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From: Boris Pismenny <borispismenny@gmail.com>
To: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>,
	Boris Pismenny <borisp@mellanox.com>,
	kuba@kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, saeedm@nvidia.com,
	hch@lst.de, sagi@grimberg.me, axboe@fb.com, kbusch@kernel.org,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, edumazet@google.com
Cc: yorayz@nvidia.com, boris.pismenny@gmail.com, benishay@nvidia.com,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	ogerlitz@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 net-next 04/15] net/tls: expose get_netdev_for_sock
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 20:43:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <da5594c1-47ed-e4aa-4c28-7b61529399fd@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ae89bba7-2541-e994-41da-fb791ced7aa7@gmail.com>


On 10/12/2020 5:39, David Ahern wrote:
> On 12/9/20 12:41 AM, Boris Pismenny wrote:
> 
>> is applied there is relevant here. More generally, this offload is
>> very similar in concept to TLS offload (tls_device).
>>
> 
> I disagree with the TLS comparison. As an example, AIUI the TLS offload
> works with userspace sockets, and it is a protocol offload.
> 

First, tls offload can be used by kernel sockets just as userspace
sockets. Second, it is not a protocol offload per-se, if you are looking
for a carch-phrase to define it partial/autonomous offload is what I
think fits better.

IMO, the concepts are very similar, and those who implemented offload
using the tls_device APIs will find this offload fits both hardware drivers
naturally.

To compare between them, please look at the NDOs, in particular the add/del/resync.
Additionally, see the similarity between skb->ddp_crc and skb->decrypted.
Also, consider the software-fallback flows used in both.

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From: Boris Pismenny <borispismenny@gmail.com>
To: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>,
	Boris Pismenny <borisp@mellanox.com>,
	kuba@kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, saeedm@nvidia.com,
	hch@lst.de, sagi@grimberg.me, axboe@fb.com, kbusch@kernel.org,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, edumazet@google.com
Cc: boris.pismenny@gmail.com, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, benishay@nvidia.com, ogerlitz@nvidia.com,
	yorayz@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 net-next 04/15] net/tls: expose get_netdev_for_sock
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 20:43:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <da5594c1-47ed-e4aa-4c28-7b61529399fd@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ae89bba7-2541-e994-41da-fb791ced7aa7@gmail.com>


On 10/12/2020 5:39, David Ahern wrote:
> On 12/9/20 12:41 AM, Boris Pismenny wrote:
> 
>> is applied there is relevant here. More generally, this offload is
>> very similar in concept to TLS offload (tls_device).
>>
> 
> I disagree with the TLS comparison. As an example, AIUI the TLS offload
> works with userspace sockets, and it is a protocol offload.
> 

First, tls offload can be used by kernel sockets just as userspace
sockets. Second, it is not a protocol offload per-se, if you are looking
for a carch-phrase to define it partial/autonomous offload is what I
think fits better.

IMO, the concepts are very similar, and those who implemented offload
using the tls_device APIs will find this offload fits both hardware drivers
naturally.

To compare between them, please look at the NDOs, in particular the add/del/resync.
Additionally, see the similarity between skb->ddp_crc and skb->decrypted.
Also, consider the software-fallback flows used in both.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-11 18:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-07 21:06 [PATCH v1 net-next 00/15] nvme-tcp receive offloads Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06 ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 01/15] iov_iter: Skip copy in memcpy_to_page if src==dst Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06   ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-08  0:39   ` David Ahern
2020-12-08  0:39     ` David Ahern
2020-12-08 14:30     ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-08 14:30       ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 02/15] net: Introduce direct data placement tcp offload Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06   ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-08  0:42   ` David Ahern
2020-12-08  0:42     ` David Ahern
2020-12-08 14:36     ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-08 14:36       ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-09  0:38       ` David Ahern
2020-12-09  0:38         ` David Ahern
2020-12-09  8:15         ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-09  8:15           ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-10  4:26           ` David Ahern
2020-12-10  4:26             ` David Ahern
2020-12-11  2:01             ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-12-11  2:01               ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-12-11  2:43               ` David Ahern
2020-12-11  2:43                 ` David Ahern
2020-12-11 18:45                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-12-11 18:45                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-12-11 18:58                   ` Eric Dumazet
2020-12-11 18:58                     ` Eric Dumazet
2020-12-11 19:59                   ` David Ahern
2020-12-11 19:59                     ` David Ahern
2020-12-11 23:05                     ` Jonathan Lemon
2020-12-11 23:05                       ` Jonathan Lemon
2020-12-13 18:34                   ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-13 18:34                     ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-13 18:21             ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-13 18:21               ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-15  5:19               ` David Ahern
2020-12-15  5:19                 ` David Ahern
2020-12-17 19:06                 ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-17 19:06                   ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-18  0:44                   ` David Ahern
2020-12-18  0:44                     ` David Ahern
2020-12-09  0:57   ` David Ahern
2020-12-09  0:57     ` David Ahern
2020-12-09  1:11     ` David Ahern
2020-12-09  1:11       ` David Ahern
2020-12-09  8:28       ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-09  8:28         ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-09  8:25     ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-09  8:25       ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 03/15] net: Introduce crc offload for tcp ddp ulp Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06   ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 04/15] net/tls: expose get_netdev_for_sock Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06   ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-09  1:06   ` David Ahern
2020-12-09  1:06     ` David Ahern
2020-12-09  7:41     ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-09  7:41       ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-10  3:39       ` David Ahern
2020-12-10  3:39         ` David Ahern
2020-12-11 18:43         ` Boris Pismenny [this message]
2020-12-11 18:43           ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 05/15] nvme-tcp: Add DDP offload control path Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06   ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-10 17:15   ` Shai Malin
2020-12-10 17:15     ` Shai Malin
2020-12-14  6:38     ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-14  6:38       ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-15 13:33       ` Shai Malin
2020-12-15 13:33         ` Shai Malin
2020-12-17 18:51         ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-17 18:51           ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 06/15] nvme-tcp: Add DDP data-path Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06   ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 07/15] nvme-tcp : Recalculate crc in the end of the capsule Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06   ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-15 14:07   ` Shai Malin
2020-12-15 14:07     ` Shai Malin
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 08/15] nvme-tcp: Deal with netdevice DOWN events Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06   ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 09/15] net/mlx5: Header file changes for nvme-tcp offload Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06   ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 10/15] net/mlx5: Add 128B CQE for NVMEoTCP offload Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06   ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 11/15] net/mlx5e: TCP flow steering for nvme-tcp Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06   ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 12/15] net/mlx5e: NVMEoTCP DDP offload control path Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06   ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 13/15] net/mlx5e: NVMEoTCP, data-path for DDP offload Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06   ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-18  0:57   ` David Ahern
2020-12-18  0:57     ` David Ahern
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 14/15] net/mlx5e: NVMEoTCP statistics Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06   ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 15/15] net/mlx5e: NVMEoTCP workaround CRC after resync Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06   ` Boris Pismenny
2021-01-14  1:27 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 00/15] nvme-tcp receive offloads Sagi Grimberg
2021-01-14  1:27   ` Sagi Grimberg
2021-01-14  4:47   ` David Ahern
2021-01-14  4:47     ` David Ahern
2021-01-14 19:21     ` Boris Pismenny
2021-01-14 19:21       ` Boris Pismenny
2021-01-14 19:17   ` Boris Pismenny
2021-01-14 19:17     ` Boris Pismenny
2021-01-14 21:07     ` Sagi Grimberg
2021-01-14 21:07       ` Sagi Grimberg

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