Which distro for OE development?

Which distro for OE development?

[Hodgson, Simon]

I'm setting up a new machine with Linux specifically to use for OpenEmbedded development. Which Linux distro should I go with?

I'm looking to make it as easy as possible to get started, so ideally all the packages I need will be available from that distro's standard repositry.

I've tried SuSE in the past and given up trying to get all of the required tools installed, and more recently been using Debian, but the Python version in Debian is a few versions behind and there was talk of OE soon requiring a more up to date version.

Ubuntu is a good candidate at the moment as I belive there won't be any hardware issues with the laptop I want to use, but this wiki page suggests there's some faffing to do http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Gcc_issues_in_Intrepid_and_later which I'd like to avoid if possible - does anyone know if these issues are present in the latest version 9.10?

Thanks



Simon

Re: Which distro for OE development?

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Hodgson, Simon wrote:

> I'm setting up a new machine with Linux specifically to use for
> OpenEmbedded development. Which Linux distro should I go with?
>
> I'm looking to make it as easy as possible to get started, so
> ideally all the packages I need will be available from that distro's
> standard repositry.
>
> I've tried SuSE in the past and given up trying to get all of the
> required tools installed, and more recently been using Debian, but
> the Python version in Debian is a few versions behind and there was
> talk of OE soon requiring a more up to date version.
>
> Ubuntu is a good candidate at the moment as I belive there won't be
> any hardware issues with the laptop I want to use, but this wiki
> page suggests there's some faffing to do
> http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Gcc_issues_in_Intrepid_and_later
> which I'd like to avoid if possible - does anyone know if these
> issues are present in the latest version 9.10?

  despite my occasional(?) shrieks of outrage, fedora has generally
served me well for OE builds.

rday
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Re: Which distro for OE development?

[Philip Balister]

On 11/19/2009 08:19 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Hodgson, Simon wrote:
>
>> I'm setting up a new machine with Linux specifically to use for
>> OpenEmbedded development. Which Linux distro should I go with?
>>
>> I'm looking to make it as easy as possible to get started, so
>> ideally all the packages I need will be available from that distro's
>> standard repositry.
>>
>> I've tried SuSE in the past and given up trying to get all of the
>> required tools installed, and more recently been using Debian, but
>> the Python version in Debian is a few versions behind and there was
>> talk of OE soon requiring a more up to date version.
>>
>> Ubuntu is a good candidate at the moment as I belive there won't be
>> any hardware issues with the laptop I want to use, but this wiki
>> page suggests there's some faffing to do
>> http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Gcc_issues_in_Intrepid_and_later
>> which I'd like to avoid if possible - does anyone know if these
>> issues are present in the latest version 9.10?
>
>    despite my occasional(?) shrieks of outrage, fedora has generally
> served me well for OE builds.

You should be fine with the "mainstream" distros since it is likely 
someone on the list is using it and can help you with any issues that 
crop up. As you can see at the moment, the Fedora users are working out 
a potential issue with F12.

Philip

Re: Which distro for OE development?

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Philip Balister wrote:

> You should be fine with the "mainstream" distros since it is likely
> someone on the list is using it and can help you with any issues
> that crop up. As you can see at the moment, the Fedora users are
> working out a potential issue with F12.

  what philip said.  as near as i can tell, guile-1.8.7 *must* have
once built on f12 since, after all, a binary rpm for it exists for f12
and it's on my system right now.

  but now, you can't build it which suggests that some other package
update must have broken the build.  that is, it built for the official
general release of f12, but no longer builds on an updated system.

  i've got top men working on it.  *top* men.

rday

p.s.  actually, philip, that suggests that a fresh install of f12
*should* work.  once you update, though, all bets are off.  but just
wait until we have a resolution.

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Re: Which distro for OE development?

[Marcin Juszkiewicz]

Dnia czwartek, 19 listopada 2009 o 14:06:43 Hodgson, Simon napisał(a):

> I'm setting up a new machine with Linux specifically to use for
>  OpenEmbedded development. Which Linux distro should I go with?
> 
> I'm looking to make it as easy as possible to get started, so ideally all
>  the packages I need will be available from that distro's standard
>  repositry.
> 
> I've tried SuSE in the past and given up trying to get all of the required
> tools installed, and more recently been using Debian, but the Python
> version in Debian is a few versions behind and there was talk of OE soon
> requiring a more up to date version.

OpenEmbedded require Python 2.4 or newer. Debian lenny (stable) and squeeze 
(testing) should work fine. I use 'sid' for development.

