[Bug 41762] New: radeon default power_profile "default" makes laptop overheat (Mobility Radeon HD 3650)

[Bug 41762] New: radeon default power_profile "default" makes laptop overheat (Mobility Radeon HD 3650)

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           Summary: radeon default power_profile "default" makes laptop
                    overheat (Mobility Radeon HD 3650)
           Product: DRI
           Version: unspecified
          Platform: x86-64 (AMD64)
        OS/Version: Linux (All)
            Status: NEW
          Severity: major
          Priority: medium
         Component: DRM/Radeon
        AssignedTo: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
        ReportedBy: pasik@iki.fi


I'm using a laptop with Mobility Radeon HD 3650, and I've had overheating
problems for a quite some time, with multiple kernel versions.

The issue happens at least with Fedora 14, Fedora 15 and latest Fedora 16
(beta).

As a default radeon power_profile "default" is being used, and it causes laptop
overheating and emergency thermal shutdowns.. on a completely idle system! It
seems the power management doesn't work with the opensource radeon driver on
this laptop (HP EliteBook 8530p). See below for analysis and more info.

When I manually switch the radeon power_profile to "low" (see below) the
temperature of the laptop decreases over 10 degrees celsius, making the laptop
much cooler and also the fans will immediately slow down because the
temperature goes down. Any idea why the "default" power_profile doesn't
automatically run the card at lower engine/memory clock speeds?


Here's more information from Fedota 16 beta (x86_64) liveCD.. notice how the
temperature goes down from 84C to 72C when switching to power_profile "low":

# cat /etc/redhat-release 
Fedora release 16 (Verne)

# uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 3.1.0-0.rc6.git0.3.fc16.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Sep 16
12:26:22 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

# lspci|grep -i vga
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3650

$ cat /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/radeon_pm_info
default engine clock: 600000 kHz
current engine clock: 594000 kHz
default memory clock: 700000 kHz
current memory clock: 693000 kHz
voltage: 1100 mV
PCIE lanes: 16


# cat /sys/devices/virtual/thermal/thermal_zone3/device/path 
\_TZ_.CPUZ

$ cat /sys/devices/virtual/thermal/thermal_zone3/temp 
84000

# cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile
default

# echo low > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile

(wait for 5 mins.. and notice how fans slow down)

$ cat /sys/devices/virtual/thermal/thermal_zone3/temp 
72000

# cat /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/radeon_pm_info
default engine clock: 600000 kHz
current engine clock: 334120 kHz
default memory clock: 700000 kHz
current memory clock: 405000 kHz
voltage: 900 mV
PCIE lanes: 16


dmesg for the f16beta 3.1.0-rc6 kernel available here:
http://pasik.reaktio.net/fedora/f16/radeon/f16-beta-laptop-radeon-dmesg.txt

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--- Comment #1 from Pasi Kärkkäinen <pasik@iki.fi> 2011-10-20 14:19:14 PDT ---
Created attachment 52608
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dmesg for Linux 3.1.0-rc9

dmesg for Linux 3.1.0-0.rc9.git0.0.fc16.x86_64 (Fedora 16 TC1 kernel).

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--- Comment #2 from Pasi Kärkkäinen <pasik@iki.fi> 2011-12-26 13:14:15 UTC ---
Created attachment 54834
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dmesg from F16 livecd, Linux kernel 3.1.0

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--- Comment #3 from Pasi Kärkkäinen <pasik@iki.fi> 2011-12-26 13:14:50 UTC ---
Created attachment 54835
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dmesg from F16 livecd, Linux kernel 3.1.0, with drm.debug=0x2

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--- Comment #4 from Pasi Kärkkäinen <pasik@iki.fi> 2011-12-26 13:18:18 PST ---

I verified the bug is still in Fedora 16 final, which uses Linux kernel
3.1.0-7.fc16.x86_64 .

Here's some output about radeon power states with "drm.debug=0x2" boot cmdline
parameter:

