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From: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.kabel.utwente.nl>
To: openembedded-devel@openembedded.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] move to opkg
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 12:02:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fs5dbl$n1g$1@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47E5E7DD.4030304@dls.net>

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Mike (mwester) schreef:
| Here's what I've found out: There is no such thing as a
| "PREFERRED_VERSION" or "PREFERRED_PROVIDER" solution for this ipkg/opkg
| problem.  A simple grep tells us why (some random lines I picked out of
| the output from grep):
|
| classes/image.bbclass:          echo "src/gz local-$arch
| ${FEED_DEPLOYDIR_BASE_URI}/$arch" >>
| ${IMAGE_ROOTFS}/etc/opkg/local-$arch-feed.conf
| classes/rootfs_ipk.bbclass:                     opkg-cl ${IPKG_ARGS}
| flag unpacked `basename $i .postinst`
|
| etc, etc -- it's pretty clear that opkg is hardcoded all over the place.

And that used to be ipkg hardcoded all over the place.

| So it seems that everyone *MUST* comply, and migrate to opkg -- unless
| you want to just freeze your distro on an old version of OE.

Or use the stable branch? The stable branch seems to fit your needs:
It's available, it's maintained and changes can only go in through a
public and open review process.

| Now after several hours trying to figure out what to do with this opkg
| stuff, it seems that there's something that is supposed to make
| compatability possible, although there are no documents anywhere on this
| .  So I added opkg-ipkg-compat to task-slugos.bb, and bumped the PR.

opkg-ipkg-compat is to make opkg work on an ipkg system, not the other
way around. What you are after is something that symlinks /usr/lib/opkg
- -> /usr/lib/ipkg, /etc/opkg -> /etc/ipkg, adds opkg to PACKAGE_REMOVE
(like in liveramdisk-image.bb) etc

| A) Where are the docs on opkg?

Mickeyl sent a mail to this list about that over a month ago.

| B) How does one modify distros to live in the new world order that's
| been decreed?

Dunno, that's up to the distro maintainer. I can only say "look at poky"
or "look at angstrom"

| And in the long term:
| How do we go about setting up fixing all this opkg stuff so that we
| properly abstract it, allowing a distro to select ipkg, opkg, upkg, and
| sometimes-ypkg that they desire?

You mean something like ANGSTROM_PKG_FORMAT angstrom has?

I believe these sorts of problems stem from the fact that you don't have
the time to keep up with the pace of .dev, so I really think distros
like unslung are better of using the stable branch, instead of wasting
energy trying to keep up with .dev.
That being said, I don't think OE developers sit at their desks trying
to thinks how to make life difficult for distro maintainer.

Koen
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-03-23 11:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-18  8:55 [RFC] move to opkg Koen Kooi
2008-03-18  9:55 ` Junqian Gordon Xu
2008-03-19 15:33   ` WPkg Silvano Catinella
2008-03-25 17:23     ` WPkg Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
2008-03-25 23:42       ` WPkg Rod Whitby
2008-04-01  9:15         ` WPkg Silvano Catinella
2008-03-18  9:56 ` [RFC] move to opkg Marcin Juszkiewicz
2008-03-18 10:09   ` Koen Kooi
2008-03-18 10:42     ` Koen Kooi
2008-03-18 11:34       ` Jacob Thebault-Spieker
2008-03-18 11:42 ` Koen Kooi
2008-03-18 13:49 ` Geoffrey Wossum
2008-03-18 14:32   ` Koen Kooi
2008-03-18 16:48     ` Richard Purdie
2008-03-18 17:05       ` Koen Kooi
2008-03-23  0:38         ` Mike (mwester)
2008-03-23  5:17           ` Mike (mwester)
2008-03-23 10:43             ` Marcin Juszkiewicz
2008-03-23 11:02             ` Koen Kooi [this message]
2008-03-23 13:25               ` Mike (mwester)
2008-03-23 18:18               ` Tom Rini
2008-03-23 18:55                 ` Koen Kooi
2008-03-23 22:20                   ` Tom Rini
2008-03-23 23:10                     ` Rod Whitby
2008-03-23 23:06           ` Richard Purdie
2008-03-23 23:46             ` Rod Whitby
2008-03-24  4:30             ` Mike (mwester)
2008-03-24  7:55               ` Stelios Koroneos
2008-03-18 18:12     ` Tom Rini
2008-03-18 18:18       ` Mikhail Gusarov
2008-03-18 18:40         ` Koen Kooi
2008-03-19  9:06           ` Richard Purdie
2008-03-19  9:13             ` Marcin Juszkiewicz
2008-03-18 14:35   ` Marcin Juszkiewicz
2008-03-18 22:00 ` Koen Kooi
2008-03-19 17:52 ` [RFC] move to opkg / md5 error on big-endian machine Jeremy Lainé
2008-03-22 20:38   ` Jeremy Lainé
2008-03-23 10:59 ` [RFC] move to opkg Jeremy Lainé

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