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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Hyunwoo Kim <imv4bel@gmail.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>,
	Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] posix-cpu-timers: Dequeue per-thread timers before exchange_tids()
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2026 14:55:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ao7iQ_wOLghOvTsq@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ao7Q8miiuLAPVnWv@v4bel>

OMG, my head spins ;) I'll try to read your explanation tomorrow.
Right now I am all confused.

But let me ask some stupid questions right now, please help me to
understand the problem.

On 08/26, Hyunwoo Kim wrote:
>
> begin_new_exec() calls posix_cpu_timers_exit(me) right after
> exec_task_namespaces() and that removes the leftover node, so the state
> normally stays invisible. But bprm->point_of_no_return is set before
> de_thread(), so if unshare_files(), set_mm_exe_file(), exec_mmap() or
> exec_task_namespaces() fails, the task dies before it gets there.

Do I understand this correctly? If begin_new_exec() does call
posix_cpu_timers_exit(me), then everything is fine.

Yes? If yes

> --- a/fs/exec.c
> +++ b/fs/exec.c
> @@ -1003,6 +1003,18 @@ static int de_thread(struct task_struct *tsk)
>  		 * the former thread group leader:
>  		 */
>
> +#ifdef CONFIG_POSIX_TIMERS
> +		/*
> +		 * exchange_tids() hands this thread's PID to the old leader,
> +		 * which is reaped right after. The PID lookup in
> +		 * timer_lock_sighand() then fails while the per thread CPU
> +		 * timers are still queued here, so dequeue them first.
> +		 */
> +		spin_lock(lock);
> +		posix_cpu_timers_exit(tsk);
> +		spin_unlock(lock);
> +#endif

... then why do we need to call posix_cpu_timers_exit(current) before
exchange_tids() ?

And what if another process attaches another cpu timer to the execing
thread right after the code above?

Can we move posix_cpu_timers_exit() or the whole CONFIG_POSIX_TIMERS
sequence in begin_new_exec() up, right after de_thread() before the
"if (retval)" check?

Thank you,

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-26 12:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-26 11:41 [PATCH v2] posix-cpu-timers: Dequeue per-thread timers before exchange_tids() Hyunwoo Kim
2026-08-26 12:55 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2026-08-27 13:13   ` Hyunwoo Kim
2026-08-31 16:20   ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-31 18:24     ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-09-01 14:50       ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-01 15:11         ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-31 11:56 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-31 16:19   ` Thomas Gleixner

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