is there a list of yocto-supported dev kits somewhere?

is there a list of yocto-supported dev kits somewhere?

[Robert P. J. Day]

  perhaps i just haven't noticed, but is there somewhere a list of dev
kits that have a yocto project build for them? it would be great to
have a reference list along the lines of, "boards for which there is a
working YB build", with link(s) to relevant layer and instructions,
etc.

rday

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Re: is there a list of yocto-supported dev kits somewhere?

[Samuel Stirtzel]

2014-08-28 9:38 GMT+02:00 Robert P. J. Day <rpjday@crashcourse.ca>:
>
>   perhaps i just haven't noticed, but is there somewhere a list of dev
> kits that have a yocto project build for them? it would be great to
> have a reference list along the lines of, "boards for which there is a
> working YB build", with link(s) to relevant layer and instructions,
> etc.
>
> rday
>

Hi,

for the sake of completeness the layerindex [1] has a list of machines
that are eventually supported.
Although it lacks information about issues / supported features of
these machines.


[1] http://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/machines/?q=


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Samuel

Re: is there a list of yocto-supported dev kits somewhere?

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Thu, 28 Aug 2014, Samuel Stirtzel wrote:

> 2014-08-28 9:38 GMT+02:00 Robert P. J. Day <rpjday@crashcourse.ca>:
> >
> >   perhaps i just haven't noticed, but is there somewhere a list of dev
> > kits that have a yocto project build for them? it would be great to
> > have a reference list along the lines of, "boards for which there is a
> > working YB build", with link(s) to relevant layer and instructions,
> > etc.
> >
> > rday
> >
>
> Hi,
>
> for the sake of completeness the layerindex [1] has a list of machines
> that are eventually supported.
> Although it lacks information about issues / supported features of
> these machines.
>
>
> [1] http://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/machines/?q=

  ah, yes, that's what i was looking for, not sure why i'd never seen
that before, thanks.

rday

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Re: is there a list of yocto-supported dev kits somewhere?

[Jeff Osier-Mixon]

I think the machines list is a great start, but it really lists actual
machines, not dev kits. There isn't any way to see immediately from
that list which are $99 dev boards and which are $9999 reference kits
from the manufacturers. I think Robert is right that a list of
inexpensive YP-supported boards would be extremely useful. I'll try to
create such a list in the near future.

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 1:09 AM, Robert P. J. Day <rpjday@crashcourse.ca> wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2014, Samuel Stirtzel wrote:
>
>> 2014-08-28 9:38 GMT+02:00 Robert P. J. Day <rpjday@crashcourse.ca>:
>> >
>> >   perhaps i just haven't noticed, but is there somewhere a list of dev
>> > kits that have a yocto project build for them? it would be great to
>> > have a reference list along the lines of, "boards for which there is a
>> > working YB build", with link(s) to relevant layer and instructions,
>> > etc.
>> >
>> > rday
>> >
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> for the sake of completeness the layerindex [1] has a list of machines
>> that are eventually supported.
>> Although it lacks information about issues / supported features of
>> these machines.
>>
>>
>> [1] http://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/machines/?q=
>
>   ah, yes, that's what i was looking for, not sure why i'd never seen
> that before, thanks.
>
> rday
>
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Re: is there a list of yocto-supported dev kits somewhere?

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Thu, 28 Aug 2014, Jeff Osier-Mixon wrote:

> I think the machines list is a great start,

http://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/machines/?q=

> but it really lists actual machines, not dev kits. There isn't any
> way to see immediately from that list which are $99 dev boards and
> which are $9999 reference kits from the manufacturers. I think
> Robert is right that a list of inexpensive YP-supported boards would
> be extremely useful. I'll try to create such a list in the near
> future.

  that is kinda what i was after. i realize it's an open-ended
request, but it would be great if there was a list of "recommended"
dev kits representing various architectures/processors that people new
to YP could purchase for experimentation, *knowing* that those dev
kits had a YP build that would work out of the box. not necessarily
technically complete, but that it would just boot and let them start
playing.

  and as i once suggested (and jefro clearly appreciates), at this
point, dev kits like that should rarely cost more than a couple
hundred dollars.

rday

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Re: is there a list of yocto-supported dev kits somewhere?

[Rudolf Streif]

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I think this is a great idea and I volunteer to help with the effort.


