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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	 Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 06/34] KVM: x86: Explicitly disable TSC scaling without CONSTANT_TSC
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2026 14:38:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <akWI72WrPKy-PBqo@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260608145455.89187-7-dwmw2@infradead.org>

On Mon, Jun 08, 2026, David Woodhouse wrote:
> From: David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>
> 
> KVM does make an attempt to cope with non-constant TSC, and has
> notifiers to handle host TSC frequency changes. However, it *only*
> adjusts the KVM clock, and doesn't adjust TSC frequency scaling when
> the host changes.
> 
> This is presumably because non-constant TSCs were fixed in hardware
> long before TSC scaling was implemented, so there should never be real
> CPUs which have TSC scaling but *not* CONSTANT_TSC.
> 
> Such a combination could potentially happen in some odd L1 nesting
> environment, but it isn't worth trying to support it. Just make the
> dependency explicit.
> 
> Signed-off-by: David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>
> Reviewed-by: Paul Durrant <paul@xen.org>
> ---
>  arch/x86/kvm/svm/svm.c | 3 ++-
>  arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c | 2 +-
>  2 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/svm/svm.c b/arch/x86/kvm/svm/svm.c
> index e7fdd7a9c280..7817752533fe 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/kvm/svm/svm.c
> +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/svm/svm.c
> @@ -5546,7 +5546,8 @@ static __init int svm_hardware_setup(void)
>  				     XFEATURE_MASK_BNDCSR);
>  
>  	if (tsc_scaling) {
> -		if (!boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_TSCRATEMSR)) {
> +		if (!boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_TSCRATEMSR) ||
> +		    !boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_CONSTANT_TSC)) {
>  			tsc_scaling = false;
>  		} else {
>  			pr_info("TSC scaling supported\n");
> diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c
> index a29896a9ef14..ed207cc7692d 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c
> +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c
> @@ -8672,7 +8672,7 @@ __init int vmx_hardware_setup(void)
>  	if (!enable_apicv || !cpu_has_vmx_ipiv())
>  		enable_ipiv = false;
>  
> -	if (cpu_has_vmx_tsc_scaling())
> +	if (cpu_has_vmx_tsc_scaling() && boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_CONSTANT_TSC))

We should clear SECONDARY_EXEC_TSC_SCALING in setup_vmcs_config().  Failure to
clear the vmcs_config bit will advertise the feature to L2 and allow it to be
enabled in vmcs12, but KVM will ultimately not honor the scaling in vmcs02:

	if (kvm_caps.has_tsc_control)
		vmcs_write64(TSC_MULTIPLIER, vcpu->arch.tsc_scaling_ratio);

This series kinda sorta gets there with "KVM: x86: Remove pvclock_gtod_data and
private timekeeping code", but that change looks misplaced?  And I think clearing
the bit this late will lead to false failures in vmx_check_processor_compat() due
to the golden config clearing the bit, but the local config having it set.


