From: Christian Ruppert <arc@gmx.li>
To: Will Porter <mrwillporter@gmail.com>
Cc: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.com>, Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>,
linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Neil Andrews <neil@androos.io>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 13/16] ALSA: mixer_audient: Add enumerated controls
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2026 21:57:40 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <avOFQAGTVkCXgs2l@khmer.arcnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261110021302.1077745-1-mrwillporter@gmail.com>
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Hi Will,
On Mon, Nov 09, 2026 at 08:13:02PM -0600, Will Porter wrote:
> [...]
> > - Not sure if this is relevant for the iD14 but we might want to
> > apply something like DIFF 2 to make update events work on the
> > replaced controls 11 and possibly 60 [...]
>
> I left DIFF 2 out of my patches. I have no objection to it, but I
> cannot test it. The audio control interface of the iD14 MkI has no
> interrupt endpoint (bNumEndpoints is 0), so
> snd_usb_mixer_status_create() returns before it creates the URB. The
> device sends no status interrupts, and a knob change shows only by a
> read. On the iD14 the diff only moves the table-created controls from
> id 0 to their unit in id_elems and in the usbmixer proc file.
>
> Two things in sound/usb/mixer.c may matter for your EVO4 events:
>
> - snd_usb_mixer_interrupt_v2() skips an element when the unit has more
> than one element and info->control differs from the control selector
> in the message. Our elements leave control at 0. Would the event
> reach them?
> - The notify paths clear info->cached of the generic mixer, not the
> mixer_audient cache. Would a cached control report its old value
> after the event?
>
> Could you carry DIFF 2 with your EVO4 event change?
OK, thanks for the hints, I'll keep them in mind when I start working on
this. I haven't tested the diff either, for the moment it was only a
sketch so it's most probably incomplete. This is actually only required
for the EVO if I decide to replace generic controls - which I might
eventually to keep the philosophy of the driver consistent:
Until now I tried not to touch what was working, even if it's quirky but
as you cleaned up comparable controls for the iD I might just as well do
so for the EVO, too. A higher priority will be to figure out if and how I
can get events for controls not supported by the generic driver, though,
but that will require a few hours on a rainy day...
> [...]
> With these changes each of the five patches builds with W=1 without
> warnings, and checkpatch --strict reports nothing new.
> On the iD14 (stable 7.2.15) the read and write checks of the controls
> pass with the new version.
>
> For the next version: unless you would like another RFC round, I
> would send it as a normal series, on top of your four mixer_evo fixes
> as before. Does that work for you?
Actually... I was just about to propose the same but when looking at the
code in mixer.c you refer to above (interrupts and cache invalidation) I
realized that usb_mixer_elem_info already contains an integer array for
caching we could use instead of our manually allocated cache. I suspect we
should rework patch 10 accordingly. The positive side-effect of this would
be that info->cached management in the standard notify path would work
should we decide to use it one day.
I'll prepare a new patch 10 but won't be able to test before the week-end.
I'll send a new RFC after that. Do you think it makes sense to refactor
FU12 caching as well?
Cheers,
Christian
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-10 20:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-19 23:01 [PATCH 0/5] ALSA: usb-audio: Audient iD14 MkI vendor controls Will Porter
2026-10-19 23:01 ` [PATCH 1/5] ALSA: usb-audio: Give the Audient iD14 MkI its own mixer map Will Porter
2026-10-19 23:01 ` [PATCH 2/5] ALSA: usb-audio: Add Audient iD14 MkI monitor and routing controls Will Porter
2026-10-19 23:01 ` [PATCH 3/5] ALSA: usb-audio: Add Audient iD14 MkI mixer matrix Will Porter
2026-10-19 23:01 ` [PATCH 4/5] ALSA: usb-audio: Add Audient iD14 MkI write-only controls Will Porter
2026-10-19 23:01 ` [PATCH 5/5] ALSA: usb-audio: Replace the Audient iD14 MkI FU 12 control Will Porter
2026-10-20 13:10 ` [PATCH 0/5] ALSA: usb-audio: Audient iD14 MkI vendor controls Takashi Iwai
2026-10-26 18:36 ` Christian Ruppert
2026-10-26 21:44 ` Will Porter
2026-10-27 6:35 ` Takashi Iwai
2026-10-27 23:21 ` Christian Ruppert
2026-10-28 2:36 ` Will Porter
2026-11-01 0:00 ` [RFC PATCH 00/11] " Christian Ruppert
2026-11-01 0:00 ` [RFC PATCH 01/11] ALSA: rename mixer_evo to mixer_audient Christian Ruppert
2026-11-01 0:00 ` [RFC PATCH 02/11] ALSA: mixer_audient: explicitly define full control names Christian Ruppert
2026-11-01 0:00 ` [RFC PATCH 03/11] ALSA: mixer_audient: clarify USB control message definition Christian Ruppert
2026-11-01 0:00 ` [RFC PATCH 04/11] ALSA: mixer_audient: Add length check to USB transfer Christian Ruppert
2026-11-01 0:00 ` [RFC PATCH 05/11] ALSA: mixer_audient: make USB control transfer size configurable Christian Ruppert
2026-11-01 0:00 ` [RFC PATCH 06/11] ALSA: mixer_audient: Allow arbitrary boolean control values Christian Ruppert
2026-11-01 0:00 ` [RFC PATCH 07/11] ALSA: mixer_audient: Add integer range checks Christian Ruppert
2026-11-01 0:00 ` [RFC PATCH 08/11] ALSA: mixer_audient: Add control initialization at probe Christian Ruppert
