From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 03/41] KVM: Enumerate support for PRIVATE memory iff kvm_arch_has_private_mem is defined
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2026 06:19:45 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <anSJ1lLS0HZnfjCt@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fda26964-721d-4a8c-9225-46ca3a5b2785@intel.com>
On Thu, Aug 06, 2026, Xiaoyao Li wrote:
> On 8/6/2026 8:43 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 05, 2026, Xiaoyao Li wrote:
> > > On 7/31/2026 4:34 AM, Ackerley Tng wrote:
> > > > I think another way to phrase this is that if we don't make this change,
> > > > say, on the foo architecture where there's no CoCo and no private mem
> > > > support, kvm_supported_mem_attributes() would return true for the !kvm
> > > > case, which is over-reporting.
> > >
> > > Under the condition that the foo architecture enables
> > > CONFIG_KVM_VM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES.
> > >
> > > > How about this, replacing the entire changelog paragraph above:
> > > >
> > > > Explicitly guard reporting support for KVM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTE_PRIVATE
> > > > based on kvm_arch_has_private_mem being #defined. This improves
> > > > reporting accuracy by not reporting support for
> > > > KVM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTE_PRIVATE when kvm_supported_mem_attributes() is
> > > > called with kvm == NULL.
> > >
> > > It doesn't help for the case where kvm == NULL, but help for the case where
> > > CONFIG_KVM_VM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES is defined but kvm_arch_has_private_mem not.
> > >
> > > sorry for being picky. I think we can say
> > >
> > > This improves the reporting accuracy by avoiding the case where
> > > KVM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTE_PRIVATE is reported when kvm == null even without
> > > kvm_arch_has_private_mem being #defined.
> >
> > How about this?
> >
> > Explicitly guard reporting support for KVM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTE_PRIVATE based
> > on kvm_arch_has_private_mem being #defined in anticipation of tracking
> > PRIVATE vs. SHARED state per-guest_memfd, not per-VM (to allow in-place
> > conversion).
>
> Sorry, maybe I'm stupid. I still don't understand how to connect it to
> tracking PRIVATE vs. SHARED state per-guest_memfd.
>
> There are two diffs in this patch, and we are talking about the second diff,
> right?
Yes, the second diff is what provides the desired change in behavior.
> If the kvm_supported_mem_attributes() will be used by gmem, I can buy the
> justification. But it won't. At least, it won't after this series.
It's not about gmem using that API, it's about non-gmem using the API when
reporting KVM_CAP_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES. Without the change, if KVM supports any
memory attributes, i.e. if KVM_GENERIC_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES=y, then the below will
*incorrctly* include PRIVATE in the set of memory attributes, because
KVM_CAP_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES reports what memory attributes are supported via the
VM-scoped KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES.
#ifdef CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES
case KVM_CAP_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES:
return kvm_supported_mem_attributes(kvm);
#endif
>
> > guest_memfd support for memory attributes is expected to be unconditional
> > to avoid yet more macros (all architectures that support guest_memfd are
> > expected to use per-gmem attributes at some point), at which point
> > enumerating support KVM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTE_PRIVATE based solely on memory
> > attributes being supported by KVM at-large would result in a system-scope
>
> s/memory attributes/CONFIG_KVM_VM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES/ ?
No. I mean "memory attributes" as in KVM as a whole entity, i.e. everything
linked into kvm.ko (and kvm-{amd,intel}.ko, supports memory attributes.
> > check (NULL @kvm) over-reporting support on arm64.
>
> I think arm64 won't define CONFIG_KVM_VM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES?
Precisely *because* of this patch. More at the bottom.
> So it seems to have nothing to do with arm64.
>
> It matters for x86. After patch 20, CONFIG_KVM_VM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES is
> user-configurable. At that time, people can disable
> CONFIG_KVM_SW_PROTECTED_VM, CONFIG_KVM_INTEL_TDX and CONFIG_KVM_AMD_SEV, but
> enable CONFIG_KVM_VM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES on x86.
No, they can't. KVM_VM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES depends on one of those three being
enabled. What am I missing?
config KVM_VM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES
bool "Enable per-VM PRIVATE vs. SHARED attributes (for CoCo VMs)"
depends on KVM_SW_PROTECTED_VM || KVM_INTEL_TDX || KVM_AMD_SEV <======
> In this case, kvm_supported_mem_attributes() reports
> KVM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTE_PRIVATE for system-scope query which is totally wrong. I
> think this is the case we want to prevent not something won't happen for
> arm64?
