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From: Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	 Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Kumar, Sanjay K" <sanjay.k.kumar@intel.com>,
	"Sun, Yi Y" <yi.y.sun@intel.com>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] Use 1st-level for DMA remapping in guest
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 10:48:32 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dfd9b7a2-5553-328a-08eb-16c8a3a2644e@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19D58D1F1@SHSMSX104.ccr.corp.intel.com>

Hi Kevin,

On 9/24/19 3:00 PM, Tian, Kevin wrote:
>>>>       '-----------'
>>>>       '-----------'
>>>>
>>>> This patch series only aims to achieve the first goal, a.k.a using
> first goal? then what are other goals? I didn't spot such information.
> 

The overall goal is to use IOMMU nested mode to avoid shadow page table
and VMEXIT when map an gIOVA. This includes below 4 steps (maybe not
accurate, but you could get the point.)

1) GIOVA mappings over 1st-level page table;
2) binding vIOMMU 1st level page table to the pIOMMU;
3) using pIOMMU second level for GPA->HPA translation;
4) enable nested (a.k.a. dual stage) translation in host.

This patch set aims to achieve 1).

> Also earlier you mentioned the new approach (nested) is more secure
> than shadowing. why?
> 

My bad! After reconsideration, I realized that it's not "more secure".

Thanks for pointing this out.

Best regards,
Baolu
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From: Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>
Cc: baolu.lu@linux.intel.com, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Kumar, Sanjay K" <sanjay.k.kumar@intel.com>,
	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	"Sun, Yi Y" <yi.y.sun@intel.com>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] Use 1st-level for DMA remapping in guest
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 10:48:32 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dfd9b7a2-5553-328a-08eb-16c8a3a2644e@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19D58D1F1@SHSMSX104.ccr.corp.intel.com>

Hi Kevin,

On 9/24/19 3:00 PM, Tian, Kevin wrote:
>>>>       '-----------'
>>>>       '-----------'
>>>>
>>>> This patch series only aims to achieve the first goal, a.k.a using
> first goal? then what are other goals? I didn't spot such information.
> 

The overall goal is to use IOMMU nested mode to avoid shadow page table
and VMEXIT when map an gIOVA. This includes below 4 steps (maybe not
accurate, but you could get the point.)

1) GIOVA mappings over 1st-level page table;
2) binding vIOMMU 1st level page table to the pIOMMU;
3) using pIOMMU second level for GPA->HPA translation;
4) enable nested (a.k.a. dual stage) translation in host.

This patch set aims to achieve 1).

> Also earlier you mentioned the new approach (nested) is more secure
> than shadowing. why?
> 

My bad! After reconsideration, I realized that it's not "more secure".

Thanks for pointing this out.

Best regards,
Baolu

  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-25  2:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-23 12:24 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Use 1st-level for DMA remapping in guest Lu Baolu
2019-09-23 12:24 ` Lu Baolu
2019-09-23 12:24 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] iommu/vt-d: Move domain_flush_cache helper into header Lu Baolu
2019-09-23 12:24   ` Lu Baolu
2019-09-23 12:24 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] iommu/vt-d: Add first level page table interfaces Lu Baolu
2019-09-23 12:24   ` Lu Baolu
2019-09-23 20:31   ` Raj, Ashok
2019-09-23 20:31     ` Raj, Ashok
2019-09-24  1:38     ` Lu Baolu
2019-09-24  1:38       ` Lu Baolu
2019-09-25  4:30       ` Peter Xu
2019-09-25  4:30         ` Peter Xu
2019-09-25  4:38         ` Tian, Kevin
2019-09-25  4:38           ` Tian, Kevin
2019-09-25  5:24           ` Peter Xu
2019-09-25  5:24             ` Peter Xu
2019-09-25  6:52             ` Lu Baolu
2019-09-25  6:52               ` Lu Baolu
2019-09-25  7:32               ` Tian, Kevin
2019-09-25  7:32                 ` Tian, Kevin
2019-09-25  8:35                 ` Peter Xu
2019-09-25  8:35                   ` Peter Xu
2019-09-26  1:42                 ` Lu Baolu
2019-09-26  1:42                   ` Lu Baolu
2019-09-25  5:21   ` Peter Xu
2019-09-25  5:21     ` Peter Xu
2019-09-26  2:35     ` Lu Baolu
2019-09-26  2:35       ` Lu Baolu
2019-09-26  3:49       ` Peter Xu
2019-09-26  3:49         ` Peter Xu
2019-09-27  2:27         ` Lu Baolu
2019-09-27  2:27           ` Lu Baolu
2019-09-27  5:34           ` Peter Xu
2019-09-27  5:34             ` Peter Xu
2019-09-28  8:23             ` Lu Baolu
2019-09-28  8:23               ` Lu Baolu
2019-09-29  5:25               ` Peter Xu
2019-09-29  5:25                 ` Peter Xu
2019-10-08  2:20                 ` Lu Baolu
2019-10-08  2:20                   ` Lu Baolu
2019-09-23 12:24 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] iommu/vt-d: Map/unmap domain with mmmap/mmunmap Lu Baolu
2019-09-23 12:24   ` Lu Baolu
2019-09-25  5:00   ` Tian, Kevin
2019-09-25  5:00     ` Tian, Kevin
2019-09-25  7:06     ` Lu Baolu
2019-09-25  7:06       ` Lu Baolu
2019-09-23 12:24 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] iommu/vt-d: Identify domains using first level page table Lu Baolu
2019-09-23 12:24   ` Lu Baolu
2019-09-25  6:50   ` Peter Xu
2019-09-25  6:50     ` Peter Xu
2019-09-25  7:35     ` Tian, Kevin
2019-09-25  7:35       ` Tian, Kevin
2019-09-23 19:27 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] Use 1st-level for DMA remapping in guest Jacob Pan
2019-09-23 19:27   ` Jacob Pan
2019-09-23 20:25   ` Raj, Ashok
2019-09-23 20:25     ` Raj, Ashok
2019-09-24  4:40     ` Lu Baolu
2019-09-24  4:40       ` Lu Baolu
2019-09-24  7:00     ` Tian, Kevin
2019-09-24  7:00       ` Tian, Kevin
2019-09-25  2:48       ` Lu Baolu [this message]
2019-09-25  2:48         ` Lu Baolu
2019-09-25  6:56         ` Peter Xu
2019-09-25  6:56           ` Peter Xu
2019-09-25  7:21           ` Tian, Kevin
2019-09-25  7:21             ` Tian, Kevin
2019-09-25  7:45             ` Peter Xu
2019-09-25  7:45               ` Peter Xu
2019-09-25  8:02               ` Tian, Kevin
2019-09-25  8:02                 ` Tian, Kevin
2019-09-25  8:52                 ` Peter Xu
2019-09-25  8:52                   ` Peter Xu
2019-09-26  1:37                   ` Lu Baolu
2019-09-26  1:37                     ` Lu Baolu
2019-09-24  4:27   ` Lu Baolu
2019-09-24  4:27     ` Lu Baolu

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