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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Neil Booth <neil@daikokuya.co.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@freedesktop.org>,
	linux-sparse@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 16/16] fix handling of integer constant expressions
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:08:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f5dda736b43865bb40583992bafe7a6b@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.98.0706270910000.8675@woody.linux-foundation.org>

>> Here are three independently invalid non-ICEs that sparse doesn't
>> diagnose.
>>
>> extern int f(void);
>> enum { cast_to_ptr = (int) (void *) 0 };
>> enum { cast_to_float = (int) (double) 1 };
>
> Those two *really* shouldn't fail. I don't care if the C standard says 
> so,
> that is *fine*.

GCC doesn't guarantee you this, either.

> In particular, "offsetof()" should be portably able to basically be the
> standard #define, which involves an integer cast from a constant 
> pointer.
> That had *better* be a valid constant integer expression, because it's
> very useful.

Yes it's useful.  That's why GCC gives you __builtin_offsetof()
for this purpose.

> And I think standards can go screw themselves, and you can make it an
> error with some "--standard-pedantic" switch or similar.
>
> Standards are just random pieces of paper, for crying out loud! They 
> have
> zero relevance in the end.

Sure, as long as you don't care about compatibility across
compilers, what matters is what the compilers you _do_ use
actually implement.  And note that GCC doesn't guarantee
you much over what the C standard does.  Almost everything
it allows extra is just an implementation side effect.


Segher

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-06-28  9:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-24  8:05 [PATCH 16/16] fix handling of integer constant expressions Al Viro
2007-06-24 17:47 ` Al Viro
2007-06-24 18:04   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-24 18:35     ` Al Viro
2007-06-24 19:04       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-24 19:40         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-24 20:38           ` Al Viro
2007-06-24 21:42             ` Neil Booth
2007-06-24 23:07               ` Al Viro
2007-06-25  6:16               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-25  5:31             ` Josh Triplett
2007-06-25 19:55               ` Al Viro
2007-06-26  3:12                 ` Josh Triplett
2007-06-26 22:10               ` Al Viro
2007-06-26 22:10                 ` Al Viro
2007-06-26 22:11                 ` Al Viro
2007-06-26 22:11                   ` Al Viro
2007-06-26 23:32                   ` Neil Booth
2007-06-27  0:18                     ` Al Viro
2007-06-27  0:25                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-27  0:37                         ` Al Viro
2007-06-27  0:29                       ` Derek M Jones
2007-06-27  0:41                         ` Al Viro
2007-06-27 11:52                       ` Neil Booth
2007-06-27 12:19                         ` Al Viro
2007-06-27 12:26                           ` Neil Booth
2007-06-27 12:37                             ` Al Viro
2007-06-27 12:10                   ` Neil Booth
2007-06-27 12:30                     ` Al Viro
2007-06-27 12:59                       ` Neil Booth
2007-06-27 13:18                         ` Al Viro
2007-06-27 13:35                           ` Neil Booth
2007-06-27 14:06                             ` Al Viro
2007-06-27 15:54                               ` Al Viro
2007-06-27 14:50                           ` Josh Triplett
2007-06-27 14:59                             ` Al Viro
2007-06-27 16:19                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-27 16:34                       ` Josh Triplett
2007-06-27 17:25                         ` Al Viro
2007-06-27 17:29                       ` Al Viro
2007-06-27 17:45                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-27 18:04                           ` Al Viro
2007-06-27 22:50                       ` Neil Booth
2007-06-28  9:08                       ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2007-06-26 22:49                 ` Josh Triplett
2007-06-25  6:13             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-24 19:59         ` Al Viro
2007-06-24 18:07   ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-24 19:10     ` Al Viro
2007-06-24 18:18   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-24 18:44     ` Al Viro
2007-06-24 19:09       ` Segher Boessenkool

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