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From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
To: "Jürgen Groß" <jgross@suse.com>
Cc: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>,
	Julien Grall <julien@xen.org>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>, Wei Liu <wl@xen.org>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 12/12] xen/spinlock: support higher number of cpus
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 2024 18:07:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fc2dea79-c1de-44c4-97e2-f41610759ccc@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <84f700a6-1a98-41a9-bb29-4da2c2f802b0@suse.com>

On 29.02.2024 18:04, Jürgen Groß wrote:
> On 29.02.24 17:54, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> On 29.02.2024 17:45, Juergen Gross wrote:
>>> On 29.02.24 17:31, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 29.02.2024 17:29, Jürgen Groß wrote:
>>>>> On 29.02.24 16:46, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>> On 12.12.2023 10:47, Juergen Gross wrote:
>>>>>>> Allow 16 bits per cpu number, which is the limit imposed by
>>>>>>> spinlock_tickets_t.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This will allow up to 65535 cpus, while increasing only the size of
>>>>>>> recursive spinlocks in debug builds from 8 to 12 bytes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we want to be more conservative here, for the case of there
>>>>>> being bugs: The CPU holding a lock may wrongly try to acquire it a
>>>>>> 2nd time. That's the 65536th ticket then, wrapping the value.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this really a problem? There will be no other cpu left seeing the lock
>>>>> as "free" in this case, as all others will be waiting for the head to reach
>>>>> their private tail value.
>>>>
>>>> But isn't said CPU then going to make progress, rather than indefinitely
>>>> spinning on the lock?
>>>
>>> No, I don't think so.
>>
>> Hmm. If CPU0 takes a pristine lock, it'll get ticket 0x0000. All other
>> CPUs will get tickets 0x0001 ... 0xffff. Then CPU0 trying to take the lock
> 
> No, they'll get 0x0001 ... 0xfffe (only 65535 cpus are supported).
> 
>> again will get ticket 0x0000 again, which equals what .head still has (no
> 
> And the first cpu will get 0xffff when trying to get the lock again.

Oh, right. Still a little too close to the boundary for my taste ...

Jan


      reply	other threads:[~2024-02-29 17:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-12  9:47 [PATCH v4 00/12] xen/spinlock: make recursive spinlocks a dedicated type Juergen Gross
2023-12-12  9:47 ` [PATCH v4 01/12] xen/spinlock: reduce lock profile ifdefs Juergen Gross
2023-12-12 12:44   ` Julien Grall
2023-12-12  9:47 ` [PATCH v4 02/12] xen/spinlock: make spinlock initializers more readable Juergen Gross
2023-12-12  9:47 ` [PATCH v4 03/12] xen/spinlock: introduce new type for recursive spinlocks Juergen Gross
2023-12-12 12:57   ` Julien Grall
2023-12-12 13:04     ` Juergen Gross
2023-12-12 13:07       ` Julien Grall
2023-12-21 10:34     ` Jan Beulich
2023-12-21 11:06       ` Juergen Gross
2023-12-21 11:07         ` Jan Beulich
2023-12-12  9:47 ` [PATCH v4 04/12] xen/spinlock: rename recursive lock functions Juergen Gross
2023-12-12 12:59   ` Julien Grall
2024-02-28 14:59   ` Jan Beulich
2023-12-12  9:47 ` [PATCH v4 05/12] xen/spinlock: add rspin_[un]lock_irq[save|restore]() Juergen Gross
2023-12-12 13:03   ` Julien Grall
2023-12-12 14:16     ` Juergen Gross
2024-02-28 15:09   ` Jan Beulich
2024-02-28 15:21     ` Jürgen Groß
2023-12-12  9:47 ` [PATCH v4 06/12] xen/spinlock: make struct lock_profile rspinlock_t aware Juergen Gross
2023-12-12 18:42   ` Julien Grall
2023-12-13  6:05     ` Juergen Gross
2023-12-13  8:32       ` Julien Grall
2023-12-13  8:36       ` Jan Beulich
2023-12-13  9:07         ` Juergen Gross
2024-02-28 15:19   ` Jan Beulich
2024-02-28 15:43     ` Jürgen Groß
2024-02-28 16:02       ` Jan Beulich
2024-02-28 16:22         ` Jürgen Groß
2023-12-12  9:47 ` [PATCH v4 07/12] xen/spinlock: add explicit non-recursive locking functions Juergen Gross
2023-12-12 18:49   ` Julien Grall
2023-12-13  6:17     ` Juergen Gross
2023-12-13  8:36       ` Julien Grall
2023-12-13  9:11         ` Juergen Gross
2024-02-29 13:49   ` Jan Beulich
2024-02-29 13:56     ` Juergen Gross
2023-12-12  9:47 ` [PATCH v4 08/12] xen/spinlock: add another function level Juergen Gross
2023-12-12 19:10   ` Julien Grall
2023-12-13  6:23     ` Juergen Gross
2023-12-13  8:43       ` Julien Grall
2023-12-13  9:17         ` Juergen Gross
2023-12-13  9:48           ` Julien Grall
2023-12-13  9:55             ` Juergen Gross
2023-12-13 10:06               ` Jan Beulich
2023-12-13 10:04             ` Jan Beulich
2024-02-29 13:59   ` Jan Beulich
2023-12-12  9:47 ` [PATCH v4 09/12] xen/spinlock: add missing rspin_is_locked() and rspin_barrier() Juergen Gross
2024-02-29 14:14   ` Jan Beulich
2024-02-29 14:18     ` Jürgen Groß
2023-12-12  9:47 ` [PATCH v4 10/12] xen/spinlock: split recursive spinlocks from normal ones Juergen Gross
2024-02-29 15:32   ` Jan Beulich
2024-02-29 15:45     ` Jürgen Groß
2024-03-01 14:37     ` Juergen Gross
2024-03-04  7:25       ` Jan Beulich
2024-03-04  7:43         ` Jürgen Groß
2023-12-12  9:47 ` [PATCH v4 11/12] xen/spinlock: remove indirection through macros for spin_*() functions Juergen Gross
2024-02-29 15:35   ` Jan Beulich
2023-12-12  9:47 ` [PATCH v4 12/12] xen/spinlock: support higher number of cpus Juergen Gross
2023-12-12 10:10   ` Julien Grall
2023-12-12 11:09     ` Juergen Gross
2023-12-12 11:40       ` Julien Grall
2023-12-12 12:11         ` Juergen Gross
2023-12-12 12:22           ` Julien Grall
2023-12-12 12:39   ` Julien Grall
2023-12-12 13:08     ` Juergen Gross
2023-12-12 14:04       ` Julien Grall
2024-02-29 15:46   ` Jan Beulich
2024-02-29 16:29     ` Jürgen Groß
2024-02-29 16:31       ` Jan Beulich
2024-02-29 16:45         ` Juergen Gross
2024-02-29 16:54           ` Jan Beulich
2024-02-29 17:04             ` Jürgen Groß
2024-02-29 17:07               ` Jan Beulich [this message]

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