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From: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
To: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
Cc: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	 Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	 Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	printk@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH printk 3/6] printk: Evaluate flush policy in nbcon_allow_unsafe_takeover()
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2026 08:47:15 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <avH1ZVs2Hyx62jgQ@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87qzgunkof.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de>

On Mon, Nov 09, 2026 at 03:34:32PM +0106, John Ogness wrote:
> On 2026-11-09, Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org> wrote:
> > That is coming from:
> >
> >    550 static int nbcon_context_try_acquire_hostile(struct nbcon_context *ctxt,
> >    551                                              struct nbcon_state *cur)
> >    552 {
> >    553         unsigned int cpu = smp_processor_id();
> >    554         struct console *con = ctxt->console;
> >    555         struct nbcon_state new;
> >    556
> >    557         if (!ctxt->allow_unsafe_takeover)
> >    558                 return -EPERM;
> >    559
> >    560         /* Ensure caller is allowed to perform unsafe hostile takeovers. */
> >    561         if (WARN_ON_ONCE(ctxt->prio != NBCON_PRIO_PANIC))
> >    562                 return -EPERM;
> 
> Wow, you managed to get a hostile takeover. Out of curiousity, do you
> know how dangerous this really is? Can this basically just result in
> garbage on the network? Or is there dangers of running into the forest
> with NULL or garbage pointers? And is the danger acceptable?

Sure, I was playing with different scenarios, and this was done with a
test module that forces the takeover:

1) Acquire netcon_ext with nbcon_device_try_acquire(), so the console
   is owned at NORMAL priority and in an unsafe state

2) mdelay() for a few seconds without releasing it (simulating
   a possible netpoll busy TX queue -- or some other networkdelay)

3) echo b > /proc/sysrq-trigger from another CPU

--breno

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-09 16:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-09 12:31 [PATCH printk 0/6] Introduce policies for unsafe flushing John Ogness
2026-11-09 12:31 ` [PATCH printk 1/6] printk: Introduce and specify flush reasons John Ogness
2026-11-09 16:37   ` kernel test robot
2026-11-09 12:31 ` [PATCH printk 2/6] console: Introduce unsafe flush policy flags John Ogness
2026-11-09 22:05   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-11-10  8:49     ` John Ogness
2026-11-09 12:31 ` [PATCH printk 3/6] printk: Evaluate flush policy in nbcon_allow_unsafe_takeover() John Ogness
2026-11-09 14:08   ` Breno Leitao
2026-11-09 14:28     ` John Ogness
2026-11-09 16:47       ` Breno Leitao [this message]
2026-11-09 12:31 ` [PATCH printk 4/6] printk: Remove nbcon_atomic_flush_unsafe() John Ogness
2026-11-09 12:31 ` [PATCH printk 5/6] printk: Add panic+kexec flush point John Ogness
2026-11-10 12:31   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09 12:31 ` [PATCH printk 6/6] netconsole: Always perform unsafe flushing on panic/kdb/restart John Ogness

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