From: "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>
To: "seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: "paul@xen.org" <paul@xen.org>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"yosry@kernel.org" <yosry@kernel.org>,
"vkuznets@redhat.com" <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
"dwmw2@infradead.org" <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/11] KVM: VMX: Read 32-bit GPR values for ENCLS instructions outside of 64-bit mode
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2026 01:40:25 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cd8960cd3ec963bc60edd551e25d6f15a86a9e0b.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aeAtAm0yezpj9EP1@google.com>
On Wed, 2026-04-15 at 17:27 -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2026, Kai Huang wrote:
> > On Wed, 2026-04-15 at 14:37 -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2026, Kai Huang wrote:
> > > But IIRC, that's "just" the architectural behavior. Hardware implementations may
> > > choose to preserve values.
> >
> > That seems to be a violation to a "basic" architecture :-)
>
> Not really. The SDM says they aren't guaranteed to be _preserved_. It doesn't
> say that they will be zeroed. And so literally any value in bits 63:32 is
> architecturally legal.
Ah OK.
>
> > > > If vCPU is in 32-bit mode then it should not be able to access 64-bit GPR?
> > >
> > > Yes and no. Mostly no. Architecturally, they're all off limits. But, again
> > > going from memory that's ~15 years old at this point, IIRC the behavior is that
> > > writes in 32-bit modes zero bits 63:32, same as 32-bit writes in 64-bit mode.
> > >
> > > Take all of my memory with a huge grain of salt, it's very possible I'm
> > > mis-remembering hallway discussions from a long time ago.
> >
> > I tend to think it's beyond the point we need to worry about. It shouldn't
> > happen even the guest is buggy or malicious AFAICT, unless KVM somehow
> > messes things up itself, in which case a WARN() is more reasonable I
> > suppose.
>
> KVM needs to worry about it from the perspective of not consuming garbage. As
> above, KVM cannot assume bits 63:32 are zero, and so needs to be careful to only
> consume bits 31:0.
>
> > This also made me look into whether how VMENTER handles GPRs when vCPU is
> > not in 64-bit mode. I see nothing described in the SDM except VMENTRY
> > checks "guest's" RIP and RFLAGS. Maybe KVM should explicitly clear high
> > bits of GPRs when going back to compatible mode from 64-bit mode, or maybe
> > hardware does it?
>
> Definitely not. VM-Exit => VM-Enter must be transparent to the guest. E.g. if
> a host IRQ arrives, register state shouldn't magically change from the guest's
> perspective.
>
Yeah I mean KVM needs to enumerate the behaviour.
> If hardware clobbers state, so be it. But I don't want KVM to
> actively clobber registers in this case.
OK.
As you said "not preserved" doesn't architecturally mean "zeroed":
Acked-by: Kai Huang <kai.huang@intel.com>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-16 1:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-09 23:56 [PATCH 00/11] KVM: x86: Clean up kvm_<reg>_{read,write}() mess Sean Christopherson
2026-04-09 23:56 ` [PATCH 01/11] KVM: SVM: Truncate INVLPGA address in compatibility mode Sean Christopherson
2026-04-21 23:26 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-04-09 23:56 ` [PATCH 02/11] KVM: x86/xen: Bug the VM if 32-bit KVM observes a 64-bit mode hypercall Sean Christopherson
2026-04-09 23:56 ` [PATCH 03/11] KVM: x86/xen: Don't truncate RAX when handling hypercall from protected guest Sean Christopherson
2026-04-13 10:36 ` Binbin Wu
2026-04-15 21:29 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-09 23:56 ` [PATCH 04/11] KVM: VMX: Read 32-bit GPR values for ENCLS instructions outside of 64-bit mode Sean Christopherson
2026-04-13 12:19 ` Huang, Kai
2026-04-15 21:37 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-15 23:32 ` Huang, Kai
2026-04-16 0:27 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-16 1:40 ` Huang, Kai [this message]
2026-04-09 23:56 ` [PATCH 05/11] KVM: x86: Trace hypercall register *after* truncating values for 32-bit Sean Christopherson
2026-04-21 23:27 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-04-09 23:56 ` [PATCH 06/11] KVM: x86: Move kvm_<reg>_{read,write}() definitions to x86.h Sean Christopherson
2026-04-21 23:32 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-04-22 0:40 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-22 20:03 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-04-23 19:17 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-09 23:56 ` [PATCH 07/11] KVM: x86: Add mode-aware versions of kvm_<reg>_{read,write}() helpers Sean Christopherson
2026-04-14 8:26 ` Huang, Kai
2026-04-14 15:42 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-14 22:40 ` Huang, Kai
2026-04-14 9:02 ` Binbin Wu
2026-04-23 22:12 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-09 23:56 ` [PATCH 08/11] KVM: x86: Drop non-raw kvm_<reg>_write() helpers Sean Christopherson
2026-04-09 23:56 ` [PATCH 09/11] KVM: nSVM: Use kvm_rax_read() now that it's mode-aware Sean Christopherson
2026-04-21 23:19 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-04-09 23:56 ` [PATCH 10/11] Revert "KVM: VMX: Read 32-bit GPR values for ENCLS instructions outside of 64-bit mode" Sean Christopherson
2026-04-16 1:42 ` Huang, Kai
2026-04-09 23:56 ` [PATCH 11/11] KVM: x86: Harden is_64_bit_hypercall() against bugs on 32-bit kernels Sean Christopherson
2026-04-16 1:43 ` Huang, Kai
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