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From: Till Kamppeter <till.kamppeter@gmail.com>
To: Johannes Meixner <jsmeix@suse.de>,
	printing-architecture@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org>,
	Jai Luthra <luthrajaiji@gmail.com>,
	Zdenek Dohnal <zdohnal@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Printing-architecture] Automatic printer setup with Printer Applications
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2021 19:47:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dec22729-8bb4-d897-2c29-878a6728f562@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3e467a3bd51a7bc8083e6f06532db4ad@suse.de>

On 24/02/2021 15:46, Johannes Meixner wrote:
> 
> I like to add that in enterprise environments
> automated printer setup is almost never needed.
>

Yes, that is true.

All about automatic print queue creation with Printer Applications is 
for end-user-oriented desktop distros.

> So nowadays any further efforts for automated printer setup
> could be mostly a waste of time - time that could be better
> spend elsewhere (even if that is just more time for beer ;-)
> 
> The more I think about it the more I like the idea
> to deprectate all printer setup tools and related stuff
> except what CUPS itself provides.
> 
> For the exceptional cases only documentation should be sufficient
> like "when you have 'ACME SpecialPrinter XL' do this and that".
> 

Yes, I am also in favor of deprecating the classic printer setup tool.

Instead, we need the following:

1. A local/network service manager (could be an item of GNOME Control 
Center): Take avahi-discover. It lists a lot of services, local (Avahi 
0.8.x+) and network services, sorted by network interface, then by 
service type. The tool I have in mind should list them in a 
user-friendly way, so that one sees for example a Printer Application, 
shows some property info like printing/scanning/faxout, button to open 
web interface, button to open IPP System Service status/config panel, 
list of printers (and scanners) with properties like size class (A4, A3, 
larger, smaller, ...), color/gray, duplex, ... Also useful entries for 
services which are no Printer Applications (for example your router, no 
need to know its IP, you have a button for its web interface now). All 
info needed by this tool comes from DNS-SD (Avahi on Linux).

2. A "driver finder": A tool which helps you to find the correct Printer 
Application if you have Acme LaserStar 1000+ and this is not a 
driverless printer. It more or less guides the user through the scheme 
of Michael's posting in this thread.

    Till

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-24 18:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-23 19:27 [Printing-architecture] Automatic printer setup with Printer Applications Till Kamppeter
2021-02-24  7:37 ` Johannes Meixner
2021-02-24  8:03 ` Zdenek Dohnal
2021-02-24 11:25   ` Till Kamppeter
2021-02-24 12:01     ` Johannes Meixner
2021-02-24 13:51       ` Till Kamppeter
2021-02-25 10:30         ` Johannes Meixner
2021-02-25 13:37           ` Till Kamppeter
2021-02-25 14:00             ` Johannes Meixner
2021-02-25 13:53           ` Michael Sweet
2021-02-24 12:48     ` Solomon Peachy
2021-02-24 14:01       ` Johannes Meixner
2021-02-24 17:23         ` Till Kamppeter
2021-02-26  9:17           ` Johannes Meixner
2021-02-24 14:17       ` Till Kamppeter
2021-02-25 15:28         ` Solomon Peachy
2021-02-25 22:54           ` Till Kamppeter
2021-02-26 14:59             ` Solomon Peachy
2021-02-25  8:28       ` Zdenek Dohnal
2021-02-25 14:54         ` Solomon Peachy
2021-02-26 10:03           ` Johannes Meixner
2021-02-26 12:28             ` Solomon Peachy
2021-02-27 21:07               ` Michael Sweet
2021-02-24 14:17 ` Michael Sweet
2021-02-24 14:46   ` Johannes Meixner
2021-02-24 18:47     ` Till Kamppeter [this message]
2021-02-24 17:40   ` Till Kamppeter
2021-02-24 17:48     ` Michael Sweet
2021-02-24 19:21       ` Till Kamppeter
2021-02-24 20:01         ` Michael Sweet
2021-02-24 20:15           ` Till Kamppeter
2021-02-25  8:52   ` Zdenek Dohnal
2021-02-25  9:24     ` Till Kamppeter
2021-02-25  9:54       ` Zdenek Dohnal
2021-02-25 13:43       ` Michael Sweet
2021-02-25 19:39         ` Till Kamppeter
2021-02-25 13:33     ` Michael Sweet
2021-02-25 15:24       ` Till Kamppeter
2021-02-25 15:30         ` Michael Sweet
2021-02-25 21:51           ` Till Kamppeter
2021-03-02 10:58 ` [Printing-architecture] Future of Printer Setup Tools Till Kamppeter
2021-03-02 12:04   ` Johannes Meixner
2021-03-02 22:52     ` Till Kamppeter

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