Debian maintainer does not forward bug reports

Debian maintainer does not forward bug reports

[Bjarni Ingi Gislason]

See

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=pciutils;dist=testing

-.-

  Additional remarks.

  Mails from me to "submit@bugs.debian.org" are no longer acknowledged.  A
Debian maintainer told me, that he would contact the mail administrator
about me not wanting to send bugs upstream.

-.-

From "/usr/share/doc/debian/bug-reporting.txt.gz":

  Don't file bugs upstream

   If you file a bug in Debian, don't send a copy to the upstream software
   maintainers yourself, as it is possible that the bug exists only in
   Debian. If necessary, the maintainer of the package will forward the
   bug upstream.

-.-

  For forwarding bug reports to upstream see:

https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#forward

-.-

  I do not send reports upstream if I have to get an account there.
The Debian maintainers have one already.

  If I get a negative (or no) response from upstream, I send henceforth
bugs to Debian.

Re: Debian maintainer does not forward bug reports

[Martin Mareš]

Cc: Guillem who is the Debian maintainer of pciutils; see below for
context.

Let us go through all outstanding bugs filed against Debian pciutils:

> #887113		pciutils: lspci does not detect sound for nvidia MPC67 on Pavilion DV9720us
> #775453		/usr/bin/lspci: "lspci does not detect nvidia geforce 210M on Asus UL80Vt"

These are likely kernel issues. Since they are a decade old, we should
ask the submitter for testing on a recent kernel.

> #656925		failure to detect PCIe Gigabit LAN

Not a pciutils problem, probably a missing kernel driver. It's from
2012, so it should be tested with a recent kernel.

> #774063		pciutils: update-pciids changes md5sum of pci.ids

This is specific to Debian. Another alternative would be to make
update-pciids store the downloaded file to /usr/local/share and let
libpci prefer this file over the one if /usr/share if it exists.

> #595328		/usr/bin/lspci: lspci reports wrong video ram size

It's from 2010, so I am not sure if it's worth investigating.

When a bug like this is submitted, please ask the author to provide
the output of "lspci -vvxxx".

> #640239		/usr/bin/lspci: lspci -t (-v) doesn't show bridges

We have rewritten the whole tree display code since this version,
I hope that this problem does not exist any more.

> #870000		pciutils: Debian Stretch freeze when I use "lspci"

Very likely a hardware bug. If it should be worked around, the right
place is the kernel.

> #924237		lspci shows wrong/misleading string instead of "Device xxxx"

Interesting... can you ask the submitter if they can reproduce it
with current pciutils?

> #1087569	pcilmr.8: Some remarks and editorial changes for this man page
> #1087678	pcilib.7: Some remarks and editorial changes for this man page
> #1099040	setpci.8: Some remarks and a patch with editorial changes for this man page

Bjarni, I assume that these are the bugs that triggered your message.
I don't see any Debian patches to pciutils man pages, so I will apply
your patches upstream.

> #585146		lspci: query the database for specific vendor/device IDs

This could be useful. I will consider adding this feature.

> #929984		lspci: please make -nn the default

I admit that it would help in some cases, but on the other hand,
it would make the default output more cluttered, so I don't think
it's a clear win.

				Have a nice fortnight
-- 
Martin `MJ' Mareš                        <mj@ucw.cz>   http://mj.ucw.cz/
United Computer Wizards, Prague, Czech Republic, Europe, Earth, Universe

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> See
> 
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=pciutils;dist=testing
> 
> -.-
> 
>   Additional remarks.
> 
>   Mails from me to "submit@bugs.debian.org" are no longer acknowledged.  A
> Debian maintainer told me, that he would contact the mail administrator
> about me not wanting to send bugs upstream.
> 
> -.-
> 
> From "/usr/share/doc/debian/bug-reporting.txt.gz":
> 
>   Don't file bugs upstream
> 
>    If you file a bug in Debian, don't send a copy to the upstream software
>    maintainers yourself, as it is possible that the bug exists only in
>    Debian. If necessary, the maintainer of the package will forward the
>    bug upstream.
> 
> -.-
> 
>   For forwarding bug reports to upstream see:
> 
> https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#forward
> 
> -.-
> 
>   I do not send reports upstream if I have to get an account there.
> The Debian maintainers have one already.
> 
>   If I get a negative (or no) response from upstream, I send henceforth
> bugs to Debian.

