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From: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>
To: Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Cc: Ionela Voinescu <ionela.voinescu@arm.com>,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org, mark.rutland@arm.com,
	suzuki.poulose@arm.com, sudeep.holla@arm.com, rjw@rjwysocki.net,
	peterz@infradead.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, viresh.kumar@linaro.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 7/7] clocksource/drivers/arm_arch_timer: validate arch_timer_rate
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2020 11:12:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <eeafe486-e408-b229-24ef-329649a13f70@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <289c6110-b7ea-1d61-d795-551723263803@arm.com>

On 12/02/2020 10:55, Lukasz Luba wrote:
>> Because, as the commit message outlines it, such a frequency is terribly
>> out of spec?
> 
> I don't see in the RM that < 1MHz is terribly out of spec.
> 'Frequency
> Increments at a fixed frequency, typically in the range 1-50MHz.
> Can support one or more alternative operating modes in which it increments by larger amounts at a
> lower frequency, typically for power-saving.'
> 
> There is even an example how to operate at 20kHz and increment by 500.
> 
> I don't know the code if it's supported, thought.
> 

For that one case the value reported by CNTFRQ shouldn't change - it's still
a timer that looks like is operating at 10MHz, but under the hood is doing
bigger increments at lower freq.

As I was trying to get to, this patch isn't validating the actual frequency
the timer operates on, rather that whatever is reported by CNTFRQ is
somewhat sane (which here means [1, 50]MHz, although we just check the
lower bound).

[...]

>> And? It seems to address a potential issue where the time frequency
>> is out of spec, and makes sure we don't end up with additional problems
>> in the AMU code.
> 
> This patch just prints warning, does not change anything in booting or
> in any code related to AMU.
> 

Right, but it should still be worth having - at least it shows up in
dmesg, and when someone reports something fishy we get a hint that we can
blame the hardware.

>>
>> On its own, it is perfectly sensible and could be merged as part of this
>> series with my
>>
>> Acked-by: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
>>
>>          M.
> 
> Regards,
> Lukasz

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>
To: Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Cc: mark.rutland@arm.com, will@kernel.org, suzuki.poulose@arm.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	rjw@rjwysocki.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mingo@redhat.com, viresh.kumar@linaro.org, sudeep.holla@arm.com,
	Ionela Voinescu <ionela.voinescu@arm.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 7/7] clocksource/drivers/arm_arch_timer: validate arch_timer_rate
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2020 11:12:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <eeafe486-e408-b229-24ef-329649a13f70@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <289c6110-b7ea-1d61-d795-551723263803@arm.com>

On 12/02/2020 10:55, Lukasz Luba wrote:
>> Because, as the commit message outlines it, such a frequency is terribly
>> out of spec?
> 
> I don't see in the RM that < 1MHz is terribly out of spec.
> 'Frequency
> Increments at a fixed frequency, typically in the range 1-50MHz.
> Can support one or more alternative operating modes in which it increments by larger amounts at a
> lower frequency, typically for power-saving.'
> 
> There is even an example how to operate at 20kHz and increment by 500.
> 
> I don't know the code if it's supported, thought.
> 

For that one case the value reported by CNTFRQ shouldn't change - it's still
a timer that looks like is operating at 10MHz, but under the hood is doing
bigger increments at lower freq.

As I was trying to get to, this patch isn't validating the actual frequency
the timer operates on, rather that whatever is reported by CNTFRQ is
somewhat sane (which here means [1, 50]MHz, although we just check the
lower bound).

[...]

>> And? It seems to address a potential issue where the time frequency
>> is out of spec, and makes sure we don't end up with additional problems
>> in the AMU code.
> 
> This patch just prints warning, does not change anything in booting or
> in any code related to AMU.
> 

Right, but it should still be worth having - at least it shows up in
dmesg, and when someone reports something fishy we get a hint that we can
blame the hardware.

