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From: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf.kernel@gmail.com>
To: Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@google.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	 Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	 Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@fomichev.me>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	 John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
	 Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>, Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
	 Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	 "David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	 Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	 Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>,
	Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuni1840@gmail.com>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org,  netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 bpf-next/net 1/5] ethtool: Introduce ETHTOOL_MSG_TSINFO_SET for virtual interfaces.
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2026 19:29:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aiy_eV7RP2nPlxmJ@devvm7509.cco0.facebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260613010039.1362312-2-kuniyu@google.com>

On 06/13, Kuniyuki Iwashima wrote:
> Before enabling SO_TIMESTAMPING, applications typically try to
> enable hardware timestamping on network interfaces via SIOCSHWTSTAMP
> (or ETHTOOL_MSG_TSCONFIG_SET).
> 
> The timestamping capability on an interface can be checked via
> ETHTOOL_MSG_TSINFO_GET:
> 
>   # ethtool -T eth0
>   Time stamping parameters for eth0:
>   Capabilities:
>   	hardware-transmit
>   	software-transmit
>   	hardware-receive
>   	software-receive
>   	software-system-clock
>   	hardware-raw-clock
>   PTP Hardware Clock: none
>   Hardware Transmit Timestamp Modes:
>   	off
>   	on
>   Hardware Receive Filter Modes:
>   	none
>   	all
> 
> These operations rely on the driver implementing two callbacks,
> dev->netdev_ops->ndo_hwtstamp_{get,set}().
> 
> However, among all virtual network interfaces, only bond and
> macvlan currently implement them.
> 
> As a result, most virtual interfaces cannot advertise the
> capabilities of their underlying devices:
> 
>   # ip link add ipvl0 link eth0 type ipvlan mode l2 bridge
>   # ethtool -T ipvl0
>   Time stamping parameters for ipvl0:
>   Capabilities:
>   	software-receive
>   	software-system-clock
>   PTP Hardware Clock: none
>   Hardware Transmit Timestamp Modes: none
>   Hardware Receive Filter Modes: none
> 
> While these callbacks could be implemented in each virtual
> interface, this approach is limited to those directly linked
> to a physical device.
> 
> Not all virtual interfaces are tied to real hardware; for
> instance, packets from UDP tunnel devices eventually pass
> through physical devices and can be hardware-timestamped there.
> 
> Let's allow configuring the hardware timestamping capability on
> virtual interfaces via ETHTOOL_MSG_TSINFO_SET.

I don't have a lot of state on this, but when adding xdp hw timestamping
I remember fighting a lot with those apis. Now we are adding another
one, but (seemingly?) for sw devices. Can you explain a bit more about
why can't existing SIOCGHWTSTAMP (or ETHTOOL_MSG_TSCONFIG_SET) fallback
to your new dev->tsinfo.enabled codepaths for the devices that
don't implement the ops?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-06-13  2:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-13  0:59 [PATCH v2 bpf-next/net 0/5] bpf: Support RX/TX HW timestamp proxy Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-06-13  0:59 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next/net 1/5] ethtool: Introduce ETHTOOL_MSG_TSINFO_SET for virtual interfaces Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-06-13  1:21   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-13  2:29   ` Stanislav Fomichev [this message]
2026-06-13  3:43     ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-06-13  0:59 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next/net 2/5] bpf: Rename bpf_kfunc_set_tcp_reqsk to bpf_kfunc_set_sched_cls Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-06-13  1:00 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next/net 3/5] bpf: Add bpf_skb_set_hwtstamp() Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-06-13  1:12   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-13 22:01     ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-06-13  1:00 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next/net 4/5] bpf: Add kfunc to proxy TX HW Timestamp Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-06-13  1:20   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-13 22:03     ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-06-13  1:00 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next/net 5/5] selftest: bpf: Add test for hwtstamp proxy Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-06-13  1:31   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-06-13 22:08     ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-06-13 17:20 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next/net 0/5] bpf: Support RX/TX HW timestamp proxy Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-13 21:43   ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-06-13 22:47     ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-13 23:18       ` Kuniyuki Iwashima

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