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From: Dragan Simic <dsimic@manjaro.org>
To: Quentin Schulz <quentin.schulz@cherry.de>
Cc: Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>,
	linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	Quentin Schulz <quentin.schulz@theobroma-systems.com>,
	Klaus Goger <klaus.goger@theobroma-systems.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 06/14] arm64: dts: rockchip: Remove #cooling-cells from fan on Theobroma boards
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:49:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ff20557655d689571590d5b908b705c1@manjaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4f8a87da-76b1-4fa6-8755-5dbf10bfd74e@cherry.de>

Hello Quentin,

On 2024-10-14 17:39, Quentin Schulz wrote:
> On 10/9/24 9:16 AM, Dragan Simic wrote:
>> On 2024-10-08 22:39, Heiko Stuebner wrote:
>>> All Theobroma boards use a ti,amc6821 as fan controller.
>>> It normally runs in an automatically controlled way and while it may 
>>> be
>>> possible to use it as part of a dt-based thermal management, this is
>>> not yet specified in the binding, nor implemented in any kernel.
>>> 
>>> Newer boards already don't contain that #cooling-cells property, but
>>> older ones do. So remove them for now, they can be re-added if 
>>> thermal
>>> integration gets implemented in the future.
>>> 
>>> Fixes: c484cf93f61b ("arm64: dts: rockchip: add PX30-µQ7 (Ringneck)
>>> SoM with Haikou baseboard")
>>> Fixes: d99a02bcfa81 ("arm64: dts: rockchip: add RK3368-uQ7 (Lion) 
>>> SoM")
>>> Fixes: 2c66fc34e945 ("arm64: dts: rockchip: add RK3399-Q7 (Puma) 
>>> SoM")
>>> Cc: Quentin Schulz <quentin.schulz@theobroma-systems.com>
>>> Cc: Klaus Goger <klaus.goger@theobroma-systems.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>
>>> Reviewed-by: Quentin Schulz <quentin.schulz@cherry.de>
>> 
>> Looking good to me, thanks for the patch.  In addition to the amc6821
>> driver currently not supporting full integration into the thermal
>> framework, the "fan" DT node also isn't referenced in any cooling map,
>> so having it define the "cooling-cells" property is of no use.
>> 
>> By the way, it would be nice to see the amc6821 driver supporting fan
>> speed regulation, and test it to check who does a better job when it
>> comes to cooling and fan speed regulation, the thermal framework or
>> the chip's built-in logic. :)
> 
> Wasn't this feature added this summer by Guenter?
> 
> c.f. 
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/drivers/hwmon/amc6821.c?id=becbd16ed2f8f427239ffda66b5d894008bc56af
> 
> Mode 4 is
> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.11.3/source/drivers/hwmon/amc6821.c#L367
> ([FDRC1:FDRC0] = [01] -> Software-RPM Control Mode (Fan Speed
> Regulator) according to the datasheet).

Ah, SENSOR_DEVICE_ATTR_RW(fan1_target, fan, IDX_FAN1_TARGET)...
How did I miss that?  Hmm...  Maybe I was looking at some older
local branch, which happened not to include that commit.

Anywyay, good to know, thanks.

> In any case, we cannot compare those for our products as we do not
> have a genuine AMC6821 but a handmade simulation of the IP we run in
> an MCU.

I seem to remember your MCU that performs a few tasks, back from
some related discussions.  I wonder what was the reason to implement
it in software, instead of using actual fan controller chip?

> But that'd be an interesting data point indeed :)

I'm glad that you agree. :)

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From: Dragan Simic <dsimic@manjaro.org>
To: Quentin Schulz <quentin.schulz@cherry.de>
Cc: Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>,
	linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	Quentin Schulz <quentin.schulz@theobroma-systems.com>,
	Klaus Goger <klaus.goger@theobroma-systems.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 06/14] arm64: dts: rockchip: Remove #cooling-cells from fan on Theobroma boards
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:49:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ff20557655d689571590d5b908b705c1@manjaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4f8a87da-76b1-4fa6-8755-5dbf10bfd74e@cherry.de>

