feb 18, 2026 at 10:57:02AM +0100, Fiona Ebner wrote:
> >>> Am 13.02.26 um 5:05 PM schrieb Kevin Wolf:
> >>>> Am 13.02.2026 um 15:26 hat Jens Axboe geschrieben:
> >>>>> When a vCPU thread handles MMIO (holding BQL), aio_co_enter() runs the
> >>>>> block I/O coroutine inline on the vCPU thread because
> >>>>> qemu_get_current_aio_context() returns the main AioContext when BQL is
> >>>>> held. The coroutine calls luring_co_submit() which queues an SQE via
> >>>>> fdmon_io_uring_add_sqe(), but the actual io_uring_submit() only happens
> >>>>> in gsource_prepare() on the main loop thread.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ouch! Yes, looks like we completely missed I/O submitted in vCPU threads
> >>>> in the recent changes (or I guess worker threads in theory, but I don't
> >>>> think there any that actually make use of aio_add_sqe()).
> >>>>
> >>>>> Since the coroutine ran inline (not via aio_co_schedule()), no BH is
> >>>>> scheduled and aio_notify() is never called. The main loop remains asleep
> >>>>> in ppoll() with up to a 499ms timeout, leaving the SQE unsubmitted until
> >>>>> the next timer fires.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Fix this by calling aio_notify() after queuing the SQE. This wakes the
> >>>>> main loop via the eventfd so it can run gsource_prepare() and submit the
> >>>>> pending SQE promptly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is a generic fix that benefits all devices using aio=io_uring.
> >>>>> Without it, AHCI/SATA devices see MUCH worse I/O latency since they use
> >>>>> MMIO (not ioeventfd like virtio) and have no other mechanism to wake the
> >>>>> main loop after queuing block I/O.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is usually a bit hard to detect, as it also relies on the ppoll
> >>>>> loop not waking up for other activity, and micro benchmarks tend not to
> >>>>> see it because they don't have any real processing time. With a
> >>>>> synthetic test case that has a few usleep() to simulate processing of
> >>>>> read data, it's very noticeable. The below example reads 128MB with
> >>>>> O_DIRECT in 128KB chunks in batches of 16, and has a 1ms delay before
> >>>>> each batch submit, and a 1ms delay after processing each completion.
> >>>>> Running it on /dev/sda yields:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> time sudo ./iotest /dev/sda
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ________________________________________________________
> >>>>> Executed in 25.76 secs fish external
> >>>>> usr time 6.19 millis 783.00 micros 5.41 millis
> >>>>> sys time 12.43 millis 642.00 micros 11.79 millis
> >>>>>
> >>>>> while on a virtio-blk or NVMe device we get:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> time sudo ./iotest /dev/vdb
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ________________________________________________________
> >>>>> Executed in 1.25 secs fish external
> >>>>> usr time 1.40 millis 0.30 millis 1.10 millis
> >>>>> sys time 17.61 millis 1.43 millis 16.18 millis
> >>>>>
> >>>>> time sudo ./iotest /dev/nvme0n1
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ________________________________________________________
> >>>>> Executed in 1.26 secs fish external
> >>>>> usr time 6.11 millis 0.52 millis 5.59 millis
> >>>>> sys time 13.94 millis 1.50 millis 12.43 millis
> >>>>>
> >>>>> where the latter are consistent. If we run the same test but keep the
> >>>>> socket for the ssh connection active by having activity there, then
> >>>>> the sda test looks as follows:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> time sudo ./iotest /dev/sda
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ________________________________________________________
> >>>>> Executed in 1.23 secs fish external
> >>>>> usr time 2.70 millis 39.00 micros 2.66 millis
> >>>>> sys time 4.97 millis 977.00 micros 3.99 millis
> >>>>>
> >>>>> as now the ppoll loop is woken all the time anyway.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> After this fix, on an idle system:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> time sudo ./iotest /dev/sda
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ________________________________________________________
> >>>>> Executed in 1.30 secs fish external
> >>>>> usr time 2.14 millis 0.14 millis 2.00 millis
> >>>>> sys time 16.93 millis 1.16 millis 15.76 millis
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Signed-off-by: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
> >>>>> ---
> >>>>> util/fdmon-io_uring.c | 8 ++++++++
> >>>>> 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> diff --git a/util/fdmon-io_uring.c b/util/fdmon-io_uring.c
> >>>>> index d0b56127c670..96392876b490 100644
> >>>>> --- a/util/fdmon-io_uring.c
> >>>>> +++ b/util/fdmon-io_uring.c
> >>>>> @@ -181,6 +181,14 @@ static void fdmon_io_uring_add_sqe(AioContext *ctx,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> trace_fdmon_io_uring_add_sqe(ctx, opaque, sqe->opcode, sqe->fd, sqe->off,
> >>>>> cqe_handler);
> >>>>> +
> >>>>> + /*
> >>>>> + * Wake the main loop if it is sleeping in ppoll(). When a vCPU thread
> >>>>> + * runs a coroutine inline (holding BQL), it queues SQEs here but the
> >>>>> + * actual io_uring_submit() only happens in gsource_prepare(). Without
> >>>>> + * this notify, ppoll() can sleep up to 499ms before submitting.