>   that is kinda what i was after. i realize it's an open-ended
> request, but it would be great if there was a list of "recommended"
> dev kits representing various architectures/processors that people new
> to YP could purchase for experimentation, *knowing* that those dev
> kits had a YP build that would work out of the box. not necessarily
> technically complete, but that it would just boot and let them start
> playing.
>

The "work out of the box" part is the tricky one. Unfortunately, many YP
BSP layers do not include instructions on what to do after the build has
completed. If you don't know what to do with boot loader and kernel images,
flattened device tree files, root file system archives and images then you
are at a loss. Commonly the boards also require a special boot media
partitioning and the like.

While this type of info should be in the BSP readme files I think it would
be good to have step by step instructions that gets one from setting up the
build environment to building and creating bootable media for each board.

Cheers,
Rudi

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Re: is there a list of yocto-supported dev kits somewhere?

[Robert P. J. Day]

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On Fri, 29 Aug 2014, Rudolf Streif wrote:

> I think this is a great idea and I volunteer to help with the effort.
>  
>   that is kinda what i was after. i realize it's an open-ended
> request, but it would be great if there was a list of "recommended"
> dev kits representing various architectures/processors that people new
> to YP could purchase for experimentation, *knowing* that those dev
> kits had a YP build that would work out of the box. not necessarily
> technically complete, but that it would just boot and let them start
> playing.
>
> The "work out of the box" part is the tricky one. Unfortunately,
> many YP BSP layers do not include instructions on what to do after
> the build has completed. If you don't know what to do with boot
> loader and kernel images, flattened device tree files, root file
> system archives and images then you are at a loss. Commonly the
> boards also require a special boot media partitioning and the like.

  exactly true, but without that final bit of information, i contend
that the YP build is utterly useless unless the developer is told what
to do with the final image objects.

> While this type of info should be in the BSP readme files I think it
> would be good to have step by step instructions that gets one from
> setting up the build environment to building and creating bootable
> media for each board.

  and those step-by-step instructions don't need to be terribly
verbose. remember, you're not trying to explain how to use YP; you're
simply summarizing what it takes to get it running on a particular dev
kit. all of that should fit on a single page at most.

rday

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Re: is there a list of yocto-supported dev kits somewhere?

[Sven Ebenfeld]

Am 29.08.2014 18:01, schrieb Robert P. J. Day:
> On Fri, 29 Aug 2014, Rudolf Streif wrote:
> 
>> I think this is a great idea and I volunteer to help with the effort.
>>  
>>   that is kinda what i was after. i realize it's an open-ended
>> request, but it would be great if there was a list of "recommended"
>> dev kits representing various architectures/processors that people new
>> to YP could purchase for experimentation, *knowing* that those dev
>> kits had a YP build that would work out of the box. not necessarily
>> technically complete, but that it would just boot and let them start
>> playing.
>>
>> The "work out of the box" part is the tricky one. Unfortunately,
>> many YP BSP layers do not include instructions on what to do after
>> the build has completed. If you don't know what to do with boot
>> loader and kernel images, flattened device tree files, root file
>> system archives and images then you are at a loss. Commonly the
>> boards also require a special boot media partitioning and the like.
> 
>   exactly true, but without that final bit of information, i contend
> that the YP build is utterly useless unless the developer is told what
> to do with the final image objects.
> 
>> While this type of info should be in the BSP readme files I think it
>> would be good to have step by step instructions that gets one from
>> setting up the build environment to building and creating bootable
>> media for each board.
> 
>   and those step-by-step instructions don't need to be terribly
> verbose. remember, you're not trying to explain how to use YP; you're
> simply summarizing what it takes to get it running on a particular dev
> kit. all of that should fit on a single page at most.
> 

Robert Nelson has a good collection for ARM-Devkits in his eewiki:
https://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/Home Maybe that could be a good
starting point.

> rday
> 
> 
> 

Re: is there a list of yocto-supported dev kits somewhere?

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Fri, 29 Aug 2014, Sven Ebenfeld wrote:

> Robert Nelson has a good collection for ARM-Devkits in his eewiki:
> https://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/Home Maybe that could be a
> good starting point.

  i agree, but i certainly don't think one needs to include *all* of
the kits robert is currently supporting, just the current ones. for
example, given the existence of the beaglebone black, i see no
pressing need to similarly document the earlier beaglebone (white) or
the beagleboard (unless one really, really, really wants to). after
all, if someone wants to get into YP and is looking for a starter dev
kit, the BBB would be the obvious preference over any of the earlier
beagle models.

  perhaps the various maintainers of the various layers can decide
which affordable dev kit would be a good representative for their
offerings. for intel, the minnowboard [max] would be a good candidate
and so on. the freescale folks could pick one or two -- the wandboard
seems a good choice here. others:

  * altera rocketboards:
http://www.rocketboards.org/foswiki/Documentation/GSRDGettingStartedYoctoCopyArrowSoCKitEdition

  * xilinx zynq:
http://www.wiki.xilinx.com/Yocto

  most of this stuff seems to be out there and working, it just needs
to be put into a simple list somewhere.

rday

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Re: is there a list of yocto-supported dev kits somewhere?