Re: Debian maintainer does not forward bug reports

[Guillem Jover]

Hi!

On Wed, 2026-04-22 at 10:49:11 +0200, Martin Mareš wrote:
> Cc: Guillem who is the Debian maintainer of pciutils; see below for
> context.
> 
> Let us go through all outstanding bugs filed against Debian pciutils:

Ah, thanks for that. When I took over the package in Debian in 2019, I
had a brief look, but then never found the moment or forgot to really
go over all of them. :/

> > #887113		pciutils: lspci does not detect sound for nvidia MPC67 on Pavilion DV9720us
> > #775453		/usr/bin/lspci: "lspci does not detect nvidia geforce 210M on Asus UL80Vt"
> 
> These are likely kernel issues. Since they are a decade old, we should
> ask the submitter for testing on a recent kernel.

Ack, I've asked the reporters.

> > #656925		failure to detect PCIe Gigabit LAN
> 
> Not a pciutils problem, probably a missing kernel driver. It's from
> 2012, so it should be tested with a recent kernel.

Ack, I've asked the reporter.

> > #774063		pciutils: update-pciids changes md5sum of pci.ids
> 
> This is specific to Debian. Another alternative would be to make
> update-pciids store the downloaded file to /usr/local/share and let
> libpci prefer this file over the one if /usr/share if it exists.

I've had a couple of packaging changes for pciutils and pci.ids to switch
them to use alternatives:

  https://git.hadrons.org/cgit/debian/pkgs/pci.ids.git/log/?h=pu/alternatives
  https://git.hadrons.org/cgit/debian/pkgs/pciutils.git/log/?h=pu/alternatives

But never merged those, because then /usr/share/misc/pci.ids would
stop being known by dpkg, and then users cannot search for its owner.
Which is arguably a problem in dpkg itself, but…

At least the nice thing about the alternatives solution is that it defaults
to use the latest version of the file, where using a set of directories
(/var/lib/ comes to mind as perhaps better than /usr/local/share) with
fixed preferred order, would not have that property.

> > #595328		/usr/bin/lspci: lspci reports wrong video ram size
> 
> It's from 2010, so I am not sure if it's worth investigating.

I've closed this one as it was affecting a motherboard for 32-bit x86,
which Debian does not support anymore on real hardware.

> When a bug like this is submitted, please ask the author to provide
> the output of "lspci -vvxxx".

Thanks, I'll add a package script for reportbug to print a note to that
effect so that the submitter can see it in the template report to fill.

> > #640239		/usr/bin/lspci: lspci -t (-v) doesn't show bridges
> 
> We have rewritten the whole tree display code since this version,
> I hope that this problem does not exist any more.

I've closed this now, on your request.

> > #870000		pciutils: Debian Stretch freeze when I use "lspci"
> 
> Very likely a hardware bug. If it should be worked around, the right
> place is the kernel.

Ack, I've asked the reported whether this can still be reproduced.

> > #924237		lspci shows wrong/misleading string instead of "Device xxxx"
> 
> Interesting... can you ask the submitter if they can reproduce it
> with current pciutils?

Ack, done.

> > #1087569	pcilmr.8: Some remarks and editorial changes for this man page
> > #1087678	pcilib.7: Some remarks and editorial changes for this man page
> > #1099040	setpci.8: Some remarks and a patch with editorial changes for this man page
> 
> Bjarni, I assume that these are the bugs that triggered your message.
> I don't see any Debian patches to pciutils man pages, so I will apply
> your patches upstream.

Thanks, I think these just slipped through the cracks on my side.

> > #585146		lspci: query the database for specific vendor/device IDs
> 
> This could be useful. I will consider adding this feature.

Ah, great, let me know if you'd like a report filed upstream for
tracking.

> > #929984		lspci: please make -nn the default
> 
> I admit that it would help in some cases, but on the other hand,
> it would make the default output more cluttered, so I don't think
> it's a clear win.

Ack. I've closed this now.

Thanks,
Guillem

Re: Debian maintainer does not forward bug reports

[Martin Mareš]

> > > #585146		lspci: query the database for specific vendor/device IDs
> > 
> > This could be useful. I will consider adding this feature.
> 
> Ah, great, let me know if you'd like a report filed upstream for
> tracking.

Yes please.

				Martin