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* Hardware Appliance
@ 2007-09-06 11:13 Haydn Solomon
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From: Haydn Solomon @ 2007-09-06 11:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: kvm-devel


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I've been seeing a lot of news about embedded virtualization in servers
backed by companies like Dell, HP etc.  I still think KVM is the right
approach to virtualization however what does this mean for KVM as far as
being a competitor in the hypervisor market? How difficult would it be for
KVM to do something similar? Just wanted to get some thoughts on this.

Haydn

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* Re: Hardware Appliance
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@ 2007-09-06 12:01   ` Gildas
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  2007-09-06 20:59   ` Wes Felter
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From: Gildas @ 2007-09-06 12:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Haydn Solomon; +Cc: kvm-devel

2007/9/6, Haydn Solomon <haydn.solomon-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>:
> I've been seeing a lot of news about embedded virtualization in servers
> backed by companies like Dell, HP etc.  I still think KVM is the right
> approach to virtualization however what does this mean for KVM as far as
> being a competitor in the hypervisor market? How difficult would it be for
> KVM to do something similar? Just wanted to get some thoughts on this.
>
> Haydn

Well, from what I get the so-called "virtualisation appliances" are
just servers with more memory slots and booting one of the existing
virtualisation from some flash ram. The real plus sides of those
solutions is the support offered by the hardware companies as they
will qualify those systems specifically with the virtualisation
solution.

But you can easily design a small memory footprint linux system with
KVM that will boot from compact flash...

Just my 2 pennies though
Gildas

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* Re: Hardware Appliance
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@ 2007-09-06 12:05       ` Haydn Solomon
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From: Haydn Solomon @ 2007-09-06 12:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gildas; +Cc: kvm-devel


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Yeah.. I was thinking along similar lines. I don't think it should be
difficult to customize a scaled down linux with kvm. I'd like to see kvm
compete along these lines too.

On 9/6/07, Gildas <gildas.ml-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> 2007/9/6, Haydn Solomon <haydn.solomon-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>:
> > I've been seeing a lot of news about embedded virtualization in servers
> > backed by companies like Dell, HP etc.  I still think KVM is the right
> > approach to virtualization however what does this mean for KVM as far as
> > being a competitor in the hypervisor market? How difficult would it be
> for
> > KVM to do something similar? Just wanted to get some thoughts on this.
> >
> > Haydn
>
> Well, from what I get the so-called "virtualisation appliances" are
> just servers with more memory slots and booting one of the existing
> virtualisation from some flash ram. The real plus sides of those
> solutions is the support offered by the hardware companies as they
> will qualify those systems specifically with the virtualisation
> solution.
>
> But you can easily design a small memory footprint linux system with
> KVM that will boot from compact flash...
>
> Just my 2 pennies though
> Gildas
>

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* Re: Hardware Appliance
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  2007-09-06 12:01   ` Gildas
@ 2007-09-06 20:59   ` Wes Felter
  2007-09-06 21:37     ` Haydn Solomon
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From: Wes Felter @ 2007-09-06 20:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f

Haydn Solomon wrote:
> I've been seeing a lot of news about embedded virtualization in servers 
> backed by companies like Dell, HP etc.  I still think KVM is the right 
> approach to virtualization however what does this mean for KVM as far as 
> being a competitor in the hypervisor market? How difficult would it be 
> for KVM to do something similar? Just wanted to get some thoughts on this.

IBM, HP, Dell, etc. make marketing deals with companies, not open-source 
communities. So there needs to be a KVM company that can afford to send 
people to IBM, HP, Dell, etc. to sell the idea. And of course that 
company needs to have a product to sell, not a technology.

Wes Felter - wesley-M0S742VLUOwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org


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* Re: Hardware Appliance
  2007-09-06 20:59   ` Wes Felter
@ 2007-09-06 21:37     ` Haydn Solomon
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From: Haydn Solomon @ 2007-09-06 21:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Wes Felter; +Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f


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This is true Wes. The beauty of open source is that proprietary  as well as
open source products can be built around an open source project especially
one such as kvm, and marketed.  The nature of open source caters to this.
The trend in the market for hypervisor appliances is probably going to be
the standard and I would like to believe that companies are already
considering linux/kvm appliances.

On 9/6/07, Wes Felter <wesley-M0S742VLUOwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> Haydn Solomon wrote:
> > I've been seeing a lot of news about embedded virtualization in servers
> > backed by companies like Dell, HP etc.  I still think KVM is the right
> > approach to virtualization however what does this mean for KVM as far as
> > being a competitor in the hypervisor market? How difficult would it be
> > for KVM to do something similar? Just wanted to get some thoughts on
> this.
>
> IBM, HP, Dell, etc. make marketing deals with companies, not open-source
> communities. So there needs to be a KVM company that can afford to send
> people to IBM, HP, Dell, etc. to sell the idea. And of course that
> company needs to have a product to sell, not a technology.
>
> Wes Felter - wesley-M0S742VLUOwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org
>
>
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2007-09-06 11:13 Hardware Appliance Haydn Solomon
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2007-09-06 12:01   ` Gildas
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