[Robert P. J. Day]

  took only a few minutes, here's my first pass at a short list of
affordable and YP-compatible(?) dev kits:

http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Yocto_Project_dev_kits

not trying to be complete, just the ones i could think of off the top
of my head that represent some variety. thoughts? perhaps the intel
and freescale people could suggest other possibilities.

rday

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Re: is there a list of yocto-supported dev kits somewhere?

[Bryan Evenson]

Robert,

Atmel has their own board support layer that they have not submitted as an official Yocto Project BSP.  Their layer supports their AT91SAM9x5-EK series and their SAMA5D3 series evaluation kits.  I've been using their AT91SAM9G25-EK kit for my reference design.  Since Atmel doesn't have a BSP that is officially supported by the Yocto Project, I'm not sure whether it belongs with your list or not.

Regards,
Bryan

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> To: Sven Ebenfeld
> Cc: yocto@yoctoproject.org
> Subject: Re: [yocto] is there a list of yocto-supported dev kits somewhere?
> 
> 
>   took only a few minutes, here's my first pass at a short list of affordable and
> YP-compatible(?) dev kits:
> 
> http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Yocto_Project_dev_kits
> 
> not trying to be complete, just the ones i could think of off the top of my
> head that represent some variety. thoughts? perhaps the intel and freescale
> people could suggest other possibilities.
> 
> rday
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Re: is there a list of yocto-supported dev kits somewhere?

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Fri, 5 Sep 2014, Bryan Evenson wrote:

> Robert,
>
> Atmel has their own board support layer that they have not submitted
> as an official Yocto Project BSP.  Their layer supports their
> AT91SAM9x5-EK series and their SAMA5D3 series evaluation kits.
> I've been using their AT91SAM9G25-EK kit for my reference design.
> Since Atmel doesn't have a BSP that is officially supported by the
> Yocto Project, I'm not sure whether it belongs with your list or
> not.

  sorry for the delay, was embedded (pun intended :-) in another
project. i don't think it's necessary for a layer to be an "official"
yocto layer, so much as it just needs to work out of the box for a dev
kit.

  so if you've used this layer and it works just fine, i'll add it to
my list. just point me at the relevant info.

rday

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Re: is there a list of yocto-supported dev kits somewhere?

[Bryan Evenson]

Robert,

I'm copying Nicolas Ferre from Atmel, the main maintainer of their meta layer, in case anything I say needs correction.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert P. J. Day [mailto:rpjday@crashcourse.ca]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 5:37 AM
> To: Bryan Evenson
> Cc: Sven Ebenfeld; yocto@yoctoproject.org
> Subject: RE: [yocto] is there a list of yocto-supported dev kits somewhere?
> 
> On Fri, 5 Sep 2014, Bryan Evenson wrote:
> 
> > Robert,
> >
> > Atmel has their own board support layer that they have not submitted
> > as an official Yocto Project BSP.  Their layer supports their
> > AT91SAM9x5-EK series and their SAMA5D3 series evaluation kits.
> > I've been using their AT91SAM9G25-EK kit for my reference design.
> > Since Atmel doesn't have a BSP that is officially supported by the
> > Yocto Project, I'm not sure whether it belongs with your list or not.
> 
>   sorry for the delay, was embedded (pun intended :-) in another project. i
> don't think it's necessary for a layer to be an "official"
> yocto layer, so much as it just needs to work out of the box for a dev kit.
> 
>   so if you've used this layer and it works just fine, i'll add it to my list. just
> point me at the relevant info.
> 

Atmel's layer is at https://github.com/linux4sam/meta-atmel.  Their main support wiki is located at http://www.at91.com/linux4sam/bin/view/Linux4SAM/, with the Yocto-specific material located at http://www.at91.com/linux4sam/bin/view/Linux4SAM/YoctoProject.  Let me know if you were looking for some more information for this list

Regards,
Bryan   

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