> Ubuntu is a good candidate at the moment as I belive there won't be any
> hardware issues with the laptop I want to use, but this wiki page suggests
> there's some faffing to do
> http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Gcc_issues_in_Intrepid_and_later
> which I'd like to avoid if possible - does anyone know if these issues are
> present in the latest version 9.10?

I use OpenEmbedded on Ubuntu 8.04 machine and Poky on 8.04/9.04/9.10 without 
problems. 

So I suggest Debian 'testing' or Ubuntu 9.10/9.04 as a base.

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Re: Which distro for OE development?

[Ahsan Khawaja]

build my development system on Ubuntu 9.04 and found no problem.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Marcin Juszkiewicz <
marcin@juszkiewicz.com.pl> wrote:

> Dnia czwartek, 19 listopada 2009 o 14:06:43 Hodgson, Simon napisał(a):
>
> > I'm setting up a new machine with Linux specifically to use for
> >  OpenEmbedded development. Which Linux distro should I go with?
> >
> > I'm looking to make it as easy as possible to get started, so ideally all
> >  the packages I need will be available from that distro's standard
> >  repositry.
> >
> > I've tried SuSE in the past and given up trying to get all of the
> required
> > tools installed, and more recently been using Debian, but the Python
> > version in Debian is a few versions behind and there was talk of OE soon
> > requiring a more up to date version.
>
> OpenEmbedded require Python 2.4 or newer. Debian lenny (stable) and squeeze
> (testing) should work fine. I use 'sid' for development.
>
> > Ubuntu is a good candidate at the moment as I belive there won't be any
> > hardware issues with the laptop I want to use, but this wiki page
> suggests
> > there's some faffing to do
> > http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Gcc_issues_in_Intrepid_and_later
> > which I'd like to avoid if possible - does anyone know if these issues
> are
> > present in the latest version 9.10?
>
> I use OpenEmbedded on Ubuntu 8.04 machine and Poky on 8.04/9.04/9.10
> without
> problems.
>
> So I suggest Debian 'testing' or Ubuntu 9.10/9.04 as a base.
>
> Regards,
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> Website:  http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/marcinjuszkiewicz
>
>
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Re: Which distro for OE development?

[Phil Blundell]

On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 13:06 +0000, Hodgson, Simon wrote:
> I'm looking to make it as easy as possible to get started, so ideally all the packages I need will be available from that distro's standard repositry.
> 
> I've tried SuSE in the past and given up trying to get all of the required tools installed, and more recently been using Debian, but the Python version in Debian is a few versions behind and there was talk of OE soon requiring a more up to date version.

I'm using Debian on most of my machines and I am fairly happy with it.

The python that's currently in Debian is fine for bitbake 1.8.x.  By the
time OE starts to require bitbake 1.10.x, I suspect Debian's python
support will have caught up: failing that, you can always install the
package from Ubuntu.

p.

Re: Which distro for OE development?

[Ricardo Salveti de Araujo]

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Phil Blundell <philb@gnu.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 13:06 +0000, Hodgson, Simon wrote:
>> I'm looking to make it as easy as possible to get started, so ideally all the packages I need will be available from that distro's standard repositry.
>>
>> I've tried SuSE in the past and given up trying to get all of the required tools installed, and more recently been using Debian, but the Python version in Debian is a few versions behind and there was talk of OE soon requiring a more up to date version.
>
> I'm using Debian on most of my machines and I am fairly happy with it.
>
> The python that's currently in Debian is fine for bitbake 1.8.x.  By the
> time OE starts to require bitbake 1.10.x, I suspect Debian's python
> support will have caught up: failing that, you can always install the
> package from Ubuntu.

I'm using both Ubuntu 9.04 and Gentoo and they are working quite fine.

Didn't test with latest Ubuntu version, but probably someone already
did, as it's now such a common distro.

I think people were having problems with latest Fedora release, but
they can tell more about that.

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Re: Which distro for OE development?

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Ricardo Salveti de Araujo wrote:

> I think people were having problems with latest Fedora release, but
> they can tell more about that.

  because of a few "gotchas." i documented the fedora quirks here:

http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Angstrom

rday
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Re: Which distro for OE development?

