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From: Sabrina Dubroca <sd@queasysnail.net>
To: Yan Yan <evitayan@google.com>
Cc: Antony Antony <antony.antony@secunet.com>,
	Steffen Klassert <steffen.klassert@secunet.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, "David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Chiachang Wang <chiachangwang@google.com>,
	devel@linux-ipsec.org, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	Stephen Smalley <stephen.smalley.work@gmail.com>,
	Ondrej Mosnacek <omosnace@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, selinux@vger.kernel.org,
	Nathan Harold <nharold@google.com>
Subject: Re: [devel-ipsec] Re: [PATCH ipsec-next v5 8/8] xfrm: add XFRM_MSG_MIGRATE_STATE for single SA migration
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2026 12:26:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aaF_SAQj4WT8jRaO@krikkit> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADHa2dAxVFQULCKnsjSmSPrK+VTJyyT-5P5BAYGdhO5wKDKqig@mail.gmail.com>

2026-02-26, 17:44:51 -0800, Yan Yan via Devel wrote:
> Hi Antony,
> 
> May I request that we also support updating the XFRMA_SET_MARK as part
> of the new XFRM_MSG_MIGRATE_STATE message?
> 
> In Android, the primary use case for migration is switching the
> underlying physical network for an IPsec tunnel (e.g. VPN, Wifi
> calling). Currently, due to the limits of XFRM_MSG_MIGRATE, we are
> forced to use a separate UPDSA call to update the set-mark. Supporting
> XFRMA_SET_MARK within the migrate message would allow us to update the
> addresses and the routing mark together in one atomic call.
> 
> Regarding the logic, I believe the set-mark can follow the same
> omit-to-clear pattern as XFRMA_ENCAP and XFRMA_OFFLOAD_DEV.

I think this raises a wider question: clearly definining and
documenting which attributes need to be explicitly provided
("omit-to-clear" as you write), and which will be implicitly copied.

Currently it looks like we copy:
 - all the crypto stuff (aalg/aead/etc)
 - security context stuff
 - coaddr
 - replay/replay_esn
 - pcpu_num, if_id, tfcpad
 - dir
 - mark
 - extra_flags

but not
 - nat_keepalive_interval
 - offload
 - encap

[gathered from a quick read of xfrm_state_clone_and_setup + the
definition of xfrma_policy]

Anything that we leave as implicit copy will have to be "forever"
implicitly copied with this new MIGRATE_STATE op -- unless we find a
way to pass a new "clear these properties" flag (probably via a list
of XFRMA_* attribute names), but then we could also implement that
with the existing MIGRATE code.

-- 
Sabrina

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-27 11:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-27 10:41 [PATCH ipsec-next v5 0/8] xfrm: XFRM_MSG_MIGRATE_STATE new netlink message Antony Antony
2026-01-27 10:42 ` [PATCH ipsec-next v5 1/8] xfrm: add missing __rcu annotation to nlsk Antony Antony
2026-02-26 17:07   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2026-03-05  7:46     ` [devel-ipsec] " Antony Antony
2026-01-27 10:42 ` [PATCH ipsec-next v5 2/8] xfrm: remove redundant assignments Antony Antony
2026-01-27 10:42 ` [PATCH ipsec-next v5 3/8] xfrm: allow migration from UDP encapsulated to non-encapsulated ESP Antony Antony
2026-01-30 11:28   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2026-02-02 12:57     ` Antony Antony
     [not found]       ` <CADhJOfbkUFaPfxTBrmOnrEh2JvxPKpkxaRrSdJHZGxeoQsQTcw@mail.gmail.com>
2026-02-02 19:38         ` [devel-ipsec] " Antony Antony
2026-02-24  3:28           ` Yan Yan
2026-02-26 15:41             ` Antony Antony
2026-03-06  2:49               ` Yan Yan
2026-01-27 10:42 ` [PATCH ipsec-next v5 4/8] xfrm: rename reqid in xfrm_migrate Antony Antony
2026-01-27 10:43 ` [PATCH ipsec-next v5 5/8] xfrm: split xfrm_state_migrate into create and install functions Antony Antony
2026-01-27 10:43 ` [PATCH ipsec-next v5 7/8] xfrm: add error messages to state migration Antony Antony
2026-01-30 12:14   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2026-02-26 15:43     ` [devel-ipsec] " Antony Antony
2026-02-26 16:59       ` Sabrina Dubroca
2026-03-02 14:06         ` Antony Antony
2026-01-27 10:44 ` [PATCH ipsec-next v5 8/8] xfrm: add XFRM_MSG_MIGRATE_STATE for single SA migration Antony Antony
2026-02-03 21:25   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2026-02-26 15:46     ` Antony Antony
2026-02-26 18:05       ` Sabrina Dubroca
2026-03-02 14:21         ` [devel-ipsec] " Antony Antony
2026-02-27  1:44   ` Yan Yan
2026-02-27 11:26     ` Sabrina Dubroca [this message]
2026-02-27 23:14       ` [devel-ipsec] " Yan Yan
2026-03-08 14:42         ` Antony Antony
2026-03-10 11:09           ` Sabrina Dubroca
2026-03-10 16:52             ` Antony Antony
2026-03-14  0:32               ` Yan Yan
2026-04-07 13:29                 ` Antony Antony
2026-03-05  7:51     ` Antony Antony
2026-01-27 10:50 ` [PATCH ipsec-next v5 6/8] xfrm: add state synchronization after migration Antony Antony

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