From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: marcandre.lureau@redhat.com
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Michael Roth" <michael.roth@amd.com>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@oss.qualcomm.com>,
"Fabiano Rosas" <farosas@suse.de>,
"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dave@treblig.org>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
"Pierrick Bouvier" <pierrick.bouvier@oss.qualcomm.com>,
"Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>,
"Laurent Vivier" <lvivier@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/21] system: introduce a live data recorder facility
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2026 13:32:01 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <atDHwThz_5XPY9Yx@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <179206655287.744241.865023521920859070.b4-review@b4>
On Thu, Oct 15, 2026 at 04:15:52PM +0400, marcandre.lureau@redhat.com wrote:
> > This series introduces a new facility called 'tldr' which is a
> > live data recorder. This is intended to aid support of production
> > QEMU deployments, by providing a data collection facility that
> > can be left "always on", such that in the event of a QEMU crash
> > or guest OS crash, certain important information will be recorded.
> >
> > The data recorder has to be enabled by adding a "tldr-config"
> > object instance with -object / object_add.
> >
> > With this series, the data recorder collects
> >
> > * error_report/warn_report/error_printf messages
> > * QMP events
>
> It should probably be recorded at emission, not per monitor
Opps.
> > * QMP errors
> > * QMP commands, which are not query-XXX/qom-list,
> > or any command associated with a QMP error.
> > * qemu_log output
> >
> > The last item is intended primarily to be used in combination
> > with tracing and its 'log' backend, to have continuous
> > recording of certain interesting probes.
> >
> > Each type of data is collected in a distinct circular
> > buffer, such that high volumes of one type of data, does
> > not result in overwriting other types of low volume data.
> >
> > The data recorder is set to trigger on SIGBUS, SIGSEGV,
> > SIGILL, SIGFPE and SIGABRT, or manually via QMP 'tldr-dump'.
>
> Instead of allocating and dumping by a signal handler, why not use a file-backed
> mmap or a memfd? We would need to define a small fixed header for the file
> layout/buckets. This would avoid all the issues with signal handlers.
That would impose a continuous I/O workload on data recording, which
is something I wanted to explicitly avoid, until the time the data is
needed to be preserved. This only persists the final data, not any
intermediate data that is overwritten as the circular buffer wraps.
Coupling the in-memory layout to the on-disk layout also means that
dumps would always be the max size, since we would not have grow-on
demand buffers.
File backed would be even worse for the follow up goal of including
statistics, since it'd be putting disk I/O into the stats gathering
path.
> There would be a small window for consistency on crash, but that's probably
> acceptable.
>
> Plain ASCII section markers would probably be easier to deal with than emojis
With regards,
Daniel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-15 12:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-15 11:20 [PATCH 00/21] system: introduce a live data recorder facility Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-15 11:20 ` [PATCH 01/21] osdep: add 'ignore_value(x)' macro Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-15 11:20 ` [PATCH 02/21] system: move SIGBUS signal handling to signal.c Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-15 12:15 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-10-15 11:20 ` [PATCH 03/21] system: rename qemu_init_sigbus to qemu_init_crash_signals Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-15 12:15 ` marcandre.lureau
2026-10-15 11:20 ` [PATCH 04/21] system: run SIGBUS handler on alternate signal stack Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-15 11:20 ` [PATCH 05/21] util: expand alternate signal stack to all threads Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-15 11:20 ` [PATCH 06/21] osdep: provide dummy siginfo_t definition Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-15 11:20 ` [PATCH 07/21] util: introduce 'tldr', a system data recorder for crash handling Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-15 11:20 ` [PATCH 08/21] qapi: add 'tldr-dump' command for on-demand data recorder output Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-15 11:20 ` [PATCH 09/21] system: trigger TLDR crash dump on unhandled SIGBUS Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-15 11:20 ` [PATCH 10/21] system: simplify signal handler logic Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-15 11:20 ` [PATCH 11/21] main: allow SIGBUS in the main loop Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-15 11:20 ` [PATCH 12/21] system: enable SIGBUS handling on non-Linux platforms Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-15 11:20 ` [PATCH 13/21] system: enable crash dumps on SIGSEGV, SIGILL, SIGFPE and SIGABRT Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-15 11:20 ` [PATCH 14/21] util: introduce capture of textual messages in data recorder Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-15 11:20 ` [PATCH 15/21] util: capture warnings and errors in the " Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-15 11:20 ` [PATCH 16/21] monitor: remove obsolete/redundant exports Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-15 11:20 ` [PATCH 17/21] monitor: capture monitor commands and events in data recorder Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-15 15:57 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2026-10-15 16:11 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-15 11:20 ` [PATCH 18/21] log: enable directing log messages to " Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-15 11:20 ` [PATCH 19/21] tests/qtest: add API to declare an expected crash signal Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-15 11:20 ` [PATCH 20/21] qtest: add 'crash' command to generate 'authentic' process crashes Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-15 11:20 ` [PATCH 21/21] tests/qtest: add test to validate data recorder on crashes Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-10-15 12:15 ` [PATCH 00/21] system: introduce a live data recorder facility marcandre.lureau
2026-10-15 12:32 ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2026-10-15 17:34 ` Pierrick Bouvier
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