> >>>>> + */
> >>>>> + aio_notify(ctx);
> >>>>> }
> >>>>
> >>>> Makes sense to me.
> >>>>
> >>>> At first I wondered if we should use defer_call() for the aio_notify()
> >>>> to batch the submission, but of course holding the BQL will already take
> >>>> care of that. And in iothreads where there is no BQL, the aio_notify()
> >>>> shouldn't make a difference anyway because we're already in the right
> >>>> thread.
> >>>>
> >>>> I suppose the other variation could be have another io_uring_enter()
> >>>> call here (but then probably really through defer_call()) to avoid
> >>>> waiting for another CPU to submit the request in its main loop. But I
> >>>> don't really have an intuition if that would make things better or worse
> >>>> in the common case.
> >>>>
> >>>> Fiona, does this fix your case, too?
> >>>
> >>> Yes, it does fix my issue [0] and the second patch gives another small
> >>> improvement :)
> >>>
> >>> Would it be slightly cleaner to have aio_add_sqe() call aio_notify()
> >>> itself? Since aio-posix.c calls downwards into fdmon-io_uring.c, it
> >>> would feel nicer to me to not have fdmon-io_uring.c call "back up". I
> >>> guess it also depends on whether we expect another future fdmon
> >>> implementation with .add_sqe() to also benefit from it.
> >>
> >> Calling aio_notify() from aio-posix.c:aio_add_sqe() sounds better to me
> >> because fdmon-io_uring.c has to be careful about calling aio_*() APIs to
> >> avoid loops.
> >
> > Would anyone care to make that edit? I'm on a plane and gone for a bit,
> > so won't get back to this for the next week. But I would love to see a
> > fix go in, as this issue has been plaguing me with test timeouts for
> > quite a while on the CI front. And seems like I'm not alone, if the
> > patches fix Fiona's issues as well.
>
> Still on a plane but tested this one and it works for me too. Does seem
> like a better approach, rather than stuff it in the fdmon part.
>
> Feel free to run with this one and also to update the commit message if
> you want. Thanks!
>
>
> commit a8a94e7a05964d470b8fba50c9d4769489c21752
> Author: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
> Date: Fri Feb 13 06:52:14 2026 -0700
>
> aio-posix: notify main loop when SQEs are queued
>
> When a vCPU thread handles MMIO (holding BQL), aio_co_enter() runs the
> block I/O coroutine inline on the vCPU thread because
> qemu_get_current_aio_context() returns the main AioContext when BQL is
> held. The coroutine calls luring_co_submit() which queues an SQE via
> fdmon_io_uring_add_sqe(), but the actual io_uring_submit() only happens
> in gsource_prepare() on the main loop thread.
>
> Since the coroutine ran inline (not via aio_co_schedule()), no BH is
> scheduled and aio_notify() is never called. The main loop remains asleep
> in ppoll() with up to a 499ms timeout, leaving the SQE unsubmitted until
> the next timer fires.
>
> Fix this by calling aio_notify() after queuing the SQE. This wakes the
> main loop via the eventfd so it can run gsource_prepare() and submit the
> pending SQE promptly.
>
> This is a generic fix that benefits all devices using aio=io_uring.
> Without it, AHCI/SATA devices see MUCH worse I/O latency since they use
> MMIO (not ioeventfd like virtio) and have no other mechanism to wake the
> main loop after queuing block I/O.
