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From: Si-Wei Liu <si-wei.liu@oracle.com>
To: Lei Yang <leiyang@redhat.com>
Cc: mst@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, eperezma@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/7] vdpa: decouple reset of iotlb mapping from device reset
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 16:31:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d3f13f97-d5ae-4bf9-be9e-aed021fd7a7e@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPpAL=yHDqn1AztEcN3MpS8o4M+BL_HVy02FdpiHN7DWd91HwQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Yang Lei,

Thanks for testing my patches and reporting! As for the issue, could you 
please try what I posted in:

https://lore.kernel.org/virtualization/1698275594-19204-1-git-send-email-si-wei.liu@oracle.com/

and let me know how it goes? Thank you very much!

Thanks,
-Siwei

On 10/25/2023 2:41 AM, Lei Yang wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 1:27 AM Si-Wei Liu <si-wei.liu@oracle.com> wrote:
> Hello Si-Wei
>> Thanks a lot for testing! Please be aware that there's a follow-up fix
>> for a potential oops in this v4 series:
>>
> The first, when I did not apply this patch [1], I will also hit this
> patch mentioned problem. After I applied this patch, this problem will
> no longer to hit again. But I hit another issues, about the error
> messages please review the attached file.
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/virtualization/1698102863-21122-1-git-send-email-si-wei.liu@oracle.com/
>
> My test steps:
> git clone https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git
> cd  linux/
> b4 am 1697880319-4937-1-git-send-email-si-wei.liu@oracle.com
> b4 am 20231018171456.1624030-2-dtatulea@nvidia.com
> b4 am 1698102863-21122-1-git-send-email-si-wei.liu@oracle.com
> git am ./v4_20231018_dtatulea_vdpa_add_support_for_vq_descriptor_mappings.mbx
> git am ./v4_20231021_si_wei_liu_vdpa_decouple_reset_of_iotlb_mapping_from_device_reset.mbx
> git am ./20231023_si_wei_liu_vhost_vdpa_fix_null_pointer_deref_in__compat_vdpa_reset.mbx
> cp /boot/config-5.14.0-377.el9.x86_64 .config
> make -j 32
> make modules_install
> make install
>
> Thanks
>
> Lei
>> https://lore.kernel.org/virtualization/1698102863-21122-1-git-send-email-si-wei.liu@oracle.com/
>>
>> Would be nice to have it applied for any tests.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Siwei
>>
>> On 10/23/2023 11:51 PM, Lei Yang wrote:
>>> QE tested this series v4 with regression testing on real nic, there is
>>> no new regression bug.
>>>
>>> Tested-by: Lei Yang <leiyang@redhat.com>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 6:02 AM Si-Wei Liu <si-wei.liu@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 10/22/2023 8:51 PM, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>>> Hi Si-Wei:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 5:28 PM Si-Wei Liu <si-wei.liu@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>>>> In order to reduce needlessly high setup and teardown cost
>>>>>> of iotlb mapping during live migration, it's crucial to
>>>>>> decouple the vhost-vdpa iotlb abstraction from the virtio
>>>>>> device life cycle, i.e. iotlb mappings should be left
>>>>>> intact across virtio device reset [1]. For it to work, the
>>>>>> on-chip IOMMU parent device could implement a separate
>>>>>> .reset_map() operation callback to restore 1:1 DMA mapping
>>>>>> without having to resort to the .reset() callback, the
>>>>>> latter of which is mainly used to reset virtio device state.
>>>>>> This new .reset_map() callback will be invoked only before
>>>>>> the vhost-vdpa driver is to be removed and detached from
>>>>>> the vdpa bus, such that other vdpa bus drivers, e.g.
>>>>>> virtio-vdpa, can start with 1:1 DMA mapping when they
>>>>>> are attached. For the context, those on-chip IOMMU parent
>>>>>> devices, create the 1:1 DMA mapping at vdpa device creation,
>>>>>> and they would implicitly destroy the 1:1 mapping when
>>>>>> the first .set_map or .dma_map callback is invoked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This patchset is rebased on top of the latest vhost tree.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] Reducing vdpa migration downtime because of memory pin / maps
>>>>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/qemu-devel@nongnu.org/msg953755.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> v4:
>>>>>> - Rework compatibility using new .compat_reset driver op
>>>>> I still think having a set_backend_feature()
>>>> This will overload backend features with the role of carrying over
>>>> compatibility quirks, which I tried to avoid from. While I think the
>>>> .compat_reset from the v4 code just works with the backend features
>>>> acknowledgement (and maybe others as well) to determine, but not
>>>> directly tie it to backend features itself. These two have different
>>>> implications in terms of requirement, scope and maintaining/deprecation,
>>>> better to cope with compat quirks in explicit and driver visible way.
>>>>
>>>>>     or reset_map(clean=true) might be better.
>>>> An explicit op might be marginally better in driver writer's point of
>>>> view. Compliant driver doesn't have to bother asserting clean_map never
>>>> be true so their code would never bother dealing with this case, as
>>>> explained in the commit log for patch 5 "vhost-vdpa: clean iotlb map
>>>> during reset for older userspace":
>>>>
>>>> "
>>>>        The separation of .compat_reset from the regular .reset allows
>>>>        vhost-vdpa able to know which driver had broken behavior before, so it
>>>>        can apply the corresponding compatibility quirk to the individual
>>>> driver
>>>>        whenever needed.  Compared to overloading the existing .reset with
>>>>        flags, .compat_reset won't cause any extra burden to the implementation
>>>>        of every compliant driver.
>>>> "
>>>>
>>>>>     As it tries hard to not introduce new stuff on the bus.
>>>> Honestly I don't see substantial difference between these other than the
>>>> color. There's no single best solution that stands out among the 3. And
>>>> I assume you already noticed it from all the above 3 approaches will
>>>> have to go with backend features negotiation, that the 1st vdpa reset
>>>> before backend feature negotiation will use the compliant version of
>>>> .reset that doesn't clean up the map. While I don't think this nuance
>>>> matters much to existing older userspace apps, as the maps should
>>>> already get cleaned by previous process in vhost_vdpa_cleanup(), but if
>>>> bug-for-bug behavioral compatibility is what you want, module parameter
>>>> will be the single best answer.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> -Siwei
>>>>
>>>>> But we can listen to others for sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>