>>
>> On its own, it is perfectly sensible and could be merged as part of this
>> series with my
>>
>> Acked-by: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
>>
>>          M.
> 
> Regards,
> Lukasz

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-02-12 11:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-11 18:45 [PATCH v3 0/7] arm64: ARMv8.4 Activity Monitors support Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-11 18:45 ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-11 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] arm64: add support for the AMU extension v1 Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-11 18:45   ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-12 11:30   ` Suzuki Kuruppassery Poulose
2020-02-12 11:30     ` Suzuki Kuruppassery Poulose
2020-02-12 14:54     ` Valentin Schneider
2020-02-12 14:54       ` Valentin Schneider
2020-02-12 16:10     ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-12 16:10       ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-12 16:20       ` Suzuki Kuruppassery Poulose
2020-02-12 16:20         ` Suzuki Kuruppassery Poulose
2020-02-12 18:20         ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-12 18:20           ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-12 19:24           ` Suzuki K Poulose
2020-02-12 19:24             ` Suzuki K Poulose
2020-02-12 20:19         ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-12 20:19           ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-12 16:24       ` Vladimir Murzin
2020-02-12 16:24         ` Vladimir Murzin
2020-02-12 18:27         ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-12 18:27           ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-11 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] arm64: trap to EL1 accesses to AMU counters from EL0 Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-11 18:45   ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-12 11:44   ` Suzuki Kuruppassery Poulose
2020-02-12 11:44     ` Suzuki Kuruppassery Poulose
2020-02-12 15:36   ` Valentin Schneider
2020-02-12 15:36     ` Valentin Schneider
2020-02-11 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] arm64/kvm: disable access to AMU registers from kvm guests Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-11 18:45   ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-12 15:36   ` Valentin Schneider
2020-02-12 15:36     ` Valentin Schneider
2020-02-12 16:33   ` Suzuki Kuruppassery Poulose
2020-02-12 16:33     ` Suzuki Kuruppassery Poulose
2020-02-11 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] Documentation: arm64: document support for the AMU extension Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-11 18:45   ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-12 15:36   ` Valentin Schneider
2020-02-12 15:36     ` Valentin Schneider
2020-02-11 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] cpufreq: add function to get the hardware max frequency Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-11 18:45   ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-12  4:14   ` Viresh Kumar
2020-02-12  4:14     ` Viresh Kumar
2020-02-13 11:59   ` Valentin Schneider
2020-02-13 11:59     ` Valentin Schneider
2020-02-13 12:59     ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-13 12:59       ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-13 15:22       ` Valentin Schneider
2020-02-13 15:22         ` Valentin Schneider
2020-02-11 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] arm64: use activity monitors for frequency invariance Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-11 18:45   ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-12 18:59   ` Lukasz Luba
2020-02-12 18:59     ` Lukasz Luba
2020-02-13  9:47     ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-13  9:47       ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-17 16:59   ` Valentin Schneider
2020-02-17 16:59     ` Valentin Schneider
2020-02-23 18:49     ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-23 18:49       ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-11 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] clocksource/drivers/arm_arch_timer: validate arch_timer_rate Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-11 18:45   ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-12  9:30   ` Valentin Schneider
2020-02-12  9:30     ` Valentin Schneider
2020-02-12 10:32     ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-12 10:32       ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-12 10:01   ` Lukasz Luba
2020-02-12 10:01     ` Lukasz Luba
2020-02-12 10:12     ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-12 10:12       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-12 10:54       ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-12 10:54         ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-12 10:55       ` Lukasz Luba
2020-02-12 10:55         ` Lukasz Luba
2020-02-12 11:10         ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-12 11:10           ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-12 11:43           ` Lukasz Luba
2020-02-12 11:43             ` Lukasz Luba
2020-02-12 11:12         ` Valentin Schneider [this message]
2020-02-12 11:12           ` Valentin Schneider
2020-02-14  0:35   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-02-14  0:35     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-02-14 15:45     ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-14 15:45       ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-14 15:57       ` Ionela Voinescu
2020-02-14 15:57         ` Ionela Voinescu

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