All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
* [RFC] netfilter: Rename ipt_ECN.h to ipt_ecn_target.h (and similar) to avoid file name clash
@ 2008-08-15 22:03 Pēteris Kļaviņš
  2008-08-16 14:04 ` Jan Engelhardt
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Pēteris Kļaviņš @ 2008-08-15 22:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: netfilter-devel

This is a request for comments on the proposal that the following 
filename changes (indicative at this point) be made in the netfilter 
source code tree, together with correcting the corresponding references 
to the files in both source code, the build system, and wherever else 
necessary.

The changes are proposed in order to avoid file name clashes on 
filesystems that do not allow two files to have names that differ only 
in the case of their letters:

include/linux/netfilter/xt_CONNMARK.h => xt_connmark_target.h
include/linux/netfilter/xt_DSCP.h => xt_dscp_target.h
include/linux/netfilter/xt_MARK.h => xt_mark_target.h
include/linux/netfilter/xt_RATEEST.h => xt_rateest_target.h
include/linux/netfilter/xt_TCPMSS.h => xt_tcpmss_target.h
include/linux/netfilter_ipv4/ipt_CONNMARK.h => ipt_connmark_target.h
include/linux/netfilter_ipv4/ipt_DSCP.h => ipt_dscp_target.h
include/linux/netfilter_ipv4/ipt_ECN.h => ipt_ecn_target.h
include/linux/netfilter_ipv4/ipt_MARK.h => ipt_mark_target.h
include/linux/netfilter_ipv4/ipt_TCPMSS.h => ipt_tcpmss_target.h
include/linux/netfilter_ipv4/ipt_TOS.h => ipt_tos_target.h
include/linux/netfilter_ipv4/ipt_TTL.h => ipt_ttl_target.h
include/linux/netfilter_ipv6/ip6t_HL.h => ip6t_hl_target.h
include/linux/netfilter_ipv6/ip6t_MARK.h => ip6t_mark_target.h
net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_ECN.c => ipt_ecn_target.c
net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_TTL.c => ipt_ttl_target.c
net/ipv6/netfilter/ip6t_HL.c => ip6t_hl_target.c
net/netfilter/xt_CONNMARK.c => xt_connmark_target.c
net/netfilter/xt_DSCP.c => xt_dscp_target.c
net/netfilter/xt_MARK.c => xt_mark_target.c
net/netfilter/xt_RATEEST.c => xt_rateest_target.c
net/netfilter/xt_TCPMSS.c => xt_tcpmss_target.c

This has been discussed before on the git mailing list (see thread 
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/38612 ), and I 
believe it to be a problem that will start to crop up more often than 
not, given the proliferation of open source code onto a variety of 
platforms that have this type of filename intolerance.

The reason for posting to this list is to hear your considered opinion 
on the impact of these proposed file name changes on the netfilter and 
linux kernel development communities.  If you prefer I submit complete 
patches before discussion, I could try to do that.

-- 
  Peter Klavins


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread

* Re: [RFC] netfilter: Rename ipt_ECN.h to ipt_ecn_target.h (and similar) to avoid file name clash
  2008-08-15 22:03 [RFC] netfilter: Rename ipt_ECN.h to ipt_ecn_target.h (and similar) to avoid file name clash Pēteris Kļaviņš
@ 2008-08-16 14:04 ` Jan Engelhardt
  2008-08-16 15:32   ` Pēteris Kļaviņš
  2008-08-16 19:14   ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Jan Engelhardt @ 2008-08-16 14:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Pēteris Kļaviņš
  Cc: Netfilter Developer Mailing List, kaber


On Friday 2008-08-15 18:03, Pēteris Kļaviņš wrote:

> This is a request for comments on the proposal that the following
> filename changes (indicative at this point) be made in the
> netfilter source code tree, together with correcting the
> corresponding references to the files in both source code, the
> build system, and wherever else necessary.
>
> The changes are proposed in order to avoid file name clashes on
> filesystems that do not allow two files to have names that differ
> only in the case of their letters:
>
> include/linux/netfilter/xt_CONNMARK.h => xt_connmark_target.h
[...]

As I see it, this will already be addressed by merging complementary
code into one source file (e.g. MARK, mark, CONNMARK, connmark
all into a big new xt_mark.c), to reduce (a) amount of files
and (b) build time.