Hello Quentin,

On 2024-10-14 17:39, Quentin Schulz wrote:
> On 10/9/24 9:16 AM, Dragan Simic wrote:
>> On 2024-10-08 22:39, Heiko Stuebner wrote:
>>> All Theobroma boards use a ti,amc6821 as fan controller.
>>> It normally runs in an automatically controlled way and while it may 
>>> be
>>> possible to use it as part of a dt-based thermal management, this is
>>> not yet specified in the binding, nor implemented in any kernel.
>>> 
>>> Newer boards already don't contain that #cooling-cells property, but
>>> older ones do. So remove them for now, they can be re-added if 
>>> thermal
>>> integration gets implemented in the future.
>>> 
>>> Fixes: c484cf93f61b ("arm64: dts: rockchip: add PX30-µQ7 (Ringneck)
>>> SoM with Haikou baseboard")
>>> Fixes: d99a02bcfa81 ("arm64: dts: rockchip: add RK3368-uQ7 (Lion) 
>>> SoM")
>>> Fixes: 2c66fc34e945 ("arm64: dts: rockchip: add RK3399-Q7 (Puma) 
>>> SoM")
>>> Cc: Quentin Schulz <quentin.schulz@theobroma-systems.com>
>>> Cc: Klaus Goger <klaus.goger@theobroma-systems.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>
>>> Reviewed-by: Quentin Schulz <quentin.schulz@cherry.de>
>> 
>> Looking good to me, thanks for the patch.  In addition to the amc6821
>> driver currently not supporting full integration into the thermal
>> framework, the "fan" DT node also isn't referenced in any cooling map,
>> so having it define the "cooling-cells" property is of no use.
>> 
>> By the way, it would be nice to see the amc6821 driver supporting fan
>> speed regulation, and test it to check who does a better job when it
>> comes to cooling and fan speed regulation, the thermal framework or
>> the chip's built-in logic. :)
> 
> Wasn't this feature added this summer by Guenter?
> 
> c.f. 
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/drivers/hwmon/amc6821.c?id=becbd16ed2f8f427239ffda66b5d894008bc56af
> 
> Mode 4 is
> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.11.3/source/drivers/hwmon/amc6821.c#L367
> ([FDRC1:FDRC0] = [01] -> Software-RPM Control Mode (Fan Speed
> Regulator) according to the datasheet).

Ah, SENSOR_DEVICE_ATTR_RW(fan1_target, fan, IDX_FAN1_TARGET)...
How did I miss that?  Hmm...  Maybe I was looking at some older
local branch, which happened not to include that commit.

Anywyay, good to know, thanks.

> In any case, we cannot compare those for our products as we do not
> have a genuine AMC6821 but a handmade simulation of the IP we run in
> an MCU.

I seem to remember your MCU that performs a few tasks, back from
some related discussions.  I wonder what was the reason to implement
it in software, instead of using actual fan controller chip?

> But that'd be an interesting data point indeed :)

I'm glad that you agree. :)


  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-14 15:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-08 20:39 [PATCH v2 00/14] Fixing some dtbscheck warnings Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-08 20:39 ` Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-08 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] arm64: dts: rockchip: fix i2c2 pinctrl-names property on anbernic-rg353p/v Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-08 20:39   ` Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-08 21:02   ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-08 21:02     ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-08 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] arm64: dts: rockchip: Drop regulator-init-microvolt from two boards Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-08 20:39   ` Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-08 21:07   ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-08 21:07     ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-08 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] arm64: dts: rockchip: Fix bluetooth properties on rk3566 box demo Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-08 20:39   ` Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-08 21:13   ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-08 21:13     ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-08 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] arm64: dts: rockchip: Fix bluetooth properties on Rock960 boards Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-08 20:39   ` Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-08 21:15   ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-08 21:15     ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-08 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] arm64: dts: rockchip: Remove undocumented supports-emmc property Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-08 20:39   ` Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-08 21:17   ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-08 21:17     ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-08 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] arm64: dts: rockchip: Remove #cooling-cells from fan on Theobroma boards Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-08 20:39   ` Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-09  7:16   ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-09  7:16     ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-14 15:39     ` Quentin Schulz
2024-10-14 15:39       ` Quentin Schulz
2024-10-14 15:49       ` Dragan Simic [this message]
2024-10-14 15:49         ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-14 16:29         ` Quentin Schulz
2024-10-14 16:29           ` Quentin Schulz
2024-10-14 17:21           ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-14 17:21             ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-08 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] arm64: dts: rockchip: Fix LED triggers on rk3308-roc-cc Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-08 20:39   ` Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-09  7:19   ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-09  7:19     ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-08 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] arm64: dts: rockchip: remove num-slots property from rk3328-nanopi-r2s-plus Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-08 20:39   ` Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-09  7:21   ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-09  7:21     ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-08 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] arm64: dts: rockchip: Remove 'enable-active-low' from two boards Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-08 20:39   ` Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-09  5:09   ` Michael Riesch
2024-10-09  5:09     ` Michael Riesch
2024-10-09  7:26   ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-09  7:26     ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-08 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] arm64: dts: rockchip: remove orphaned pinctrl-names from pinephone pro Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-08 20:39   ` Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-08 23:13   ` Ondřej Jirman
2024-10-08 23:13     ` Ondřej Jirman
2024-10-08 23:31   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2024-10-08 23:31     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2024-10-09  7:30   ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-09  7:30     ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-08 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] ARM: dts: rockchip: fix rk3036 acodec node Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-08 20:39   ` Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-09  7:33   ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-09  7:33     ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-08 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] ARM: dts: rockchip: drop grf reference from rk3036 hdmi Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-08 20:39   ` Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-09  7:37   ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-09  7:37     ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-08 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] ARM: dts: rockchip: Fix the spi controller on rk3036 Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-08 20:39   ` Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-09  7:42   ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-09  7:42     ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-08 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] ARM: dts: rockchip: Fix the realtek audio codec on rk3036-kylin Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-08 20:39   ` Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-09  7:44   ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-09  7:44     ` Dragan Simic
2024-10-10 20:27 ` [PATCH v2 00/14] Fixing some dtbscheck warnings Heiko Stuebner
2024-10-10 20:27   ` Heiko Stuebner

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