>
> This is usually a bit hard to detect, as it also relies on the ppoll
> loop not waking up for other activity, and micro benchmarks tend not to
> see it because they don't have any real processing time. With a
> synthetic test case that has a few usleep() to simulate processing of
> read data, it's very noticeable. The below example reads 128MB with
> O_DIRECT in 128KB chunks in batches of 16, and has a 1ms delay before
> each batch submit, and a 1ms delay after processing each completion.
> Running it on /dev/sda yields:
>
> time sudo ./iotest /dev/sda
>
> ________________________________________________________
> Executed in 25.76 secs fish external
> usr time 6.19 millis 783.00 micros 5.41 millis
> sys time 12.43 millis 642.00 micros 11.79 millis
>
> while on a virtio-blk or NVMe device we get:
>
> time sudo ./iotest /dev/vdb
>
> ________________________________________________________
> Executed in 1.25 secs fish external
> usr time 1.40 millis 0.30 millis 1.10 millis
> sys time 17.61 millis 1.43 millis 16.18 millis
>
> time sudo ./iotest /dev/nvme0n1
>
> ________________________________________________________
> Executed in 1.26 secs fish external
> usr time 6.11 millis 0.52 millis 5.59 millis
> sys time 13.94 millis 1.50 millis 12.43 millis
>
> where the latter are consistent. If we run the same test but keep the
> socket for the ssh connection active by having activity there, then
> the sda test looks as follows:
>
> time sudo ./iotest /dev/sda
>
> ________________________________________________________
> Executed in 1.23 secs fish external
> usr time 2.70 millis 39.00 micros 2.66 millis
> sys time 4.97 millis 977.00 micros 3.99 millis
>
> as now the ppoll loop is woken all the time anyway.
>
> After this fix, on an idle system:
>
> time sudo ./iotest /dev/sda
>
> ________________________________________________________
> Executed in 1.30 secs fish external
> usr time 2.14 millis 0.14 millis 2.00 millis
> sys time 16.93 millis 1.16 millis 15.76 millis
>
> Signed-off-by: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
>
> diff --git a/util/aio-posix.c b/util/aio-posix.c
> index e24b955fd91a..8c7b3795c82d 100644
> --- a/util/aio-posix.c
> +++ b/util/aio-posix.c
> @@ -813,5 +813,13 @@ void aio_add_sqe(void (*prep_sqe)(struct io_uring_sqe *sqe, void *opaque),
> {
> AioContext *ctx = qemu_get_current_aio_context();
> ctx->fdmon_ops->add_sqe(ctx, prep_sqe, opaque, cqe_handler);
> +
> + /*
> + * Wake the main loop if it is sleeping in ppoll(). When a vCPU thread
> + * runs a coroutine inline (holding BQL), it queues SQEs here but the
I think the comment could even be more generic here. This is not
specific to coroutines, but the scenario is just that a vCPU thread
holding the BQL performs I/O.
> + * actual io_uring_submit() only happens in gsource_prepare(). Without
> + * this notify, ppoll() can sleep up to 499ms before submitting.
> + */
> + aio_notify(ctx);
> }
> #endif /* CONFIG_LINUX_IO_URING */
With or without a changed comment to that effect:
Reviewed-by: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-19 15:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-13 14:26 [PATCHSET 0/2] io_uring fixes Jens Axboe
2026-02-13 14:26 ` [PATCH 1/2] fdmon-io_uring: notify main loop when SQEs are queued Jens Axboe
2026-02-13 16:04 ` Kevin Wolf
2026-02-18 9:57 ` Fiona Ebner
2026-02-18 16:06 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-02-18 16:17 ` Jens Axboe
2026-02-18 20:02 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-02-18 16:11 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-02-18 16:19 ` Jens Axboe
2026-02-18 16:41 ` [PATCH v2] aio-posix: " Jens Axboe
2026-02-18 20:57 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-02-19 14:27 ` Jens Axboe
2026-02-19 15:49 ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2026-02-23 13:53 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-02-18 15:56 ` [PATCH 1/2] fdmon-io_uring: " Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-02-13 14:26 ` [PATCH 2/2] fdmon-io_uring: check CQ ring directly in gsource_check Jens Axboe
2026-02-13 16:22 ` Kevin Wolf
2026-02-18 16:24 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-02-18 10:07 ` [PATCHSET 0/2] io_uring fixes Fiona Ebner
2026-03-03 11:52 ` Fiona Ebner
2026-03-03 16:51 ` Jens Axboe
2026-03-08 12:11 ` Michael Tokarev
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