* Bugreport - rtw89: RTL8852AE dead-link stall | linux-zen 7.1.3
@ 2026-07-16 14:34 Pochimilco
2026-07-17 0:23 ` Ping-Ke Shih
0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Pochimilco @ 2026-07-16 14:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-wireless
Bugreport (information collected with the help of AI - i'm not an
expert but a more less experienced linux user ;) )
I hope it helps... thanks, Pochimilco
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Title: rtw89: RTL8852AE dead-link stall ("connected but no traffic")
under linux-zen 7.1.3, absent under linux-lts 6.18
Product: Networking
Component: Wireless
Kernel: 7.1.3-zen1-3-zen (Arch/Garuda)
Driver: rtw89 (in-kernel), module rtw89_8852ae
Hardware: ThinkPad L13 Gen 2a (21AB000PCK), Realtek RTL8852AE
Severity: high (intermittent connectivity loss, ~2-10 min, self-recovering)
Summary:
With the Zen kernel the RTL8852AE enters a "dead link" state: iw link
shows the device stays associated (Connected, signal ~-49 dBm, RX bytes
keep increasing), but all traffic to the gateway stops. ping to the
gateway fails for 2–10 minutes, then recovers on its own. Switching to
the LTS kernel (6.18.38-3-lts) with identical firmware and same AP
eliminates the issue completely (0 stalls over multiple hours).
Environment:
• Kernel affected: 7.1.3-zen1-3-zen
• Kernel unaffected: 6.18.38-3-lts
• Firmware: linux-firmware-realtek 20260622-1 (identical in both →
not a firmware regression)
• Driver: in-kernel rtw89 (modules: rtw89_8852ae, rtw89_8852a,
rtw89_pci, rtw89_core)
• Distro: Garuda Linux (Arch-based), NetworkManager + wpa_supplicant
• AP: Bushaldestellenzombieparadies, BSSID 50:e6:36:b6:69:a4, 5
GHz, channel 52 (5260 MHz, 80 MHz, DFS), SAE/FT-SAE, 802.11w=2
Reproduction:
1. Boot linux-zen 7.1.3.
2. Connect to 5 GHz DFS channel 52.
3. Under normal traffic the gateway ping dies after a few minutes;
device stays associated.
4. Recovers after 2–10 min without user action.
5. Boot linux-lts 6.18.38 instead → no stalls over several hours of the
same workload.
Mitigation attempts that did NOT help:
All four rtw89 module params set via /etc/modprobe.d/rtw89.conf and
verified Y in /sys/module/.../parameters/:
options rtw89_core disable_ps_mode=y
options rtw89_pci disable_aspm_l1=y
options rtw89_pci disable_aspm_l1ss=y
options rtw89_pci disable_clkreq=y
Stalls persisted with all four active. Firmware downgrade (to
20260519-1) also did not help.
Evidence (monitor log excerpt, Zen kernel):
2026-07-16 12:41:34 | channel 52 (5260 MHz), width: 80 MHz, center1:
5290 MHz | gw-ping: OK
2026-07-16 12:41:49 | >>> STALL: Connected to 50:e6:36:b6:69:a4 (on wlp6s0)
SSID: Bushaldestellenzombieparadies freq: 5260.0 signal: -49 dBm
rx bitrate: 6.0 MBit/s tx bitrate: 1200.9 MBit/s 80MHz HE-MCS 11 ...
... (RX bytes climb 13.4M -> 14.0M across the stall) ...
2026-07-16 12:44:18 | >>> STALL: ... signal: -49 dBm ... gw-ping: FAIL
2026-07-16 12:46:36 | channel 52 (5260 MHz), width: 80 MHz, center1:
5290 MHz | gw-ping: OK
Key observations during stall:
• iw link always reports Connected, no deauth, beacon interval
stable (100 TU).
• RX byte counter keeps increasing → chip still receives, but TX to
gateway is blocked.
• Signal strong (-48 to -50 dBm), so not an RF/coverage issue.
• Channel never changes (stays 52/5260 MHz) → not a DFS channel switch.
LTS comparison:
After rebooting into linux-lts 6.18.38-3-lts at 12:46, the same monitor
reported gw-ping: OK continuously with zero >>> STALL entries for the
rest of the session.
Expected: Stable connectivity on Zen kernel as on LTS.
Actual: Intermittent dead-link stalls requiring no action but causing
2–10 min outages.
Additional info requested by maintainers (please attach):
• dmesg from a Zen boot showing the stall window
• sudo ethtool -i wlp6s0 (or iw dev wlp6s0 info)
• cat /sys/kernel/debug/ieee80211/phy0/rtw89/... if available
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* RE: Bugreport - rtw89: RTL8852AE dead-link stall | linux-zen 7.1.3
2026-07-16 14:34 Bugreport - rtw89: RTL8852AE dead-link stall | linux-zen 7.1.3 Pochimilco
@ 2026-07-17 0:23 ` Ping-Ke Shih
0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Ping-Ke Shih @ 2026-07-17 0:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pochimilco, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Pochimilco <pochimilco@ik.me> wrote:
> Bugreport (information collected with the help of AI - i'm not an
> expert but a more less experienced linux user ;) )
>
> I hope it helps... thanks, Pochimilco
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Title: rtw89: RTL8852AE dead-link stall ("connected but no traffic")
> under linux-zen 7.1.3, absent under linux-lts 6.18
> Product: Networking
> Component: Wireless
> Kernel: 7.1.3-zen1-3-zen (Arch/Garuda)
> Driver: rtw89 (in-kernel), module rtw89_8852ae
> Hardware: ThinkPad L13 Gen 2a (21AB000PCK), Realtek RTL8852AE
> Severity: high (intermittent connectivity loss, ~2-10 min, self-recovering)
A patch [1] is going to be merged into 7.1.4 (I suppose). I think you can
try it again next week.
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/stable/20260716133048.437330106@linuxfoundation.org/
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