From: Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [mm v2 0/3] Support memory cgroup hotplug
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 11:09:26 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fffa4fdc-8bb0-2891-d314-286d4ede305b@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161128211014.GB12143@htj.duckdns.org>
On 29/11/16 08:10, Tejun Heo wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 12:05:12AM +1100, Balbir Singh wrote:
>> On my desktop NODES_SHIFT is 6, many distro kernels have it a 9. I've known
>> of solutions that use fake NUMA for partitioning and need as many nodes as
>> possible.
>
> It was a crude kludge that people used before memcg. If people still
> use it, that's fine but we don't want to optimize / make code
> complicated for it, so let's please put away this part of
> justification.
Are you suggesting those use cases can be ignored now?
>
> It's understandable that some kernels want to have large NODES_SHIFT
> to support wide range of configurations but if that makes wastage too
> high, the simpler solution is updating the users to use the rumtime
> detected possible number / mask instead of the compile time
> NODES_SHIFT. Note that we do exactly the same thing for per-cpu
> things - we configure high max but do all operations on what's
> possible on the system.
>
> NUMA code already has possible detection. Why not simply make memcg
> use those instead of MAX_NUMNODES like how we use nr_cpu_ids instead
> of NR_CPUS?
>
nodes_possible_map is set to node_online_map at the moment for ppc64.
Which becomes a problem when hotplugging a node that was not already
online.
I am not sure what you mean by possible detection. node_possible_map
is set based on CONFIG_NODE_SHIFT and then can be adjusted by the
architecture (if desired). Are you suggesting firmware populate it
in?
Thanks,
Balbir Singh
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [mm v2 0/3] Support memory cgroup hotplug
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 11:09:26 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fffa4fdc-8bb0-2891-d314-286d4ede305b@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161128211014.GB12143@htj.duckdns.org>
On 29/11/16 08:10, Tejun Heo wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 12:05:12AM +1100, Balbir Singh wrote:
>> On my desktop NODES_SHIFT is 6, many distro kernels have it a 9. I've known
>> of solutions that use fake NUMA for partitioning and need as many nodes as
>> possible.
>
> It was a crude kludge that people used before memcg. If people still
> use it, that's fine but we don't want to optimize / make code
> complicated for it, so let's please put away this part of
> justification.
Are you suggesting those use cases can be ignored now?
>
> It's understandable that some kernels want to have large NODES_SHIFT
> to support wide range of configurations but if that makes wastage too
> high, the simpler solution is updating the users to use the rumtime
> detected possible number / mask instead of the compile time
> NODES_SHIFT. Note that we do exactly the same thing for per-cpu
> things - we configure high max but do all operations on what's
> possible on the system.
>
> NUMA code already has possible detection. Why not simply make memcg
> use those instead of MAX_NUMNODES like how we use nr_cpu_ids instead
> of NR_CPUS?
>
nodes_possible_map is set to node_online_map at the moment for ppc64.
Which becomes a problem when hotplugging a node that was not already
online.
I am not sure what you mean by possible detection. node_possible_map
is set based on CONFIG_NODE_SHIFT and then can be adjusted by the
architecture (if desired). Are you suggesting firmware populate it
in?
Thanks,
Balbir Singh
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-11-29 0:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-11-23 4:36 [mm v2 0/3] Support memory cgroup hotplug Balbir Singh
2016-11-23 4:36 ` Balbir Singh
2016-11-23 4:36 ` [mm v2 1/3] mm: Add basic infrastructure for memcg hotplug support Balbir Singh
2016-11-23 4:36 ` Balbir Singh
2016-11-23 4:36 ` [mm v2 2/3] mm: Move operations to hotplug callbacks Balbir Singh
2016-11-23 4:36 ` Balbir Singh
2016-11-23 4:36 ` [mm v2 3/3] powerpc/mm: fix node_possible_map limitations Balbir Singh
2016-11-23 4:36 ` Balbir Singh
2016-11-23 7:25 ` [mm v2 0/3] Support memory cgroup hotplug Michal Hocko
2016-11-23 7:25 ` Michal Hocko
2016-11-23 7:50 ` Balbir Singh
2016-11-23 7:50 ` Balbir Singh
2016-11-23 8:07 ` Michal Hocko
2016-11-23 8:07 ` Michal Hocko
2016-11-23 8:37 ` Balbir Singh
2016-11-23 8:37 ` Balbir Singh
2016-11-23 9:28 ` Michal Hocko
2016-11-23 9:28 ` Michal Hocko
2016-11-23 13:05 ` Balbir Singh
2016-11-23 13:05 ` Balbir Singh
2016-11-23 13:22 ` Michal Hocko
2016-11-23 13:22 ` Michal Hocko
2016-11-28 21:10 ` Tejun Heo
2016-11-28 21:10 ` Tejun Heo
2016-11-29 0:09 ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2016-11-29 0:09 ` Balbir Singh
2016-11-29 0:42 ` Tejun Heo
2016-11-29 0:42 ` Tejun Heo
2016-11-29 4:57 ` Balbir Singh
2016-11-29 4:57 ` Balbir Singh
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