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From: Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@gmail.com>
To: Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>,
	Gurchetan Singh <gurchetansingh@chromium.org>,
	Mark Cave-Ayland <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Xenia Ragiadakou" <xenia.ragiadakou@amd.com>,
	marcandre.lureau@redhat.com, ray.huang@amd.com,
	alex.bennee@linaro.org, shentey@gmail.com, ernunes@redhat.com,
	manos.pitsidianakis@linaro.org, philmd@linaro.org,
	"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	"Anthony PERARD" <anthony.perard@citrix.com>,
	"Antonio Caggiano" <quic_acaggian@quicinc.com>,
	"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"Robert Beckett" <bob.beckett@collabora.com>,
	"Dmitry Osipenko" <dmitry.osipenko@collabora.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	"Albert Esteve" <aesteve@redhat.com>,
	"Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>,
	"Alex Deucher" <alexander.deucher@amd.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Pierre-Eric Pelloux-Prayer" <pierre-eric.pelloux-prayer@amd.com>,
	"Honglei Huang" <honglei1.huang@amd.com>,
	"Julia Zhang" <julia.zhang@amd.com>,
	"Chen Jiqian" <Jiqian.Chen@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 6/9] gfxstream + rutabaga: add initial support for gfxstream
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2023 16:54:51 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <faae6c7b-2b2b-44e5-99b8-261f17f28645@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lecyejry.fsf@alyssa.is>

On 2023/09/22 16:42, Alyssa Ross wrote:
> Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> Practically there is very low chance to hit the bug. I think only
>> fuzzers and malicious actors will trigger it, and probably no one will
>> dare using virtio-gpu-rutabaga or virtio-gpu-gl in a security-sensitive
>> context.
> 
> Well, this is exactly what Chrome OS does, albiet with crosvm rather
> than QEMU, right?

I think so, but QEMU's virtio-gpu-rutabaga and virtio-gpu-gl should be 
very different from crosvm in terms that it does not isolate the 
graphics stack into a separate process while I believe crosvm does so. 
Having the entire graphics stack in a VMM is a security nightmare; it 
means giving a complex shader compiler the highest privilege. We need to 
use vhost-user-gpu instead for process isolation.

Since we already have such a serious security hazard, I don't think we 
have to care much about security. But security approximately equals to 
reliability, which matters for virtio-gpu-rutabaga and virtio-gpu-gl 
too, so it's still nice to get the bug fixed.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-22  7:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-29  0:36 [PATCH v13 0/9] rutabaga_gfx + gfxstream Gurchetan Singh
2023-08-29  0:36 ` [PATCH v13 1/9] virtio: Add shared memory capability Gurchetan Singh
2023-08-29  0:36 ` [PATCH v13 2/9] virtio-gpu: CONTEXT_INIT feature Gurchetan Singh
2023-08-29  0:36 ` [PATCH v13 3/9] virtio-gpu: hostmem Gurchetan Singh
2023-08-29  0:36 ` [PATCH v13 4/9] virtio-gpu: blob prep Gurchetan Singh
2023-08-29  0:36 ` [PATCH v13 5/9] gfxstream + rutabaga prep: added need defintions, fields, and options Gurchetan Singh
2023-08-29  0:36 ` [PATCH v13 6/9] gfxstream + rutabaga: add initial support for gfxstream Gurchetan Singh
2023-09-20 11:42   ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-09-20 12:04     ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2023-09-22  0:03       ` Gurchetan Singh
2023-09-22  2:53         ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-09-22  7:42           ` Alyssa Ross
2023-09-22  7:54             ` Akihiko Odaki [this message]
2023-09-27 11:45   ` Thomas Huth
2023-09-27 12:24     ` Markus Armbruster
2023-09-27 12:26     ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2023-08-29  0:36 ` [PATCH v13 7/9] gfxstream + rutabaga: meson support Gurchetan Singh
2023-08-29  0:36 ` [PATCH v13 8/9] gfxstream + rutabaga: enable rutabaga Gurchetan Singh
2023-08-29  0:36 ` [PATCH v13 9/9] docs/system: add basic virtio-gpu documentation Gurchetan Singh
2023-08-31  2:25 ` [PATCH v13 0/9] rutabaga_gfx + gfxstream Huang Rui
2023-09-06  1:20   ` Gurchetan Singh
2023-09-06  6:25     ` Marc-André Lureau
2023-09-13 21:03       ` Bernhard Beschow
2023-09-12 13:59     ` Marc-André Lureau
2023-09-13  1:08       ` Gurchetan Singh
2023-09-13 13:49         ` Marc-André Lureau
2023-09-14  4:10           ` Gurchetan Singh

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