This has been touched before at
http://marc.info/?l=netfilter-devel&m=121148631320895&w=2
I welcome that idea, but have yet been holding off sending patches
on that because these code-moving changes would possibly generate
a lot of .rej noise while I am still having other patches in my
queue.
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netfilter-devel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread

* Re: [RFC] netfilter: Rename ipt_ECN.h to ipt_ecn_target.h (and   similar) to avoid file name clash
  2008-08-16 14:04 ` Jan Engelhardt
@ 2008-08-16 15:32   ` Pēteris Kļaviņš
  2008-08-16 19:14   ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Pēteris Kļaviņš @ 2008-08-16 15:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: netfilter-devel

Jan Engelhardt wrote:
>> include/linux/netfilter/xt_CONNMARK.h => xt_connmark_target.h
> [...]
> 
> As I see it, this will already be addressed by merging complementary
> code into one source file (e.g. MARK, mark, CONNMARK, connmark
> all into a big new xt_mark.c), to reduce (a) amount of files
> and (b) build time.
> 
> This has been touched before at
> http://marc.info/?l=netfilter-devel&m=121148631320895&w=2
> I welcome that idea, but have yet been holding off sending patches
> on that because these code-moving changes would possibly generate
> a lot of .rej noise while I am still having other patches in my
> queue.

Thanks very much for the heads-up on the pending code simplification, of 
course it makes sense to rename files as part of that work.

I'll clone git://git.netfilter.org/iptables.git regularly, watching for 
the file name clashes to go away, and I'll only nag on this list if I 
think that it's been forgotten, I hope that's OK.

-- 
  Peter Klavins


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread

* Re: [RFC] netfilter: Rename ipt_ECN.h to ipt_ecn_target.h (and similar) to avoid file name clash
  2008-08-16 14:04 ` Jan Engelhardt
  2008-08-16 15:32   ` Pēteris Kļaviņš
@ 2008-08-16 19:14   ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
  2008-08-16 19:22     ` Jan Engelhardt
  2008-08-18 11:17     ` Patrick McHardy
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Jozsef Kadlecsik @ 2008-08-16 19:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jan Engelhardt
  Cc: Pteris Kaviš, Netfilter Developer Mailing List,
	Patrick McHardy

[-- Attachment #1: Type: TEXT/PLAIN, Size: 1734 bytes --]

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008, Jan Engelhardt wrote:

> On Friday 2008-08-15 18:03, P˙˙teris K˙˙avi˙˙š wrote:
> 
> > This is a request for comments on the proposal that the following
> > filename changes (indicative at this point) be made in the
> > netfilter source code tree, together with correcting the
> > corresponding references to the files in both source code, the
> > build system, and wherever else necessary.
> >
> > The changes are proposed in order to avoid file name clashes on
> > filesystems that do not allow two files to have names that differ
> > only in the case of their letters:
> >
> > include/linux/netfilter/xt_CONNMARK.h => xt_connmark_target.h
> [...]
> 
> As I see it, this will already be addressed by merging complementary
> code into one source file (e.g. MARK, mark, CONNMARK, connmark
> all into a big new xt_mark.c), to reduce (a) amount of files
> and (b) build time.
[...]

That is half of the story: we encode the functionality (match/target) in 
the case of the (file)name and there are targets which have got no match 
counterpart and thus no natural lowercase filename to merge into it. So 
the directory tree still will be broken on case-insensitive filesystems. 

If as a side effect of some real internal changes netfilter becomes 
compatible with case-insensitive filesystems, that's fine. However, I 
object changes just for the sake to be compatible with such horrid 
filesystems.
 
Best regards,
Jozsef
the NACK guy of the week
-
E-mail  : kadlec@blackhole.kfki.hu, kadlec@mail.kfki.hu
PGP key : http://www.kfki.hu/~kadlec/pgp_public_key.txt
Address : KFKI Research Institute for Particle and Nuclear Physics
          H-1525 Budapest 114, POB. 49, Hungary

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread

* Re: [RFC] netfilter: Rename ipt_ECN.h to ipt_ecn_target.h (and similar) to avoid file name clash
  2008-08-16 19:14   ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
@ 2008-08-16 19:22     ` Jan Engelhardt
  2008-08-16 19:52       ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
  2008-08-18 11:17     ` Patrick McHardy
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Jan Engelhardt @ 2008-08-16 19:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jozsef Kadlecsik
  Cc: Pteris Kaviš, Netfilter Developer Mailing List,
	Patrick McHardy