[Marco Cavallini]

Hodgson, Simon ha scritto, Il 19/11/2009 14:06:
> I'm setting up a new machine with Linux specifically to use for OpenEmbedded development. Which Linux distro should I go with?
> 
> I'm looking to make it as easy as possible to get started, so ideally all the packages I need will be available from that distro's standard repositry.
> 
> I've tried SuSE in the past and given up trying to get all of the required tools installed, and more recently been using Debian, but the Python version in Debian is a few versions behind and there was talk of OE soon requiring a more up to date version.
> 
> Ubuntu is a good candidate at the moment as I belive there won't be any hardware issues with the laptop I want to use, but this wiki page suggests there's some faffing to do http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Gcc_issues_in_Intrepid_and_later which I'd like to avoid if possible - does anyone know if these issues are present in the latest version 9.10?
> 
> Thanks

I use OpenEmbedded on three different machines.
Debian Lenny on main OE development Quad core server.
Ubuntu 8.10 on my desktop and laptop.


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Re: Which distro for OE development?

[Bjørn Forsman]

2009/11/19 Hodgson, Simon <Simon.Hodgson@nortechonline.co.uk>:
> I'm setting up a new machine with Linux specifically to use for OpenEmbedded development. Which Linux distro should I go with?
>
> I'm looking to make it as easy as possible to get started, so ideally all the packages I need will be available from that distro's standard repositry.
>
> I've tried SuSE in the past and given up trying to get all of the required tools installed, and more recently been using Debian, but the Python version in Debian is a few versions behind and there was talk of OE soon requiring a more up to date version.
>
> Ubuntu is a good candidate at the moment as I belive there won't be any hardware issues with the laptop I want to use, but this wiki page suggests there's some faffing to do http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Gcc_issues_in_Intrepid_and_later which I'd like to avoid if possible - does anyone know if these issues are present in the latest version 9.10?

I've been using OE on Ubuntu 9.04 and now 9.10 without problems.

Best regards,
Bjørn Forsman

Which distro for OE development?

[Eliyahu Skoczylas]

We are setting up a dedicated machine for doing OE development work.  I
assume that Debian Lenny would be the best distro to install as a
starting point.

I'd appreciate feedback, whether I am correct or whether you recommend
something else.


TIA,

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Re: Which distro for OE development?

[Florian Boor]

Hi,

Eliyahu Skoczylas schrieb:
> We are setting up a dedicated machine for doing OE development work.  I
> assume that Debian Lenny would be the best distro to install as a
> starting point.

yes, Lenny should be fine. I use it for our build boxes here too.


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Re: Which distro for OE development?

[Andrea Adami]

I think by popularity here:

Debian / Ubuntu
Gentoo

Andrea

Re: Which distro for OE development?

[Philip Balister]

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Andrea Adami wrote:
> I think by popularity here:
> 
> Debian / Ubuntu
> Gentoo

Fedora also works.

Philip

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Re: Which distro for OE development?

[Stanislav Brabec]

Philip Balister wrote:
> Andrea Adami wrote:
> > I think by popularity here:
> > 
> > Debian / Ubuntu
> > Gentoo
> 
> Fedora also works.

And openSUSE as well (both i586 and x86_64). However you have a better
chance to discover undiscovered error on x86_64 (as it has /usr/lib64 as
a default library path).

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Re: Which distro for OE development?

[Martyn Welch]

On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 09:39:39 -0400
Philip Balister <philip@balister.org> wrote:

> Andrea Adami wrote:
> > I think by popularity here:
> > 
> > Debian / Ubuntu
> > Gentoo
> 
> Fedora also works.
> 

Though I've got a collegue who has had trouble with the stable branch on Fedora 9. Fedora 8 is fine. The compiler in F9 fails to build dbus-native (1.0.1), though the older compiler in F8 has no problems. 

Martyn

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Re: Which distro for OE development?

[Khem Raj]

Ideally you can use the hosts which have these packages.

http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Required_Software

Then there is a list of known working distros.

http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/OEandYourDistro

If your distro is not listed here and you have made it to work on it,
feel free to contribute the prerquisites or any steps you did to make
it work on that particular distro.

Thanks

-Khem

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Martyn Welch <martyn.welch@gefanuc.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 09:39:39 -0400
> Philip Balister <philip@balister.org> wrote:
>
>> Andrea Adami wrote:
>> > I think by popularity here:
>> >
>> > Debian / Ubuntu
>> > Gentoo
>>
>> Fedora also works.
>>
>
> Though I've got a collegue who has had trouble with the stable branch on Fedora 9. Fedora 8 is fine. The compiler in F9 fails to build dbus-native (1.0.1), though the older compiler in F8 has no problems.
>
> Martyn
>
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Re: Which distro for OE development?

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

Am Dienstag, 2. September 2008 13:42:25 schrieb Eliyahu Skoczylas:
> I'd appreciate feedback, whether I am correct or whether you recommend
> something else.

Mandriva works fine.

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