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From: Dmitry Ilvokhin <d@ilvokhin.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Yuanchu Xie <yuanchu@google.com>, Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@kernel.org>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/5] mm: zone lock tracepoint instrumentation
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2026 17:40:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <abhAoF5EpiPigsx7@shell.ilvokhin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260309171700.063318b5@gandalf.local.home>

Thanks for the discussion and for the feedback on generic lock
instrumentation.

Following up on the earlier points about lightweight LOCK_STAT and
tracepoints.

While the thread has focused on spin_lock() calls, the real gap is on
the unlock path: there is currently no release-side tracepoint to
correlate holders and waiters or measure contended hold times.

A possible generic solution is a trace_contended_release() for spin
locks, for example:

    if (trace_contended_release_enabled() &&
        atomic_read(&lock->val) & ~_Q_LOCKED_MASK)
        trace_contended_release(lock);

This might work on x86, but could increase code size and regress
performance on arches where spin_unlock() is inlined, such as arm64
under !PREEMPTION.

So even a generic release-side tracepoint has nontrivial downsides (not
to mention lightweight LOCK_STAT, since a disabled tracepoint is about
as lightweight as it gets, the more stats we add, the less lightweight
the mechanism becomes).

The zone lock wrappers provide a practical, production-safe solution to
observe this specific high-contention lock, if the generic approach
proves impractical.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-16 17:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-27 16:00 [PATCH v4 0/5] mm: zone lock tracepoint instrumentation Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-02-27 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] mm: introduce zone lock wrappers Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-02-27 20:36   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-28  1:13   ` Zi Yan
2026-02-28 16:23   ` SeongJae Park
2026-03-02 13:34   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-02-27 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] mm: convert zone lock users to wrappers Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-02-27 20:39   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-02 15:22     ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-02-28  1:14   ` Zi Yan
2026-03-02 13:42   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-02-27 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] mm: convert compaction to zone lock wrappers Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-02-27 20:39   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-28  1:16   ` Zi Yan
2026-02-28 16:31   ` SeongJae Park
2026-03-02 14:02   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-02-27 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] mm: rename zone->lock to zone->_lock Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-02-27 20:40   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-28  1:17   ` Zi Yan
2026-03-02 14:10   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-02 22:37     ` Andrew Morton
2026-03-03 14:25       ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-03-04  1:50         ` SeongJae Park
2026-03-04 13:01           ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-03-04 15:13             ` SeongJae Park
2026-03-04 15:17               ` SeongJae Park
2026-03-05  9:27               ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-05 14:55                 ` SeongJae Park
2026-03-05 18:16                 ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-03-05 18:59                   ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-03-06  1:20                     ` SeongJae Park
2026-03-06  8:05                     ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-06 10:30   ` Pedro Falcato
2026-02-27 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] mm: add tracepoints for zone lock Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-02-27 19:46   ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-02 15:18     ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-03-02 14:16   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-09 13:10 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] mm: zone lock tracepoint instrumentation Matthew Wilcox
2026-03-09 14:21   ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-03-09 14:47     ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-03-09 19:13       ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-09 20:45         ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-03-09 21:17           ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-16 17:40             ` Dmitry Ilvokhin [this message]
2026-03-19 13:22               ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-03-24 23:39                 ` Andrew Morton
2026-03-25 12:14                   ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-03-25 14:19                     ` Steven Rostedt

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