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From: Nadia Chambers <nadia.yvette.chambers@ik.me>
To: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
Cc: Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>,
	lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org,  linux-mm@kvack.org,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	 Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	 Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	 "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	 Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	 Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] 64k (or 16k) base page size on x86
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2026 00:31:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <al1O957ydi8MvOHF@ik.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260220090409.1784bc64@pumpkin>

On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 15:08:51 +0000 Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org> wrote:
>> No, there's no new hardware (that I know of). I want to explore what
>> page size means.
>> The kernel uses the same value - PAGE_SIZE - for two things:
>>   - the order-0 buddy allocation size;
>>   - the granularity of virtual address space mapping;

Am Fr, Feb 20, 2026 um 09:04:09 +0000, David Laight schrieb:
> Also the 'random' buffers that are PAGE_SIZE rather than 4k.
> I also wonder how is affects mmap of kernel memory and the alignement
> of PCIe windows (etc).

It doesn't. Any adequate implementation has to sweep drivers and update
them to use MMUPAGE_SIZE or other address calculations that are still
correct for device memory, buffers need sizing so they work usw.

Yes, those things are there. Sweeping them is integral to implementing
page clustering, whether it was Hugh, me, Andrea or Kiryl.


-- nyc


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-07-19 22:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-19 15:08 [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] 64k (or 16k) base page size on x86 Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-19 15:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 15:20   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 15:27     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-19 15:33 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-02-19 15:50   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-19 15:53     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-19 19:31       ` Pedro Falcato
2026-02-19 15:39 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-19 15:54   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-19 16:09     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-20  2:55       ` Zi Yan
2026-07-19 17:30     ` Nadia Chambers
2026-02-19 17:09   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-20 10:24     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-20 12:07       ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-20 16:30         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-20 19:33           ` Kalesh Singh
2026-02-23 11:04             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-23 11:13               ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-23 11:27                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-23 12:16                   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-23 15:14                   ` Dave Hansen
2026-02-23 15:31                     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-23 15:45                       ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-23 15:49                         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-23 16:22                       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-02-23 16:34                     ` David Laight
2026-07-19 22:24       ` Nadia Chambers
2026-07-20  8:02         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-20  8:49           ` Nadia Chambers
2026-02-19 23:24   ` Kalesh Singh
2026-02-20 12:10     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-20 19:21       ` Kalesh Singh
2026-02-19 17:08 ` Dave Hansen
2026-02-19 22:05   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-20  3:28     ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-20 12:33       ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-20 15:17         ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-20 15:50           ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-07-19  3:42   ` Nadia Chambers
2026-07-19  5:23     ` Hillf Danton
2026-07-19  6:09       ` Nadia Chambers
2026-02-19 17:30 ` Dave Hansen
2026-02-19 22:14   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-19 22:21     ` Dave Hansen
2026-02-19 17:47 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-02-19 22:26   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-07-19 23:00   ` Nadia Chambers
2026-02-20  9:04 ` David Laight
2026-02-20 12:12   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-07-19 22:31   ` Nadia Chambers [this message]
2026-04-29 14:39 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-04-29 15:26   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-05-01 18:05   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-01 18:00 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-05-01 18:02   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-01 18:12     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-05-01 18:31       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-19  0:51 ` Nadia Chambers

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