* Replacement GPG key for Lorenzo Stoakes
@ 2026-04-21 8:40 Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-21 8:46 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-21 21:43 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Lorenzo Stoakes @ 2026-04-21 8:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: keys
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Hi all,
TL;DR here is that I managed to lose my private key, and need to replace
it.
So my old key, 5BEF5562908102FB56727B7CC52D7AFE85F25509, is entirely
lost. I have a revocation certificate for that which I will be issuing
shortly.
The new key is E7F417BF5214569E89D04F46CF9DCD8A81E27F14.
Due to losing the ability to sign from the original, I cannot cross-sign it
with the old.
So to establish the required trust, I had the new key signed by people with
the requisite level of trust. I attach the key here.
Could you please remove the old and replace it with the new?
(Apologies for this, I have obviously learned some lessons here :)
Thanks, Lorenzo
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* Re: Replacement GPG key for Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-21 8:40 Replacement GPG key for Lorenzo Stoakes Lorenzo Stoakes
@ 2026-04-21 8:46 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-21 21:43 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Lorenzo Stoakes @ 2026-04-21 8:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: keys
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On Tue, Apr 21, 2026 at 09:40:19AM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> So my old key, 5BEF5562908102FB56727B7CC52D7AFE85F25509, is entirely
> lost. I have a revocation certificate for that which I will be issuing
> shortly.
That is now done, I attach the exported key with revocation issued for
completeness.
Thanks, Lorenzo
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-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
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* Re: Replacement GPG key for Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-21 8:40 Replacement GPG key for Lorenzo Stoakes Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-21 8:46 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
@ 2026-04-21 21:43 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-04-22 9:19 ` Uwe Kleine-König
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Konstantin Ryabitsev @ 2026-04-21 21:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lorenzo Stoakes; +Cc: keys
On Tue, Apr 21, 2026 at 09:40:15AM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> TL;DR here is that I managed to lose my private key, and need to replace
> it.
>
> So my old key, 5BEF5562908102FB56727B7CC52D7AFE85F25509, is entirely
> lost. I have a revocation certificate for that which I will be issuing
> shortly.
>
> The new key is E7F417BF5214569E89D04F46CF9DCD8A81E27F14.
>
> Due to losing the ability to sign from the original, I cannot cross-sign it
> with the old.
>
> So to establish the required trust, I had the new key signed by people with
> the requisite level of trust. I attach the key here.
>
> Could you please remove the old and replace it with the new?
Done now. Thanks!
-K
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Replacement GPG key for Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-21 21:43 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
@ 2026-04-22 9:19 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-04-22 13:39 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Uwe Kleine-König @ 2026-04-22 9:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Konstantin Ryabitsev; +Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes, keys
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1234 bytes --]
Hello Konstantin,
On Tue, Apr 21, 2026 at 05:43:11PM -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2026 at 09:40:15AM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > TL;DR here is that I managed to lose my private key, and need to replace
> > it.
> >
> > So my old key, 5BEF5562908102FB56727B7CC52D7AFE85F25509, is entirely
> > lost. I have a revocation certificate for that which I will be issuing
> > shortly.
> >
> > The new key is E7F417BF5214569E89D04F46CF9DCD8A81E27F14.
> >
> > Due to losing the ability to sign from the original, I cannot cross-sign it
> > with the old.
> >
> > So to establish the required trust, I had the new key signed by people with
> > the requisite level of trust. I attach the key here.
> >
> > Could you please remove the old and replace it with the new?
>
> Done now. Thanks!
I see you removed the old key from Lorenzo. I wonder if it would make
sense to add the revoked key instead of deleting it to spread the
information that it shouldn't be used any more.
wotmate's export-keyring.py in it's current version however cannot do
that, because (I think) the revoked cert isn't considered at all and
thus C52D7AFE85F25509.asc doesn't get updated.
Best regards
Uwe
[-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 488 bytes --]
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Replacement GPG key for Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-22 9:19 ` Uwe Kleine-König
@ 2026-04-22 13:39 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-04-22 22:09 ` Uwe Kleine-König
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Konstantin Ryabitsev @ 2026-04-22 13:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Uwe Kleine-König; +Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes, keys
On Wed, Apr 22, 2026 at 11:19:36AM +0200, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> > > So to establish the required trust, I had the new key signed by people with
> > > the requisite level of trust. I attach the key here.
> > >
> > > Could you please remove the old and replace it with the new?
> >
> > Done now. Thanks!
>
> I see you removed the old key from Lorenzo. I wonder if it would make
> sense to add the revoked key instead of deleting it to spread the
> information that it shouldn't be used any more.
If the key is lost, then this serves very little practical purpose, beyond
advertising that the old encryption subkey should not be used. Since we almost
never use encryption anyway (just attestation), then this is just effort for
very little gain.
-K
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Replacement GPG key for Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-22 13:39 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
@ 2026-04-22 22:09 ` Uwe Kleine-König
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Uwe Kleine-König @ 2026-04-22 22:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Konstantin Ryabitsev; +Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes, keys
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1593 bytes --]
Hello Konstantin,
On Wed, Apr 22, 2026 at 09:39:13AM -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2026 at 11:19:36AM +0200, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> > > > So to establish the required trust, I had the new key signed by people with
> > > > the requisite level of trust. I attach the key here.
> > > >
> > > > Could you please remove the old and replace it with the new?
> > >
> > > Done now. Thanks!
> >
> > I see you removed the old key from Lorenzo. I wonder if it would make
> > sense to add the revoked key instead of deleting it to spread the
> > information that it shouldn't be used any more.
>
> If the key is lost, then this serves very little practical purpose, beyond
> advertising that the old encryption subkey should not be used. Since we almost
> never use encryption anyway (just attestation), then this is just effort for
> very little gain.
The effort however is also very low, it's just:
gpg --import revoked.asc
{
gpg --list-options show-notations,no-show-uid-validity --with-subkey-fingerprints --list-key C52D7AFE85F25509;
gpg -a --export --allow-weak-digest-algos --allow-weak-key-signatures --export-options export-attributes,export-clean C52D7AFE85F25509;
} > keys/C52D7AFE85F25509.asc
git commit -m 'Add revoked key C52D7AFE85F25509 (Lorenzo Stoakes)' keys/C52D7AFE85F25509.asc
Distributing the revokation also has the advantage that if someone
wonders why they see an attestation from Lorenzo using a new key, the
revokation gives a good additional indication that the new key is
legitimate.
Best regards
Uwe
[-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 488 bytes --]
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