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From: Leonardo Bras <leo.bras@arm.com>
To: Wei-Lin Chang <weilin.chang@arm.com>
Cc: Leonardo Bras <leo.bras@arm.com>, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>, Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>,
	Oliver Upton <oupton@kernel.org>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Yao Yuan <yaoyuan@linux.alibaba.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v19 03/14] KVM: arm64: Manage GCS access and registers for guests
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2026 12:26:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aog11Xfjf-tmA4PO@LeoBrasDK> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <hwz52absjxap7n6olwt3lmjakmtgxxaku5gcofsrcfa45zdygh@dqgylcillnud>

On Fri, Aug 21, 2026 at 12:39:08AM +0100, Wei-Lin Chang wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2026 at 03:28:39PM +0100, Leonardo Bras wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 20, 2026 at 03:07:14PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2026 at 11:16:59AM +0100, Leonardo Bras wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2026 at 05:46:00PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > This is just because there isn't a preexisting ctxt_has_tcrx() check
> > > > > already there, FEAT_GCS architecturally depends on FEAT_TCRX and there
> > > > > was a request to make this explicit in the code to try to optimise
> > > > > things a bit.  The compiler should skip over both blocks at once if TCRX
> > > > > isn't there rather than having two separate tests or static branches.  I
> > > > > didn't add new checks where there were none since I expect that to be
> > > > > unhelpful for code generation, you'd get the reverse situation and emit
> > > > > two checks.
> > > 
> > > > Humm, but then why saving GCSPR_EL2 does not depend on TCRX/E2H? Or maybe a 
> > > > better question, why are not GCSPR_EL2 and GCSCR_EL2 saved in the same 'if' 
> > > > clause under ctxt_has_tcrx() (and E2H set), if they are restored in the 
> > > > same 'if' clause?
> > > 
> > > > As you mentioned, GCS depends on TCRX, so it should be fine, but just by 
> > > > reading the code I see:
> > > > - GCSCR_EL2 :
> > > > 	Save if 	GCS=1, TCRX=1, E2H=1
> > > > 	Restore if 	GCS=1, TCRX=1
> > > > - GCSPR_EL2 :
> > > > 	Save if 	GCS=1,
> > > > 	Restore if	GCS=1, TCRX=1
> > > 
> > > > Which looks kind of confusing for the as a first time reader.
> > > 
> > > > Does it make sense?
> > > 
> > > I agree that the current situation is a bit hard to follow, I'd actually
> > > originally written things without the explict dependency because of that
> > > but Marc wanted the optimisation.
> > 
> > Well, I am not against the explicit dependency thing, it just looks odd 
> > to me that some save/restore have a dependency and it's counterpart does 
> > not. As well as the dependencies for both registers being different.
> 
> Hey I feel the question wasn't answered completely :)
> 
> Here is the reason for the asymmetric save restore (besides the tcr2
> part):
> 
> GCSCR
>  If guest E2H == 1:
>  - L1 accesses to GCSCR_EL2 and GCSCR_EL1 have the same intent -> they
>    both mean access the vCPU GCSCR_EL2.
>  - L1 access to GCSCR_EL2 (e.g. msr GCSCR_EL2, x0) traps, KVM updates
>    both the in-memory vCPU GCSCR_EL2, and the hardware GCSCR_EL1 for the
>    the guest. In-memory copy stays up to date.
>  - L1 access to GCSCR_EL1 does not trap -> in-memory vCPU GCSCR_EL2
>    becomes stale if it's a write.
>  - From above, must save on exit.
> 
>  If guest E2H == 0:
>  - Only L1 accesses to GCSCR_EL2 mean access the vCPU GCSCR_EL2.
>  - L1 accesses to GCSCR_EL2 always traps.
>  - In-memory vCPU GCSCR_EL2 always stay up to date.
>  - From above, no need to save on exit.
> 
> GCSPR
>  - Regardless of the guest E2H value, hardware could write to the
>    hardware GCSPR_EL1, making the in-memory vCPU GCSPR_EL2 stale.
>  - From above, must save on exit.
> 
> Restore is trivial, vCPU GCSCR_EL2/GCSPR_EL2 must be written to the
> hardware EL1 registers because someone else could be using it.
> 
> Quite a few other registers are saved only if guest E2H == 1 because of
> the same reason.
>

Ah, makes sense.
Thanks Wei-Lin!

