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From: SF Markus Elfring <elfring@users.sourceforge.net>
To: kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Difficulties for compilation without extra optimisation
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2017 09:00:54 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c834d3ed-3da3-e2b5-7f4b-9e36bfcb388b@users.sourceforge.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171203162256.4ea0750d@vmware.local.home>

> Why would you compile the kernel without optimization?

Can another reason be occasionally still relevant?

Will the compilation be a bit quicker when extra data processing
could be omitted?


> There's many places in the kernel that WILL NOT BUILD without optimization.

Would you like to keep the software situation in this way?


> In fact, we do a lot of tricks to make sure that things work the way
> we expect it to, because we add broken code that only gets compiled out
> when gcc optimizes the code the way we expect it to be,
> and the kernel build will break otherwise.

* Can this goal be also achieved without the addition of “broken code”?

* How do you think about to improve the error handling there?

Regards,
Markus

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From: elfring at users.sourceforge.net (SF Markus Elfring)
Subject: [Linux-kselftest-mirror] Difficulties for compilation without extra optimisation
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 10:00:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c834d3ed-3da3-e2b5-7f4b-9e36bfcb388b@users.sourceforge.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171203162256.4ea0750d@vmware.local.home>

> Why would you compile the kernel without optimization?

Can another reason be occasionally still relevant?

Will the compilation be a bit quicker when extra data processing
could be omitted?


> There's many places in the kernel that WILL NOT BUILD without optimization.

Would you like to keep the software situation in this way?


> In fact, we do a lot of tricks to make sure that things work the way
> we expect it to, because we add broken code that only gets compiled out
> when gcc optimizes the code the way we expect it to be,
> and the kernel build will break otherwise.

* Can this goal be also achieved without the addition of “broken code”?

* How do you think about to improve the error handling there?

Regards,
Markus
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From: elfring@users.sourceforge.net (SF Markus Elfring)
Subject: [Linux-kselftest-mirror] Difficulties for compilation without extra optimisation
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 10:00:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c834d3ed-3da3-e2b5-7f4b-9e36bfcb388b@users.sourceforge.net> (raw)
Message-ID: <20171204090054.DBT-xmeT-u8jIoBulS5OYsogxEHFuMk73MXtA8HX9Zo@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171203162256.4ea0750d@vmware.local.home>

> Why would you compile the kernel without optimization?

Can another reason be occasionally still relevant?

Will the compilation be a bit quicker when extra data processing
could be omitted?


> There's many places in the kernel that WILL NOT BUILD without optimization.

Would you like to keep the software situation in this way?


> In fact, we do a lot of tricks to make sure that things work the way
> we expect it to, because we add broken code that only gets compiled out
> when gcc optimizes the code the way we expect it to be,
> and the kernel build will break otherwise.

* Can this goal be also achieved without the addition of “broken code”?

* How do you think about to improve the error handling there?

Regards,
Markus
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From: SF Markus Elfring <elfring@users.sourceforge.net>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Trond Myklebust <trondmy@primarydata.com>
Subject: Re: Difficulties for compilation without extra optimisation
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 10:00:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c834d3ed-3da3-e2b5-7f4b-9e36bfcb388b@users.sourceforge.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171203162256.4ea0750d@vmware.local.home>

> Why would you compile the kernel without optimization?

Can another reason be occasionally still relevant?

Will the compilation be a bit quicker when extra data processing
could be omitted?


> There's many places in the kernel that WILL NOT BUILD without optimization.

Would you like to keep the software situation in this way?


> In fact, we do a lot of tricks to make sure that things work the way
> we expect it to, because we add broken code that only gets compiled out
> when gcc optimizes the code the way we expect it to be,
> and the kernel build will break otherwise.

* Can this goal be also achieved without the addition of “broken code”?

* How do you think about to improve the error handling there?

Regards,
Markus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-12-04  9:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-07 16:53 [PATCH RFC v1] nfs/write: Use common error handling code in nfs_lock_and_join_requests() SF Markus Elfring
2017-11-07 16:53 ` SF Markus Elfring
2017-12-03 14:15 ` Difficulties for compilation without extra optimisation SF Markus Elfring
2017-12-03 14:15   ` SF Markus Elfring
2017-12-03 14:15   ` [Linux-kselftest-mirror] " SF Markus Elfring
2017-12-03 14:15   ` elfring
2017-12-03 15:17   ` Trond Myklebust
2017-12-03 15:17     ` Trond Myklebust
2017-12-03 15:17     ` Trond Myklebust
2017-12-03 15:17     ` [Linux-kselftest-mirror] " Trond Myklebust
2017-12-03 15:17     ` trondmy
2017-12-03 21:22     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-12-03 21:22       ` Steven Rostedt
2017-12-03 21:22       ` [Linux-kselftest-mirror] " Steven Rostedt
2017-12-03 21:22       ` rostedt
2017-12-03 21:56       ` SF Markus Elfring
2017-12-03 21:56         ` SF Markus Elfring
2017-12-03 21:56         ` [Linux-kselftest-mirror] " SF Markus Elfring
2017-12-03 21:56         ` elfring
2017-12-04  2:40         ` Steven Rostedt
2017-12-04  2:40           ` Steven Rostedt
2017-12-04  2:40           ` [Linux-kselftest-mirror] " Steven Rostedt
2017-12-04  2:40           ` rostedt
2017-12-04  9:55           ` SF Markus Elfring
2017-12-04  9:55             ` SF Markus Elfring
2017-12-04  9:55             ` [Linux-kselftest-mirror] " SF Markus Elfring
2017-12-04  9:55             ` elfring
2017-12-04  9:00       ` SF Markus Elfring [this message]
2017-12-04  9:00         ` SF Markus Elfring
2017-12-04  9:00         ` [Linux-kselftest-mirror] " SF Markus Elfring
2017-12-04  9:00         ` elfring
2017-12-04  9:48         ` Steven Rostedt
2017-12-04  9:48           ` Steven Rostedt
2017-12-04  9:48           ` [Linux-kselftest-mirror] " Steven Rostedt
2017-12-04  9:48           ` rostedt
2017-12-04 10:18           ` SF Markus Elfring
2017-12-04 10:18             ` SF Markus Elfring
2017-12-04 10:18             ` [Linux-kselftest-mirror] " SF Markus Elfring
2017-12-04 10:18             ` elfring

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