From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Yanfei Xu <isyanfei.xu@gmail.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Li Zhijian <lizhijian@fujitsu.com>,
Samuel Zhang <guoqing.zhang@amd.com>,
Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>, Jack Wang <jinpu.wang@ionos.com>,
Juraj Marcin <jmarcin@redhat.com>,
Yanfei Xu <yanfei.xu@bytedance.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/10] migration/rdma: Remove unregister code
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2026 10:43:45 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aoRvobhlj6-YJsqT@x1.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4a0b20e5-947c-45a4-8fcf-89c77e0a4cfb@gmail.com>
On Tue, Aug 18, 2026 at 09:57:12PM +0800, Yanfei Xu wrote:
>
> On 2026/8/18 21:01, Peter Xu wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 18, 2026 at 07:57:06PM +0800, Yanfei Xu wrote:
> > > Hi Peter,
> > Hi, Yanfei,
> >
> > > No objection to removing the dead code — it clearly never worked
> > >
> > > I do have one question about the direction, though. The removed logic
> > > was the only in-tree attempt at MR unregistration for the non-pin-all
> > > path. Without it, registered MRs grow monotonically over a migration,
> > > and with large, widely-spread dirty memory over chunks the accumulated
> > > MR metadata (user + kernel) can cost more than pin-all and even perform
> > > worse — which rather defeats the purpose of not pinning everything.
> > >
> > > do we still intend to keep and improve the non-pin-all path going
> > > forward? If so, some form of dynamic MR unregistration will eventually
> > > be needed and it might be worth keeping this code,or at least leaving
> > > a TODO to mark the gap?
> > Thanks for taking a look. This is a valid question to ask.
> >
> > Though it was there for 13 years without being "enhanced", it means the
> > possibility we leverage it in the next couple of years is low.
> >
> > You also discussed the other side of things: I am not a frequent RDMA user,
> > but my understanding is frequent MR reg operations already slow down
> > migration quite a bit. It means dynamic management including unregisters
> > will be even worse. AFAICT, it'll be a challenging task if we want to keep
> > the performance in bar and add a hard throttle to pinned memory.
>
> One advantage of non-pin-all is that it neither sends the all-zero chunk
> nor registers the corresponding MRs. For guests with a low dirty-page
> workload and a large number of zero pages, this lets it migrate faster
> than pin-all and pin less guest memory during the migration.
I actually don't know why RDMA_CONTROL_COMPRESS is only used in !pin_all,
do you know?
I can only guess RDMA WRITEs were fast and need no round-robin chats, so
it's faster than RDMA_CONTROL_COMPRESS, but you seem to say it's not true.
Meanwhile, I would expect pin-all=off ultimately should meet the same perf
over pin-all=on.. so I don't really know how needs pin-all=on... maybe
it's useful when one is looking for minimum total migration time when VMs
are required to be evicted from one host?
Feel free to share if you have more data points; I'm almost speaking from
reading the code, so it could be wrong.
Thanks,
--
Peter Xu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-18 14:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-17 20:24 [PATCH 00/10] migration/rdma: Fixes or drops Peter Xu
2026-08-17 20:24 ` [PATCH 01/10] migration/rdma: Introduce RDMA_CONTROL_NUM Peter Xu
2026-08-19 10:35 ` Jinpu Wang
2026-08-17 20:24 ` [PATCH 02/10] migration/rdma: Remove unregister code Peter Xu
2026-08-18 11:57 ` Yanfei Xu
2026-08-18 13:01 ` Peter Xu
2026-08-18 13:57 ` Yanfei Xu
2026-08-18 14:43 ` Peter Xu [this message]
2026-08-19 3:55 ` Yanfei Xu
2026-08-19 10:52 ` Jinpu Wang
2026-08-19 12:01 ` Jinpu Wang
2026-08-19 12:47 ` Peter Xu
2026-08-19 13:20 ` Jinpu Wang
2026-08-17 20:24 ` [PATCH 03/10] migration/rdma: Stick with rdma_ prefix for all tracepoints Peter Xu
2026-08-19 11:39 ` Jinpu Wang
2026-08-17 20:24 ` [PATCH 04/10] migration/rdma: Drop RDMALocalBlock.is_ram_block Peter Xu
2026-08-19 12:43 ` Jinpu Wang
2026-08-19 14:49 ` Peter Xu
2026-08-17 20:24 ` [PATCH 05/10] migration/rdma: Drop RDMALocalBlock.unregister_bitmap Peter Xu
2026-08-19 12:44 ` Jinpu Wang
2026-08-17 20:24 ` [PATCH 06/10] migration/rdma: Drop RDMARegister.key.chunk Peter Xu
2026-08-19 12:48 ` Jinpu Wang
2026-08-17 20:24 ` [PATCH 07/10] migration/rdma: Sanity check RDMA_CONTROL_REGISTER_REQUEST on buflen Peter Xu
2026-08-19 12:52 ` Jinpu Wang
2026-08-17 20:24 ` [PATCH 08/10] migration/rdma: Sanity check RDMA_CONTROL_REGISTER_REQUEST chunks Peter Xu
2026-08-19 13:00 ` Jinpu Wang
2026-08-19 15:20 ` Peter Xu
2026-08-17 20:24 ` [PATCH 09/10] migration/rdma: Sanity check upper bound of register MR address Peter Xu
2026-08-19 13:09 ` Jinpu Wang
2026-08-17 20:24 ` [PATCH 10/10] migration/rdma: Sanity check compress request ranges Peter Xu
2026-08-19 13:10 ` Jinpu Wang
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