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-21 11:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-12 19:11 [PATCH v19 00/14] KVM: arm64: Provide guest support for GCS Mark Brown
2026-08-12 19:12 ` [PATCH v19 01/14] arm64/gcs: Ensure FGTs for EL1 GCS instructions are disabled Mark Brown
2026-08-19 13:41   ` Leonardo Bras
2026-08-19 14:21     ` Mark Brown
2026-08-19 16:41       ` Leonardo Bras
2026-08-12 19:12 ` [PATCH v19 02/14] KVM: arm64: Fix FGT mapping for HFGITR_EL2.nGCSEPP Mark Brown
2026-08-19 13:55   ` Leonardo Bras
2026-08-19 16:42     ` Leonardo Bras
2026-08-12 19:12 ` [PATCH v19 03/14] KVM: arm64: Manage GCS access and registers for guests Mark Brown
2026-08-12 19:44   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-19 16:32   ` Leonardo Bras
2026-08-19 16:46     ` Mark Brown
2026-08-20 10:16       ` Leonardo Bras
2026-08-20 14:07         ` Mark Brown
2026-08-20 14:28           ` Leonardo Bras
2026-08-20 15:19             ` Mark Brown
2026-08-20 23:39             ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-08-21 11:26               ` Leonardo Bras [this message]
2026-08-21 12:30               ` Mark Brown
2026-08-21 14:07   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-08-12 19:12 ` [PATCH v19 04/14] KVM: arm64: Ensure GCS memory effects are visible Mark Brown
2026-08-19 17:23   ` Leonardo Bras
2026-08-19 18:08     ` Mark Brown
2026-08-20 11:32       ` Marc Zyngier
2026-08-12 19:12 ` [PATCH v19 05/14] KVM: arm64: Set PSTATE.EXLOCK when entering an exception Mark Brown
2026-08-12 19:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-20 17:04   ` Leonardo Bras
2026-08-20 17:46     ` Mark Brown
2026-08-21 14:15   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-08-21 23:01     ` Mark Brown
2026-08-12 19:12 ` [PATCH v19 06/14] KVM: arm64: Validate GCS exception lock when emulating ERET Mark Brown
2026-08-21 14:32   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-08-21 22:19     ` Mark Brown
2026-08-23 13:18       ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-08-12 19:12 ` [PATCH v19 07/14] KVM: arm64: Forward GCS exceptions to nested guests Mark Brown
2026-08-12 19:32   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-12 19:12 ` [PATCH v19 08/14] KVM: arm64: Enforce EXLOCK for SPSR and ELR Mark Brown
2026-08-12 19:12 ` [PATCH v19 09/14] KVM: arm64: Allow GCS to be enabled for guests Mark Brown
2026-08-12 19:12 ` [PATCH v19 10/14] KVM: selftests: arm64: Add GCS registers to get-reg-list Mark Brown
2026-08-12 19:30   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-12 19:12 ` [PATCH v19 11/14] KVM: selftests: arm64: Add GCS to set_id_regs Mark Brown
2026-08-12 19:12 ` [PATCH v19 12/14] KVM: selftests: arm64: Only restore SPSR_EL1 and ELR_EL1 if they change Mark Brown
2026-08-12 19:12 ` [PATCH v19 13/14] tools: Synchronise the kernel esr.h Mark Brown
2026-08-12 19:37   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-12 19:12 ` [PATCH v19 14/14] KVM: selftests: arm64: Add GCS EXLOCK exception emulation test Mark Brown
2026-08-12 19:37   ` sashiko-bot

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