On Saturday 2008-08-16 15:14, Jozsef Kadlecsik wrote:
>On Sat, 16 Aug 2008, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
>> On Friday 2008-08-15 18:03, P˙˙teris K˙˙avi˙˙š wrote:
>> 
>> > The changes are proposed in order to avoid file name clashes on
>> > filesystems that do not allow two files to have names that differ
>> > only in the case of their letters:
>> >
>> > include/linux/netfilter/xt_CONNMARK.h => xt_connmark_target.h
>> [...]
>> 
>> As I see it, this will already be addressed by merging complementary
>> code into one source file (e.g. MARK, mark, CONNMARK, connmark
>> all into a big new xt_mark.c), to reduce (a) amount of files
>> and (b) build time.
>[...]
>
>That is half of the story: we encode the functionality (match/target) in 
>the case of the (file)name and there are targets which have got no match 
>counterpart and thus no natural lowercase filename to merge into it. So 
>the directory tree still will be broken on case-insensitive filesystems. 

We have not decided on filenames yet, just that matches/targets that
are commonly used together should go into a single file for the two
above-mentioned reasons, and lower-casing does not appear in (a) or (b).
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netfilter-devel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread

* Re: [RFC] netfilter: Rename ipt_ECN.h to ipt_ecn_target.h (and similar) to avoid file name clash
  2008-08-16 19:22     ` Jan Engelhardt
@ 2008-08-16 19:52       ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
  2008-08-16 20:19         ` Pēteris Kļaviņš
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Jozsef Kadlecsik @ 2008-08-16 19:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jan Engelhardt
  Cc: Pteris Kaviš, Netfilter Developer Mailing List,
	Patrick McHardy

[-- Attachment #1: Type: TEXT/PLAIN, Size: 2064 bytes --]

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008, Jan Engelhardt wrote:

> On Saturday 2008-08-16 15:14, Jozsef Kadlecsik wrote:
> >On Sat, 16 Aug 2008, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> >> On Friday 2008-08-15 18:03, P˙˙teris K˙˙avi˙˙š wrote:
> >> 
> >> > The changes are proposed in order to avoid file name clashes on
> >> > filesystems that do not allow two files to have names that differ
> >> > only in the case of their letters:
> >> >
> >> > include/linux/netfilter/xt_CONNMARK.h => xt_connmark_target.h
> >> [...]
> >> 
> >> As I see it, this will already be addressed by merging complementary
> >> code into one source file (e.g. MARK, mark, CONNMARK, connmark
> >> all into a big new xt_mark.c), to reduce (a) amount of files
> >> and (b) build time.
> >[...]
> >
> >That is half of the story: we encode the functionality (match/target) in 
> >the case of the (file)name and there are targets which have got no match 
> >counterpart and thus no natural lowercase filename to merge into it. So 
> >the directory tree still will be broken on case-insensitive filesystems. 
> 
> We have not decided on filenames yet, just that matches/targets that
> are commonly used together should go into a single file for the two
> above-mentioned reasons, and lower-casing does not appear in (a) or (b).

You wrote: "by merging into ... a big new xt_mark.c". Pteris also 
suggested fully lowercased names, e.g. xt_connmark_target.h. Or are you 
just pulling my leg by pointing to the possibility to >capitalize< all 
the filenames in netfilter, to achieve case-insensitive filenames?

But of course I'm writing about (c): 

libipt_SNAT|DNAT|MASQUERADE|REDIRECT|SAME|NETMAP.c
libipt_LOG.c, libxt_NFLOG.c,
...

And you are fully aware that the same case-sensitivity applies to the 
source of iptables as well.

Best regards,
Jozsef
-
E-mail  : kadlec@blackhole.kfki.hu, kadlec@mail.kfki.hu
PGP key : http://www.kfki.hu/~kadlec/pgp_public_key.txt
Address : KFKI Research Institute for Particle and Nuclear Physics
          H-1525 Budapest 114, POB. 49, Hungary

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread

* Re: [RFC] netfilter: Rename ipt_ECN.h to ipt_ecn_target.h (and   similar) to avoid file name clash
  2008-08-16 19:52       ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
@ 2008-08-16 20:19         ` Pēteris Kļaviņš
  2008-08-17 22:04           ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Pēteris Kļaviņš @ 2008-08-16 20:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: netfilter-devel