2026-11-01 0:00 ` [RFC PATCH 09/11] ALSA: mixer_audient: Add readback-free parameter set Christian Ruppert
2026-11-01 0:00 ` [RFC PATCH 10/11] ALSA: mixer_audient: add control value caching Christian Ruppert
2026-11-01 0:00 ` [RFC PATCH 11/11] ALSA: mixer_audient: Create matrix programmatically Christian Ruppert
2026-11-01 17:35 ` [RFC PATCH 00/11] Re: ALSA: usb-audio: Audient iD14 MkI vendor controls Will Porter
2026-11-02 0:32 ` [RFC V2 PATCH 00/11] Re: ALSA: usb-audio: Audient iD14 MkI vendor Christian Ruppert
2026-11-02 0:32 ` [RFC V2 PATCH 01/11] ALSA: rename mixer_evo to mixer_audient Christian Ruppert
2026-11-02 0:32 ` [RFC V2 PATCH 02/11] ALSA: mixer_audient: explicitly define full control names Christian Ruppert
2026-11-02 0:32 ` [RFC V2 PATCH 03/11] ALSA: mixer_audient: clarify USB control message definition Christian Ruppert
2026-11-02 0:32 ` [RFC V2 PATCH 04/11] ALSA: mixer_audient: Add length check to USB transfer Christian Ruppert
2026-11-02 0:32 ` [RFC V2 PATCH 05/11] ALSA: mixer_audient: make USB control transfer size configurable Christian Ruppert
2026-11-02 0:32 ` [RFC V2 PATCH 06/11] ALSA: mixer_audient: Allow arbitrary boolean control values Christian Ruppert
2026-11-02 0:32 ` [RFC V2 PATCH 07/11] ALSA: mixer_audient: Add integer range checks Christian Ruppert
2026-11-02 0:32 ` [RFC V2 PATCH 08/11] ALSA: mixer_audient: Add control initialization at probe Christian Ruppert
2026-11-02 0:32 ` [RFC V2 PATCH 09/11] ALSA: mixer_audient: Add readback-free parameter set Christian Ruppert
2026-11-02 0:32 ` [RFC V2 PATCH 10/11] ALSA: mixer_audient: add control value caching Christian Ruppert
2026-11-02 0:32 ` [RFC V2 PATCH 11/11] ALSA: mixer_audient: Create matrix programmatically Christian Ruppert
2026-11-03 2:45 ` [RFC V2 PATCH 00/11] Re: ALSA: usb-audio: Audient iD14 MkI vendor Will Porter
2026-11-03 23:01 ` Christian Ruppert
2026-11-06 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH 00/16] ALSA: usb-audio: Audient driver and iD14 MkI support Will Porter
2026-11-06 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH 01/16] ALSA: rename mixer_evo to mixer_audient Will Porter
2026-11-06 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH 02/16] ALSA: mixer_audient: explicitly define full control names Will Porter
2026-11-06 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH 03/16] ALSA: mixer_audient: clarify USB control message definition Will Porter
2026-11-06 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH 04/16] ALSA: mixer_audient: Add length check to USB transfer Will Porter
2026-11-06 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH 05/16] ALSA: mixer_audient: make USB control transfer size configurable Will Porter
2026-11-06 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH 06/16] ALSA: mixer_audient: Allow arbitrary boolean control values Will Porter
2026-11-06 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH 07/16] ALSA: mixer_audient: Add integer range checks Will Porter
2026-11-06 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH 08/16] ALSA: mixer_audient: Add control initialization at probe Will Porter
2026-11-06 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH 09/16] ALSA: mixer_audient: Add readback-free parameter set Will Porter
2026-11-06 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH 10/16] ALSA: mixer_audient: add control value caching Will Porter
2026-11-06 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH 11/16] ALSA: mixer_audient: Create matrix programmatically Will Porter
2026-11-06 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH 12/16] ALSA: mixer_audient: Add a step size to integer controls Will Porter
2026-11-06 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH 13/16] ALSA: mixer_audient: Add enumerated controls Will Porter
2026-11-06 16:53 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-06 20:29 ` Will Porter
2026-11-09 22:30 ` Christian Ruppert
2026-11-10 2:13 ` Will Porter
2026-11-10 20:57 ` Christian Ruppert [this message]
2026-11-12 2:37 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] ALSA: mixer_audient: Cache rework and simplifications Will Porter
2026-11-12 2:37 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] ALSA: mixer_audient: Fold in the review changes to patches 12-16 Will Porter
2026-11-12 2:37 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] ALSA: mixer_audient: Use the cache of usb_mixer_elem_info Will Porter
2026-11-12 2:37 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] ALSA: mixer_audient: Replace three flags with an access mode Will Porter
2026-11-12 2:37 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] ALSA: mixer_audient: Fill the cache on first use Will Porter
2026-11-12 2:37 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] ALSA: mixer_audient: Use one get and one put for all control types Will Porter
2026-11-12 2:37 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] ALSA: mixer_audient: Use the same cache for the iD14 MkI FU 12 control Will Porter
2026-11-06 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH 14/16] ALSA: usb-audio: Give the Audient iD14 MkI its own mixer map Will Porter
2026-11-06 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH 15/16] ALSA: mixer_audient: Add Audient iD14 MkI controls Will Porter
2026-11-06 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH 16/16] ALSA: mixer_audient: Replace the Audient iD14 MkI FU 12 control Will Porter
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