Well, yeah, because of patches like this one. That's the whole point. Without
this change, kvm_supports_private_mem() would be reachable if and only if
KVM_VM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES=y, which would prevent burying that Kconfig in x86 and
would prevent arm64 from enabling the PRIVATE memory attribute in guest_memfd.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-06 13:20 UTC|newest]
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2026-07-29 0:34 [PATCH v9 00/41] guest_memfd: In-place conversion support Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29 0:34 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-29 0:35 ` [PATCH v9 01/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Introduce per-gmem attributes, use to guard user mappings Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29 0:35 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-31 8:57 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-07-31 16:08 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-04 13:46 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-10 7:50 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-29 0:35 ` [PATCH v9 02/41] KVM: Rename KVM_GENERIC_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES to KVM_VM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29 0:35 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-10 7:53 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-29 0:35 ` [PATCH v9 03/41] KVM: Enumerate support for PRIVATE memory iff kvm_arch_has_private_mem is defined Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29 0:35 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-30 9:57 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-07-30 20:34 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-05 8:51 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-06 0:43 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-06 1:40 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-06 13:19 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-08-10 8:07 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-29 0:35 ` [PATCH v9 04/41] KVM: Rename memory attribute APIs to prepare for in-place gmem conversion Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29 0:35 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-30 8:19 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-10 8:09 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-29 0:35 ` [PATCH v9 05/41] KVM: Provide generic interface for checking memory private/shared status Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29 0:35 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-10 8:15 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-29 0:35 ` [PATCH v9 06/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Introduce function to check GFN " Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29 0:35 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-10 8:35 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-29 0:35 ` [PATCH v9 07/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Wire up core private/shared attribute interfaces Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29 0:35 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-30 11:05 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-07-30 20:42 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-30 23:49 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-07-31 16:26 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-03 2:43 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-03 15:33 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-04 2:11 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-07-29 0:35 ` [PATCH v9 08/41] KVM: Consolidate private memory and guest_memfd ifdeffery in kvm_host.h Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29 0:35 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-29 0:35 ` [PATCH v9 09/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Filter both shared and private when invalidating Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29 0:35 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-05 10:51 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-07-29 0:35 ` [PATCH v9 10/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Add base support for KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2 Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29 0:35 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-30 22:22 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-30 22:26 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-03 15:53 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-07-29 0:35 ` [PATCH v9 11/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Ensure pages are not in use before conversion Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29 0:35 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-29 0:35 ` [PATCH v9 12/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Call arch make_shared callback for to-shared conversion Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29 0:35 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-30 10:35 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-07-29 0:35 ` [PATCH v9 13/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Return early if range already has requested attributes Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29 0:35 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-30 22:31 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-29 0:35 ` [PATCH v9 14/41] mm: swap: Introduce lru_add_drain_progressive() Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29 0:35 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-30 10:21 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-30 22:20 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-31 10:22 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-31 11:59 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-31 13:03 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-31 14:09 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-31 21:04 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-03 15:03 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-03 15:12 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-04 15:26 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-04 21:35 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-04 21:41 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-08-04 22:20 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-04 23:15 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-29 0:35 ` [PATCH v9 15/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Handle lru_add fbatch refcounts during conversion safety check Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29 0:35 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-29 0:35 ` [PATCH v9 16/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Zero page while getting pfn Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29 0:35 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-31 8:49 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-07-29 0:35 ` [PATCH v9 17/41] KVM: SEV: Make 'uaddr' parameter optional for KVM_SEV_SNP_LAUNCH_UPDATE Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29 0:35 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-29 0:35 ` [PATCH v9 18/41] KVM: TDX: Make source page optional for KVM_TDX_INIT_MEM_REGION Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29 0:35 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-31 8:26 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-07-31 16:11 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-04 2:21 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-07-29 0:35 ` [PATCH v9 19/41] KVM: Move KVM_VM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES config definition to x86 Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29 0:35 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-29 0:35 ` [PATCH v9 20/41] KVM: Let userspace disable per-VM mem attributes, enable per-gmem attributes Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29 0:35 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-31 8:48 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-04 15:39 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-04 21:26 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-29 0:35 ` [PATCH v9 21/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Enable INIT_SHARED on guest_memfd for x86 Coco VMs Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29 0:35 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-29 0:35 ` [PATCH v9 22/41] KVM: selftests: Create gmem fd before "regular" fd when adding memslot Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29 0:35 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-29 0:35 ` [PATCH v9 23/41] KVM: selftests: Rename guest_memfd{,_offset} to gmem_{fd,offset} Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
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2026-07-29 0:35 ` [PATCH v9 29/41] KVM: selftests: Test conversion precision in guest_memfd Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-07-29 0:35 ` Ackerley Tng
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2026-07-29 0:35 ` [PATCH v9 31/41] KVM: selftests: Convert with allocated folios in different layouts Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
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2026-07-29 0:35 ` [PATCH v9 38/41] KVM: selftests: Provide common function to set memory attributes Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
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2026-07-29 0:35 ` [PATCH v9 41/41] KVM: selftests: Update private memory exits test to work with per-gmem attributes Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
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