[    3.543677] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states], 7 Power State(s)
[    3.543679] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states], State 0: Default
[    3.543681] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],    Default
[    3.543683] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],    16 PCIE Lanes
[    3.543685] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],    3 Clock Mode(s)
[    3.543687] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],            0 e: 600000     m:
700000       v: 1100 No display only
[    3.543689] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],            1 e: 600000     m:
700000       v: 1100
[    3.543691] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],            2 e: 600000     m:
700000       v: 1100
[    3.543694] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states], State 1: Performance
[    3.543695] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],    16 PCIE Lanes
[    3.543697] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],    Single display only
[    3.543699] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],    3 Clock Mode(s)
[    3.543701] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],            0 e: 110000     m:
405000       v: 900  No display only
[    3.543703] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],            1 e: 337000     m:
405000       v: 900
[    3.543705] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],            2 e: 600000     m:
700000       v: 1100
[    3.543708] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states], State 2: Battery
[    3.543709] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],    16 PCIE Lanes
[    3.543711] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],    Single display only
[    3.543713] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],    3 Clock Mode(s)
[    3.543714] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],            0 e: 110000     m:
405000       v: 900  No display only
[    3.543717] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],            1 e: 337000     m:
405000       v: 900
[    3.543719] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],            2 e: 337000     m:
405000       v: 900
[    3.543721] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states], State 3: Default
[    3.543723] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],    16 PCIE Lanes
[    3.543725] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],    3 Clock Mode(s)
[    3.543727] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],            0 e: 300000     m:
405000       v: 1100 No display only
[    3.543729] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],            1 e: 450000     m:
700000       v: 1100
[    3.543731] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],            2 e: 450000     m:
700000       v: 1100
[    3.543733] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states], State 4: Performance
[    3.543735] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],    16 PCIE Lanes
[    3.543737] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],    3 Clock Mode(s)
[    3.543739] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],            0 e: 337000     m:
700000       v: 1100 No display only
[    3.543741] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],            1 e: 337000     m:
700000       v: 1100
[    3.543743] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],            2 e: 600000     m:
700000       v: 1100
[    3.543746] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states], State 5: Battery
[    3.543747] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],    16 PCIE Lanes
[    3.543749] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],    3 Clock Mode(s)
[    3.543751] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],            0 e: 337000     m:
405000       v: 900  No display only
[    3.543753] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],            1 e: 337000     m:
405000       v: 900
[    3.543756] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],            2 e: 337000     m:
405000       v: 900
[    3.543758] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states], State 6: Default
[    3.543760] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],    16 PCIE Lanes
[    3.543761] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],    3 Clock Mode(s)
[    3.543763] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],            0 e: 337000     m:
405000       v: 900  No display only
[    3.543765] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],            1 e: 337000     m:
405000       v: 900
[    3.543768] [drm:radeon_pm_print_states],            2 e: 337000     m:
405000       v: 900
[    3.543797] [drm] radeon: power management initialized



Do those power states look OK ? Any comments?

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--- Comment #5 from Pasi Kärkkäinen <pasik@iki.fi> 2011-12-26 13:24:05 PST ---

Sorry, the paste is badly line wrapped, but the dmesg attachment has the whole
proper kernel log with drm.debug=0x2

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--- Comment #6 from Pasi Kärkkäinen <pasik@iki.fi> 2012-01-29 07:39:36 PST ---

As I understand "Mobility Radeon HD3650" is based on R600 chipset, so the
feature matrix in http://wiki.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature says all the power
saving/management features are implemented for this card.

Is this an error in the matrix, or a bug in the radeon driver?

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--- Comment #7 from Tadej Janež <tadej.janez@tadej.hicsalta.si> 2012-05-13 07:09:40 PDT ---
Hi, Pasi!

I have the same laptop (HP EliteBook 8530p) and I'm also experiencing the same
overheating issues.

Thanks to your tip on how to switch to "low" radeon power_profile, I've managed
to cool my laptop for ~15 degrees.
The temperatures were around 67 - 69 degrees Celsius before and now they are
around 54 - 56 degrees Celsius.

Does any DRM/Radeon developer have any thoughts on this issue?
Should we consider changing the default behaviour to "low" power_profile?
Or should we try to raise the awareness of users about different power
profiles?

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--- Comment #8 from Pasi Kärkkäinen <pasik@iki.fi> 2012-05-13 08:44:47 PDT ---

Yeah, many people have the overheating problem with radeon driver and laptops.. 

In my opinion the default radeon power profile is *broken*, and it should be
switched to "low", or then the default profile should be fixed to work
properly..

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--- Comment #9 from aleritty <aleritty@gmail.com> ---
I tested this on a lot of kernels and distribution both iX86 or x64

My card is a Mobility Radeon HD 4500, RV710

Actually I think that the profile have to be set on low by default, to prevent
hardware damages.

But this is not enough, because with proprietary drivers the card run around
55°C on my system, but with the radeon and low profile is around 70°C, and with
the default the temperature (idle system) go around 82°C for most of the time.

This can easily harm a system.

Actually this bug assume a big importance because most of the affected chip
aren't supported anymore from proprietary drivers, so a user can unconsciously
run into troubles and hardware damage after a simply upgrade.

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I am suffering of the same thing on Fedora 20. Even during install.

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--- Comment #12 from Dmitri Kolobov <disjunctor@gmail.com> ---
I have exactly the same problem as described by previous posts (Radeon 3650,
Asus F8Va laptop. OpenSuSE 12-13.2, Fedora).
With low profile the temperature is about 70°C, and with the default one the
temperature (idle system) goes to 80-85°C. DPM mode shows the same behavior.

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This is still happening on Ubuntu 15.10 running the default kernel. My problems
when away after setting the profile to 'low'.

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