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From: Si-Wei Liu <si-wei.liu@oracle.com>
To: Lei Yang <leiyang@redhat.com>
Cc: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	mst@redhat.com, eperezma@redhat.com, sgarzare@redhat.com,
	dtatulea@nvidia.com, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/7] vdpa: decouple reset of iotlb mapping from device reset
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 16:31:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d3f13f97-d5ae-4bf9-be9e-aed021fd7a7e@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPpAL=yHDqn1AztEcN3MpS8o4M+BL_HVy02FdpiHN7DWd91HwQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Yang Lei,

Thanks for testing my patches and reporting! As for the issue, could you 
please try what I posted in:

https://lore.kernel.org/virtualization/1698275594-19204-1-git-send-email-si-wei.liu@oracle.com/

and let me know how it goes? Thank you very much!

Thanks,
-Siwei

On 10/25/2023 2:41 AM, Lei Yang wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 1:27 AM Si-Wei Liu <si-wei.liu@oracle.com> wrote:
> Hello Si-Wei
>> Thanks a lot for testing! Please be aware that there's a follow-up fix
>> for a potential oops in this v4 series:
>>
> The first, when I did not apply this patch [1], I will also hit this
> patch mentioned problem. After I applied this patch, this problem will
> no longer to hit again. But I hit another issues, about the error
> messages please review the attached file.
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/virtualization/1698102863-21122-1-git-send-email-si-wei.liu@oracle.com/
>
> My test steps:
> git clone https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git
> cd  linux/
> b4 am 1697880319-4937-1-git-send-email-si-wei.liu@oracle.com
> b4 am 20231018171456.1624030-2-dtatulea@nvidia.com
> b4 am 1698102863-21122-1-git-send-email-si-wei.liu@oracle.com
> git am ./v4_20231018_dtatulea_vdpa_add_support_for_vq_descriptor_mappings.mbx
> git am ./v4_20231021_si_wei_liu_vdpa_decouple_reset_of_iotlb_mapping_from_device_reset.mbx
> git am ./20231023_si_wei_liu_vhost_vdpa_fix_null_pointer_deref_in__compat_vdpa_reset.mbx
> cp /boot/config-5.14.0-377.el9.x86_64 .config
> make -j 32
> make modules_install
> make install
>
> Thanks
>
> Lei
>> https://lore.kernel.org/virtualization/1698102863-21122-1-git-send-email-si-wei.liu@oracle.com/
>>
>> Would be nice to have it applied for any tests.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Siwei
>>
>> On 10/23/2023 11:51 PM, Lei Yang wrote:
>>> QE tested this series v4 with regression testing on real nic, there is
>>> no new regression bug.
>>>
>>> Tested-by: Lei Yang <leiyang@redhat.com>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 6:02 AM Si-Wei Liu <si-wei.liu@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 10/22/2023 8:51 PM, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>>> Hi Si-Wei:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 5:28 PM Si-Wei Liu <si-wei.liu@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>>>> In order to reduce needlessly high setup and teardown cost
>>>>>> of iotlb mapping during live migration, it's crucial to
>>>>>> decouple the vhost-vdpa iotlb abstraction from the virtio
>>>>>> device life cycle, i.e. iotlb mappings should be left
>>>>>> intact across virtio device reset [1]. For it to work, the
>>>>>> on-chip IOMMU parent device could implement a separate
>>>>>> .reset_map() operation callback to restore 1:1 DMA mapping
>>>>>> without having to resort to the .reset() callback, the
>>>>>> latter of which is mainly used to reset virtio device state.
>>>>>> This new .reset_map() callback will be invoked only before
>>>>>> the vhost-vdpa driver is to be removed and detached from
>>>>>> the vdpa bus, such that other vdpa bus drivers, e.g.
>>>>>> virtio-vdpa, can start with 1:1 DMA mapping when they
>>>>>> are attached. For the context, those on-chip IOMMU parent
>>>>>> devices, create the 1:1 DMA mapping at vdpa device creation,
>>>>>> and they would implicitly destroy the 1:1 mapping when
>>>>>> the first .set_map or .dma_map callback is invoked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This patchset is rebased on top of the latest vhost tree.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] Reducing vdpa migration downtime because of memory pin / maps
>>>>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/qemu-devel@nongnu.org/msg953755.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> v4:
>>>>>> - Rework compatibility using new .compat_reset driver op
>>>>> I still think having a set_backend_feature()
>>>> This will overload backend features with the role of carrying over
>>>> compatibility quirks, which I tried to avoid from. While I think the
>>>> .compat_reset from the v4 code just works with the backend features
>>>> acknowledgement (and maybe others as well) to determine, but not
>>>> directly tie it to backend features itself. These two have different
>>>> implications in terms of requirement, scope and maintaining/deprecation,
>>>> better to cope with compat quirks in explicit and driver visible way.
>>>>
>>>>>     or reset_map(clean=true) might be better.
>>>> An explicit op might be marginally better in driver writer's point of
>>>> view. Compliant driver doesn't have to bother asserting clean_map never
>>>> be true so their code would never bother dealing with this case, as
>>>> explained in the commit log for patch 5 "vhost-vdpa: clean iotlb map
>>>> during reset for older userspace":
>>>>
>>>> "
>>>>        The separation of .compat_reset from the regular .reset allows
>>>>        vhost-vdpa able to know which driver had broken behavior before, so it
>>>>        can apply the corresponding compatibility quirk to the individual
>>>> driver
>>>>        whenever needed.  Compared to overloading the existing .reset with
>>>>        flags, .compat_reset won't cause any extra burden to the implementation
>>>>        of every compliant driver.
>>>> "
>>>>
>>>>>     As it tries hard to not introduce new stuff on the bus.
>>>> Honestly I don't see substantial difference between these other than the
>>>> color. There's no single best solution that stands out among the 3. And
>>>> I assume you already noticed it from all the above 3 approaches will
>>>> have to go with backend features negotiation, that the 1st vdpa reset
>>>> before backend feature negotiation will use the compliant version of
>>>> .reset that doesn't clean up the map. While I don't think this nuance
>>>> matters much to existing older userspace apps, as the maps should
>>>> already get cleaned by previous process in vhost_vdpa_cleanup(), but if
>>>> bug-for-bug behavioral compatibility is what you want, module parameter
>>>> will be the single best answer.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> -Siwei
>>>>
>>>>> But we can listen to others for sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>