>  		kvm_caps.has_tsc_control = true;
>  
>  	kvm_caps.max_tsc_scaling_ratio = KVM_VMX_TSC_MULTIPLIER_MAX;
> -- 
> 2.54.0
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-01 21:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-08 14:47 [PATCH v5 00/34] Cleaning up the KVM clock mess David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 14:47 ` [PATCH v5 01/34] KVM: x86/xen: Do not corrupt KVM clock in kvm_xen_shared_info_init() David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 14:47 ` [PATCH v5 02/34] KVM: x86: Improve accuracy of KVM clock when TSC scaling is in force David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 14:47 ` [PATCH v5 03/34] UAPI: x86: Move pvclock-abi to UAPI for x86 platforms David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 14:47 ` [PATCH v5 04/34] KVM: x86: Add KVM_[GS]ET_CLOCK_GUEST for accurate KVM clock migration David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 15:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-16  6:47   ` Dongli Zhang
2026-06-16 11:13     ` David Woodhouse
2026-06-23  8:50       ` David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 14:47 ` [PATCH v5 05/34] KVM: selftests: Add KVM/PV clock selftest to prove timer correction David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 15:49   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-08 14:47 ` [PATCH v5 06/34] KVM: x86: Explicitly disable TSC scaling without CONSTANT_TSC David Woodhouse
2026-07-01 21:38   ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-07-02  8:58     ` David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 14:47 ` [PATCH v5 07/34] KVM: x86: Activate master clock immediately on vCPU creation David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 16:27   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-08 23:29     ` David Woodhouse
2026-06-09 16:14       ` David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 14:47 ` [PATCH v5 08/34] KVM: x86: Add KVM_VCPU_TSC_SCALE and fix the documentation on TSC migration David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 16:39   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-09 23:26   ` Randy Dunlap
2026-07-01 21:47   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-02  8:09     ` David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 14:47 ` [PATCH v5 09/34] KVM: x86: Avoid NTP frequency skew for KVM clock on 32-bit host David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 14:47 ` [PATCH v5 10/34] KVM: x86: Fold __get_kvmclock() into get_kvmclock() David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 14:47 ` [PATCH v5 11/34] KVM: x86: Restructure get_kvmclock() David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 14:47 ` [PATCH v5 12/34] KVM: x86: Fix KVM clock precision in get_kvmclock() with TSC scaling David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 17:39   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-08 23:43     ` David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 14:47 ` [PATCH v5 13/34] KVM: x86: Use get_kvmclock() in kvm_get_wall_clock_epoch() David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 14:47 ` [PATCH v5 14/34] KVM: x86: Fix compute_guest_tsc() to handle negative time deltas David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 17:59   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-09  0:02     ` David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 14:47 ` [PATCH v5 15/34] KVM: x86: Restructure kvm_guest_time_update() for TSC upscaling David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 18:13   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-08 14:47 ` [PATCH v5 16/34] KVM: x86: Simplify and comment kvm_get_time_scale() David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 14:47 ` [PATCH v5 17/34] KVM: x86: Remove implicit rdtsc() from kvm_compute_l1_tsc_offset() David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 14:47 ` [PATCH v5 18/34] KVM: x86: Improve synchronization in kvm_synchronize_tsc() David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 18:39   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-09  0:14     ` David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 14:48 ` [PATCH v5 19/34] KVM: x86: Kill last_tsc_{nsec,write,offset} fields David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 18:53   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-09  0:34     ` David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 14:48 ` [PATCH v5 20/34] KVM: x86: Replace nr_vcpus_matched_tsc count with all_vcpus_matched_tsc bool David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 14:48 ` [PATCH v5 21/34] KVM: x86: Allow KVM master clock mode when TSCs are offset from each other David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 19:15   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-08 14:48 ` [PATCH v5 22/34] KVM: selftests: Add master clock offset test David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 19:26   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-09  0:50     ` David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 14:48 ` [PATCH v5 23/34] KVM: x86: Factor out kvm_use_master_clock() David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 14:48 ` [PATCH v5 24/34] KVM: x86: Avoid gratuitous global clock updates David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 14:48 ` [PATCH v5 25/34] KVM: x86/xen: Prevent runstate times from becoming negative David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 19:58   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-09  1:02     ` David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 14:48 ` [PATCH v5 26/34] KVM: x86: Avoid redundant masterclock updates from multiple vCPUs David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 20:11   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-09  1:34     ` David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 14:48 ` [PATCH v5 27/34] KVM: x86: Remove runtime Xen TSC frequency CPUID update David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 14:48 ` [PATCH v5 28/34] KVM: selftests: Add Xen/generic CPUID timing leaf test David Woodhouse
2026-06-09  0:27   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-09  7:02     ` David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 14:48 ` [PATCH v5 29/34] KVM: x86: Re-synchronize TSC after KVM_SET_TSC_KHZ David Woodhouse
2026-06-09  0:37   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-08 14:48 ` [PATCH v5 30/34] KVM: selftests: Add Xen runstate migration test David Woodhouse
2026-06-09  0:50   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-08 14:48 ` [PATCH v5 31/34] KVM: x86: Use ktime_get_snapshot_id() for master clock David Woodhouse
2026-06-09  1:03   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-08 14:48 ` [PATCH v5 32/34] KVM: x86: Compute kvmclock base without pvclock_gtod_data David Woodhouse
2026-06-08 14:48 ` [PATCH v5 33/34] KVM: x86: Replace pvclock_gtod_data vclock_mode with boolean David Woodhouse
2026-06-09  1:23   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-08 14:48 ` [PATCH v5 34/34] KVM: x86: Remove pvclock_gtod_data and private timekeeping code David Woodhouse
2026-06-09 18:50 ` [PATCH v5 00/34] Cleaning up the KVM clock mess David Woodhouse

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