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From: Harry Yoo <harry@kernel.org>
To: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	 Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
	Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>,
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	kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/5] mm/memory-failure: libstub: install the poisoned-memory EFI table
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2026 14:31:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aqlFnuIIECOyaweo@thinkstation> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aqk4NUnq92ftuUuJ@gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 15, 2026 at 05:39:44AM -0700, Breno Leitao wrote:
> Hi Harry,
> 
> Thanks a lot for the feedback.

Hi Breno, no problem!

> On Tue, Sep 15, 2026 at 01:12:54PM +0100, Harry Yoo wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 15, 2026 at 02:03:48AM -0700, Breno Leitao wrote:
> > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2026 at 06:11:53AM -0700, Breno Leitao wrote:
> > > > So I'd say we have two options:
> > > >
> > > > 1) Keep it similar to unaccepted memory, with 2M granularity.
> > > >    - Pro : Similar mental model as unnacepted memory
> > > >    - Cons: 2 MB might be a bit wasteful
> > > >
> > > > 2) Move to a linked list like the RFC, keeping it outside of the EFI
> > > >    table.
> > > >    - Pro: Reduce the memory granularities to page instead of 2M blocs.
> > > >    - Cons: Another way of passing memory information between kexec
> > > >      kernels.
> > > >
> > > > Any any other option or strong preference?
> > >
> > > Since nobody voiced a strong preference, I will stick with option (1),
> > > the bitmap, for these reasons:
> >
> > Not sure if this was discussed already, but perhaps we need to have
> > a chain of struct linux_efi_poisoned_memory rather than a single
> > bitmap, to easily add support for hot-added memory later?
> 
> Agreed, that's a good point. We could extend linux_efi_poisoned_memory
> with a ->next pointer, so that if we ever add hot-plug support later, we
> can link in another linux_efi_poisoned_memory. 
> 
> That said, I'm not sure hot-plug memory is really relevant here. Hot-plug
> is mostly used in VMs, while this feature is more host-side, so it doesn't
> seem like a great fit. Maybe it would only matter for servers where
> physical memory can be added while running (do those still exist? I
> recall IBM offered that feature at some point, but I'm not sure there are
> real customers for it).

IIRC CXL memory modules can be set up either by firmware or hot-plugged
after boot. Not sure how common the latter case is (or will be) in
practice, though.

> > Also, I wonder if some architectures have a scattered set of pfn
> > ranges so that the span from the start pfn to the end pfn being much
> > larger than the actual physical memory size.
> >
> > If so it might make more sense to have a bitmap for each pfn range.
> 
> Agreed, having a ->next in linux_efi_poisoned_memory is a good idea that
> we can lean on depending on whatever problem comes up down the road.
> 
> Very good point — let's keep this linux_efi_poisoned_memory chain idea in
> mind for whenever we need to expand it.

You mean 1) keeping the structure as-is for now (and expand later with
new EFI table version) or 2) adjusting the structure in the future
revision of this patchset?

-- 
Cheers,
Harry / Hyeonggon

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-15 13:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-09 13:05 [PATCH v4 0/5] mm/memory-failure: keep hardware-poisoned pages out of the next kexec Breno Leitao
2026-09-09 13:05 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] mm/memory-failure: efi: add the LINUX_EFI_POISONED_MEMORY configuration table Breno Leitao
2026-09-09 13:13   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-09 13:05 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] mm/memory-failure: libstub: install the poisoned-memory EFI table Breno Leitao
2026-09-09 13:19   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-09 14:00     ` Breno Leitao
2026-09-09 14:47   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2026-09-10 13:11     ` Breno Leitao
2026-09-15  9:03       ` Breno Leitao
2026-09-15 12:12         ` Harry Yoo
2026-09-15 12:39           ` Breno Leitao
2026-09-15 13:31             ` Harry Yoo [this message]
2026-09-15 13:38               ` Breno Leitao
2026-09-15 14:35                 ` Harry Yoo
2026-09-09 13:05 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] mm/memory-failure: efi: record hardware-poisoned frames into the poisoned-memory table Breno Leitao
2026-09-09 13:21   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-09 14:05     ` Breno Leitao
2026-09-09 13:05 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] mm/memory-failure: efi: answer whether a range is poisoned Breno Leitao
2026-09-09 13:17   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-09 13:05 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] mm/memory-failure: keep inherited poisoned frames out of the buddy allocator Breno Leitao
2026-09-09 13:24   ` sashiko-bot

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