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From: Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, akpm@osdl.org
Subject: Re: RDMA will be reverted
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 09:54:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <adawtazgawi.fsf@cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060628.000715.95062023.davem@davemloft.net> (David Miller's message of "Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:07:15 -0700 (PDT)")

    David> Roland, there is no way in the world we would have let
    David> support for RDMA into the kernel tree had we seen and
    David> reviewed it on netdev.  I've discussed this with Andrew
    David> Morton, and we'd like you to please revert all of the RDMA
    David> code from Linus's tree immedialtely.

    David> Folks are well aware how against RDMA and TOE type schemes
    David> the Linux networking developers are.  So the fact that none
    David> of these RDMA changes went up for review on netdev strikes
    David> me as just a little bit more than suspicious.

[I'm really on paternity leave, but this was brought to my attention
and seems important enough to respond to]

Dave, you're going to have to be more specific.  What do you mean by
RDMA?  The whole drivers/infiniband infrastructure, which handles RDMA
over IB, has been upstream for a year and a half, and was in fact
originally merged by you, so I'm guessing that's not what you mean.

If you're talking about the "RDMA CM" (drivers/infiniband/core/cma.c
et al) that was just merged, then you should be aware that that was
posted by Sean Hefty to netdev for review, multiple times (eg a quick
search finds <http://lwn.net/Articles/170202/>).  It is true that the
intention of the abstraction is to provide a common mechanism for
handling IB and iWARP (RDMA/TCP) connections, but at the moment no
iWARP code is upstream.  Right now all it does is allow IP addressing
to be used for IB connections.

In any case I think we need to find a way for Linux to support iWARP
hardware, since there are users that want this, and (some of) the
vendors are working hard to do things the right way (including cc'ing
netdev on the conversation).  I don't think it's good for Linux for
the answer to just be, "sorry, you're wrong to want to use that hardware."

 - Roland

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-06-29 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-28  7:07 RDMA will be reverted David Miller
2006-06-28  7:41 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-28 14:56 ` Tom Tucker
2006-06-28 15:01 ` Steve Wise
2006-06-29 16:54 ` Roland Dreier [this message]
2006-06-29 17:32   ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2006-06-29 17:35     ` Roland Dreier
2006-06-29 17:40       ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2006-06-29 19:46   ` David Miller
2006-06-29 20:11     ` Tom Tucker
2006-06-29 20:16       ` Tom Tucker
2006-06-29 20:19       ` David Miller
2006-06-29 20:47         ` Tom Tucker
2006-06-29 20:53           ` David Miller
2006-06-29 21:28             ` Tom Tucker
2006-06-29 21:25         ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-29 20:42       ` James Morris
2006-06-30 20:51     ` Roland Dreier
2006-06-30 21:16       ` David Miller
2006-06-30 23:01         ` Tom Tucker
2006-07-01 14:26           ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-04 18:34             ` Andy Gay
2006-07-04 20:47               ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-04 22:22                 ` Andy Gay
2006-07-04 23:01                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-04 23:48                     ` Andy Gay
2006-07-05  0:04                       ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-04 20:34             ` Roland Dreier
2006-07-24 22:06               ` David Miller
2006-07-24 23:10                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-24 23:22                   ` David Miller
2006-07-25  0:02                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-25  0:29                       ` Rick Jones
2006-07-25  0:45                         ` David Miller
2006-07-25  0:55                           ` Rick Jones
2006-07-25  1:04                             ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-25  1:21                             ` David Miller
2006-07-25 16:29                               ` Rick Jones
2006-07-25 16:32                                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-25  1:03                           ` Rick Jones
2006-07-25  1:42                         ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-25  5:51                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-25  6:48                   ` David Miller
2006-07-25  6:59                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-25  7:33                       ` David Miller
2006-07-25  7:42                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-05 17:09             ` Tom Tucker
2006-07-05 17:50               ` Steve Wise
2006-07-24 22:25                 ` David Miller
2006-07-24 22:47                   ` Caitlin Bestler
2006-07-24 22:23               ` David Miller
2006-07-24 22:57                 ` Caitlin Bestler
2006-07-01 21:45           ` David Miller
2006-07-04 20:34             ` Roland Dreier
2006-07-05 18:27               ` David Miller
2006-07-05 20:29                 ` Roland Dreier
2006-07-06  3:03                   ` David Miller
2006-07-06  5:25                     ` Tom Tucker
2006-07-06 14:08                       ` Herbert Xu
2006-07-06 17:36                         ` Tom Tucker
2006-07-07  0:03                           ` Herbert Xu
2006-07-07  0:32                             ` Tom Tucker
2006-07-07  6:53                       ` David Miller
2006-07-07  8:11                         ` What is RDMA (was: RDMA will be reverted) Herbert Xu
2006-07-07 18:25                           ` Steve Wise
2006-07-11  8:17                             ` Herbert Xu
2006-07-11 13:27                               ` Steve Wise
2006-07-24 22:29                           ` What is RDMA David Miller
2006-07-24 22:34                             ` Rick Jones
2006-07-24 22:39                               ` David Miller
2006-07-24 22:49                               ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-07 13:29                         ` RDMA will be reverted Tom Tucker
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-07-06 13:26 Caitlin Bestler
2006-07-25 19:59 Tom Tucker

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