From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Scheduler fairness problem on 2.6 series
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 14:18:44 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cfgbnu$fmf$1@gatekeeper.tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <411AAEDA.9070601@kolivas.org>
Con Kolivas wrote:
> Prakash K. Cheemplavam wrote:
>
>> |
>> | I don't think it is the overhead. I rather think the way the kernel
>> | schedulers gives mpich and the cpu bound program resources is unfair.
>>
>> Well, I don't know whether it helps, but I ran a profiler and these are
>> the functions which cause so much wasted CPU cycles when running 16
>> processes of my example with mpich:
>>
>> 124910 9.8170 vmlinux tcp_poll
>> 123356 9.6949 vmlinux sys_select
>> 85634 6.7302 vmlinux do_select
>> 71858 5.6475 vmlinux sysenter_past_esp
>> 62093 4.8801 vmlinux kfree
>> 51658 4.0600 vmlinux __copy_to_user_ll
>> 37495 2.9468 vmlinux max_select_fd
>> 36949 2.9039 vmlinux __kmalloc
>> 22700 1.7841 vmlinux __copy_from_user_ll
>> 14587 1.1464 vmlinux do_gettimeofday
>>
>> Is anything scheduler related?
>
>
> No
>
> It looks like your select timeouts are too short and when the cpu load
> goes up they repeatedly timeout wasting cpu cycles.
> I quote from `man select_tut` under the section SELECT LAW:
>
> 1. You should always try use select without a timeout. Your program
> should have nothing to do if there is no data available. Code
> that depends on timeouts is not usually portable and difficult
> to debug.
There's a generalization which should confuse novice users... correctly
used a timeout IS a debugging technique. Useful to detect when a peer
has gone walkabout, as a common example.
Sounds as if the timeout is way too low here, however. Perhaps they are
using it as poorly-done polling? In any case, not kernel misbehaviour.
--
-bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com)
"The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the
last possible moment - but no longer" -me
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Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2004-08-11 2:21 ` Scheduler fairness problem on 2.6 series (Attn: Nick Piggin and others) spaminos-ker
2004-08-11 2:23 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-11 2:45 ` Peter Williams
2004-08-11 2:47 ` Peter Williams
2004-08-11 3:23 ` Peter Williams
2004-08-11 3:31 ` Con Kolivas
2004-08-11 3:46 ` Peter Williams
2004-08-11 3:44 ` Peter Williams
2004-08-13 0:13 ` spaminos-ker
2004-08-13 1:44 ` Peter Williams
2004-08-11 3:09 ` Con Kolivas
2004-08-11 10:24 ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-08-11 11:26 ` Scheduler fairness problem on 2.6 series Con Kolivas
2004-08-11 12:05 ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-08-11 19:22 ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-08-11 23:42 ` Con Kolivas
2004-08-12 8:08 ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-08-12 18:18 ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2004-08-12 2:04 ` Scheduler fairness problem on 2.6 series (Attn: Nick Piggin and others) spaminos-ker
2004-08-12 2:24 ` spaminos-ker
2004-08-12 2:53 ` Con Kolivas
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