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could you tell us which extensions are actually needed? I am sure you can
understand, that we can't simply implement all of the missing ones in a wink of
an eye, so we have to prefer the important ones
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--- Comment #3 from Pierre Moreau <pierre.morrow-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org> ---
Looking at the OpenGL 2.1 specification, I haven’t been able to find any
extension, that was promoted to a core feature in OpenGL <= 2.1, that is not
implemented by Nouveau.
Some of the extensions exposed by NVIDIA are clearly not part of the OpenGL 2.1
specification, such as GL_ARB_shading_language_420pack [0], which was approved
in 2011, whereas the OpenGL 2.1 specification is from Dec. 2006.
I had a quick look at about 10 extensions exposed by NVIDIA but not by Nouveau,
and they were mostly approved >2008. One extension,
GL_EXT_framebuffer_multisample [1], was approved in 2005, but it became a core
feature only in OpenGL 3.0.
From what I understand (correct me if I am wrong), OpenGL extensions, as long
as they haven’t been made into a core feature, are completely optional in order
to support a given OpenGL version.
[0]: https://www.opengl.org/registry/specs/ARB/shading_language_420pack.txt
[1]: https://www.opengl.org/registry/specs/EXT/framebuffer_multisample.txt
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> could you tell us which extensions are actually needed?
In the source code, I spent kwin search for extensions by string ("GL_ and
revealed the following files, which is held on the expansion test.
./kwin/effects/blur/blurshader.cpp
./kwin/eglonxbackend.cpp
./kwin/libkwineffects/kwinglplatform.cpp
./kwin/libkwineffects/kwingltexture.cpp
./kwin/libkwineffects/kwinglutils.cpp
./kwin/libkwineffects/kwinglutils_funcs.cpp
./kwin/scene_opengl.cpp
And determined the expansion are absent in nouveau, but there is nvidia.
GL_EXT_texture_format_BGRA8888
GL_ARB_framebuffer_object
GL_OES_mapbuffer
GL_OES_texture_3D
And also found that the extension is not in the nvidia, but there is in
nouveau.
GL_OES_EGL_image
Problem effect is "Taskbar thumbnail"
./kwin/effects/taskbarthumbnail/*
When you mouse hover over a tab on the taskbar instead of the window shows a
blank thumbnail translucent rectangle of the appropriate size.
When you switch on the OpenGL 1.2 kwin thumbnail is displayed.
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--- Comment #6 from Ilia Mirkin <imirkin-FrUbXkNCsVf2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> ---
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> And determined the expansion are absent in nouveau, but there is nvidia.
>
> GL_EXT_texture_format_BGRA8888
> GL_OES_mapbuffer
> GL_OES_texture_3D
These are ES extensions and not available in a desktop GL profile, on nvidia or
nouveau. They should, however, be present on a mesa ES profile. See
https://people.freedesktop.org/~imirkin/glxinfo/#p=es&v=Mesa%2010.6.0
> GL_ARB_framebuffer_object
Yeah, we don't support that one while NVIDIA does. It requires a lot of
work-arounding to handle all the cases not supported by the HW. Tripping those
up gets you off the fastpath in the blob driver and it slows down bigtime. We
have no such fallbacks in nouveau.
However GL_EXT_framebuffer_object is supported, and doesn't allow the
unsupportable conditions (like attachments of different sizes).
> Problem effect is "Taskbar thumbnail"
> ./kwin/effects/taskbarthumbnail/*
>
> When you mouse hover over a tab on the taskbar instead of the window shows a
> blank thumbnail translucent rectangle of the appropriate size.
> When you switch on the OpenGL 1.2 kwin thumbnail is displayed.
That sounds like you're hitting a situation where you have a depth buffer
that's incompatible with the color buffer. We're supposed to fall back in that
situation, but don't. As a result, there's no depth, which can lead to no
rendering. Once this is supported, we could probably look at supporting
ARB_framebuffer_object, as similar mechanisms would be required.
Is there a link to the code I could glance at to see if that's likely the
issue?
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--- Comment #7 from Ilya Indigo <13ilya-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> ---
> Looking at the OpenGL 2.1 specification, I haven’t been able to find any extension, that was promoted to a core feature in OpenGL <= 2.1, that is not implemented by Nouveau.
If this card is able to support later expansion, which should be implemented to
the later video card, which shows a list of nvidia, why not add them to this
card?
> could you tell us which extensions are actually needed? I am sure you can understand, that we can't simply implement all of the missing ones in a wink of an eye, so we have to prefer the important ones.
I thought, if in Mesa for nouveau declared support for OpenGL 4.1 at least, the
increasingly younger expansion should be implemented already, just depending on
the graphics card will connect them to a different set?
Or something I do not understand, and for each GPU you write from scratch every
extension?
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> Is there a link to the code I could glance at to see if that's likely the issue?
You mean the source code kwin?
I have it attached.
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--- Comment #9 from Ilia Mirkin <imirkin-FrUbXkNCsVf2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> ---
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> If this card is able to support later expansion, which should be implemented
> to the later video card, which shows a list of nvidia, why not add them to
> this card?
They are using software to work around the hardware's limitations. That
software is not written for nouveau.
> I thought, if in Mesa for nouveau declared support for OpenGL 4.1 at least,
For GF100+ GPUs, yes. NV67 is a fair bit older.
> the increasingly younger expansion should be implemented already, just
> depending on the graphics card will connect them to a different set?
>
> Or something I do not understand, and for each GPU you write from scratch
> every extension?
Each hardware generation supports what it supports. For NV67, which is
effectively a NV4x, that's basically the DX9 feature set.
ARB_framebuffer_object is, in essence, a DX10 feature, but NVIDIA was able to
provide the software fallbacks for the cases in the ext that aren't handled,
and fast-path the cases that are. Nouveau hasn't done this. Patches welcome.
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--- Comment #10 from Ilia Mirkin <imirkin-FrUbXkNCsVf2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> ---
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> > Is there a link to the code I could glance at to see if that's likely the issue?
> You mean the source code kwin?
> I have it attached.
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=128441
https://github.com/KDE/kde-workspace/blob/KDE/4.11/kwin/effects/taskbarthumbnail/taskbarthumbnail.cpp
Unfortunately this is too abstract in order for me to tell how it works under
the hood.
I might recommend building this with DEBUG_GLRENDERTARGET and seeing if you hit
any issues. (At least in the code, this causes a bunch of error checking to be
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