  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-25 23:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-21  9:25 [PATCH v4 0/7] vdpa: decouple reset of iotlb mapping from device reset Si-Wei Liu
2023-10-21  9:25 ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-10-21  9:25 ` [PATCH v4 1/7] vdpa: introduce .reset_map operation callback Si-Wei Liu
2023-10-21  9:25   ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-10-21  9:25 ` [PATCH v4 2/7] vhost-vdpa: reset vendor specific mapping to initial state in .release Si-Wei Liu
2023-10-21  9:25   ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-10-21  9:25 ` [PATCH v4 3/7] vhost-vdpa: introduce IOTLB_PERSIST backend feature bit Si-Wei Liu
2023-10-21  9:25   ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-10-21  9:25 ` [PATCH v4 4/7] vdpa: introduce .compat_reset operation callback Si-Wei Liu
2023-10-21  9:25   ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-10-21  9:25 ` [PATCH v4 5/7] vhost-vdpa: clean iotlb map during reset for older userspace Si-Wei Liu
2023-10-21  9:25   ` Si-Wei Liu
     [not found]   ` <8a3ec6465bc150fba804f34d456115c4f8a29c70.camel@nvidia.com>
2023-10-23 23:03     ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-10-23 23:03       ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-10-24  5:45   ` Jason Wang
2023-10-24  5:45     ` Jason Wang
2023-10-24 16:21     ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-10-24 16:21       ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-10-24 16:25       ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-10-24 16:25         ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-10-25  1:15         ` Jason Wang
2023-10-25  1:15           ` Jason Wang
2023-10-21  9:25 ` [PATCH v4 6/7] vdpa/mlx5: implement .reset_map driver op Si-Wei Liu
2023-10-21  9:25   ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-10-21  9:25 ` [PATCH v4 7/7] vdpa_sim: implement .reset_map support Si-Wei Liu
2023-10-21  9:25   ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-10-23  3:51 ` [PATCH v4 0/7] vdpa: decouple reset of iotlb mapping from device reset Jason Wang
2023-10-23  3:51   ` Jason Wang
2023-10-23 22:00   ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-10-23 22:00     ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-10-24  6:51     ` Lei Yang
2023-10-24 17:27       ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-10-24 17:27         ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-10-25  9:41         ` Lei Yang
2023-10-25 23:31           ` Si-Wei Liu [this message]
2023-10-25 23:31             ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-10-26  6:16             ` Lei Yang

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