Jozsef Kadlecsik wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Aug 2008, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> 
>> On Saturday 2008-08-16 15:14, Jozsef Kadlecsik wrote:
>>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2008, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
>>>> On Friday 2008-08-15 18:03, P˙˙teris K˙˙avi˙˙š wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The changes are proposed in order to avoid file name clashes on
>>>>> filesystems that do not allow two files to have names that differ
>>>>> only in the case of their letters:
>>>>>
>>>>> include/linux/netfilter/xt_CONNMARK.h => xt_connmark_target.h
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> As I see it, this will already be addressed by merging complementary
>>>> code into one source file (e.g. MARK, mark, CONNMARK, connmark
>>>> all into a big new xt_mark.c), to reduce (a) amount of files
>>>> and (b) build time.
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> That is half of the story: we encode the functionality (match/target) in 
>>> the case of the (file)name and there are targets which have got no match 
>>> counterpart and thus no natural lowercase filename to merge into it. So 
>>> the directory tree still will be broken on case-insensitive filesystems. 
>> We have not decided on filenames yet, just that matches/targets that
>> are commonly used together should go into a single file for the two
>> above-mentioned reasons, and lower-casing does not appear in (a) or (b).
> 
> You wrote: "by merging into ... a big new xt_mark.c". Pteris also 
> suggested fully lowercased names, e.g. xt_connmark_target.h. Or are you 
> just pulling my leg by pointing to the possibility to >capitalize< all 
> the filenames in netfilter, to achieve case-insensitive filenames?

My suggested names were taken from within the files themselves.  Note 
that the standard #ifdef multiple inclusion guards in the existing files 
could not follow normal practice and had to be modified in some way, 
because by tradition they are simply uppercase transformations of the 
filename itself (but that would end up in a clash!), and so the 
xt_CONNMARK.h include guard is "_XT_CONNMARK_H_target".  By natural 
extension, my proposal was to rename the existing uppercase file to 
xt_connmark_target.h.  However, for the typical case-insensitive 
filesystems out there, it is fine for the file to be called 
xt_CONNMARK_target.h, and I have no objection to that, so long as that 
doesn't clash with another filename differing only in the case of the 
letters:

$ ls | grep -i xt_connmark | while read i; do grep _H $i /dev/null; done
xt_CONNMARK.h:#ifndef _XT_CONNMARK_H_target
xt_CONNMARK.h:#define _XT_CONNMARK_H_target
xt_CONNMARK.h:#endif /*_XT_CONNMARK_H_target*/
xt_connmark.h:#ifndef _XT_CONNMARK_H
xt_connmark.h:#define _XT_CONNMARK_H
xt_connmark.h:#endif /*_XT_CONNMARK_H*/

-- 
  Peter Klavins

--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netfilter-devel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread

* Re: [RFC] netfilter: Rename ipt_ECN.h to ipt_ecn_target.h (and   similar) to avoid file name clash
  2008-08-16 20:19         ` Pēteris Kļaviņš
@ 2008-08-17 22:04           ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
  2008-08-17 22:18             ` Jan Engelhardt
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Jozsef Kadlecsik @ 2008-08-17 22:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Pēteris Kļaviņš; +Cc: netfilter-devel

[-- Attachment #1: Type: TEXT/PLAIN, Size: 2967 bytes --]

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008, Pteris Kaviš wrote:

> Jozsef Kadlecsik wrote:
> > On Sat, 16 Aug 2008, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> > 
> > > On Saturday 2008-08-16 15:14, Jozsef Kadlecsik wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 16 Aug 2008, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> > > > > On Friday 2008-08-15 18:03, Pteris Kaviš wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > The changes are proposed in order to avoid file name clashes on
> > > > > > filesystems that do not allow two files to have names that differ
> > > > > > only in the case of their letters:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > include/linux/netfilter/xt_CONNMARK.h => xt_connmark_target.h
> > > > > [...]
> > > > > 
> > > > > As I see it, this will already be addressed by merging complementary
> > > > > code into one source file (e.g. MARK, mark, CONNMARK, connmark
> > > > > all into a big new xt_mark.c), to reduce (a) amount of files
> > > > > and (b) build time.
> > > > [...]
> > > > 
> > > > That is half of the story: we encode the functionality (match/target) in
> > > > the case of the (file)name and there are targets which have got no match
> > > > counterpart and thus no natural lowercase filename to merge into it. So
> > > > the directory tree still will be broken on case-insensitive filesystems. 
> > > We have not decided on filenames yet, just that matches/targets that
> > > are commonly used together should go into a single file for the two
> > > above-mentioned reasons, and lower-casing does not appear in (a) or (b).
> > 
> > You wrote: "by merging into ... a big new xt_mark.c". Pteris also suggested
> > fully lowercased names, e.g. xt_connmark_target.h. Or are you just pulling
> > my leg by pointing to the possibility to >capitalize< all the filenames in
> > netfilter, to achieve case-insensitive filenames?
> 
> My suggested names were taken from within the files themselves.  Note 
> that the standard #ifdef multiple inclusion guards in the existing files 
> could not follow normal practice and had to be modified in some way, 
> because by tradition they are simply uppercase transformations of the 
> filename itself (but that would end up in a clash!), and so the 
> xt_CONNMARK.h include guard is "_XT_CONNMARK_H_target".  By natural 
> extension, my proposal was to rename the existing uppercase file to 
> xt_connmark_target.h.  However, for the typical case-insensitive 
> filesystems out there, it is fine for the file to be called 
> xt_CONNMARK_target.h, and I have no objection to that, so long as that 
> doesn't clash with another filename differing only in the case of the 
> letters:
[...]

I should have looked up the old thread at the first place:
http://marc.info/?l=netfilter-devel&m=109795874701112&w=2

Best regards,
Jozsef
-
E-mail  : kadlec@blackhole.kfki.hu, kadlec@mail.kfki.hu
PGP key : http://www.kfki.hu/~kadlec/pgp_public_key.txt
Address : KFKI Research Institute for Particle and Nuclear Physics
          H-1525 Budapest 114, POB. 49, Hungary

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread

* Re: [RFC] netfilter: Rename ipt_ECN.h to ipt_ecn_target.h (and   similar) to avoid file name clash
  2008-08-17 22:04           ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
@ 2008-08-17 22:18             ` Jan Engelhardt
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Jan Engelhardt @ 2008-08-17 22:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jozsef Kadlecsik; +Cc: Pēteris Kļaviņš, netfilter-devel


On Sunday 2008-08-17 18:04, Jozsef Kadlecsik wrote:
>
>I should have looked up the old thread at the first place:
>http://marc.info/?l=netfilter-devel&m=109795874701112&w=2
>
Hey that just shows we have been fine for over four years now! :D

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread

* Re: [RFC] netfilter: Rename ipt_ECN.h to ipt_ecn_target.h (and similar) to avoid file name clash
  2008-08-16 19:14   ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
  2008-08-16 19:22     ` Jan Engelhardt
@ 2008-08-18 11:17     ` Patrick McHardy
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Patrick McHardy @ 2008-08-18 11:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jozsef Kadlecsik
  Cc: Jan Engelhardt, Pteris Kavi¹,
	Netfilter Developer Mailing List

Jozsef Kadlecsik wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Aug 2008, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> 
>> On Friday 2008-08-15 18:03, P˙˙teris K˙˙avi˙˙š wrote:
>>
>>> This is a request for comments on the proposal that the following
>>> filename changes (indicative at this point) be made in the
>>> netfilter source code tree, together with correcting the
>>> corresponding references to the files in both source code, the
>>> build system, and wherever else necessary.
>>>
>>> The changes are proposed in order to avoid file name clashes on
>>> filesystems that do not allow two files to have names that differ
>>> only in the case of their letters:
>>>
>>> include/linux/netfilter/xt_CONNMARK.h => xt_connmark_target.h
>> [...]
>>
>> As I see it, this will already be addressed by merging complementary
>> code into one source file (e.g. MARK, mark, CONNMARK, connmark
>> all into a big new xt_mark.c), to reduce (a) amount of files
>> and (b) build time.
> [...]
> 
> That is half of the story: we encode the functionality (match/target) in 
> the case of the (file)name and there are targets which have got no match 
> counterpart and thus no natural lowercase filename to merge into it. So 
> the directory tree still will be broken on case-insensitive filesystems. 
> 
> If as a side effect of some real internal changes netfilter becomes 
> compatible with case-insensitive filesystems, that's fine. However, I 
> object changes just for the sake to be compatible with such horrid 
> filesystems.

I agree. Without compat files this would also break compilation
of old userspace, so this is not an option anyways.

--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netfilter-devel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread

end of thread, other threads:[~2008-08-18 11:17 UTC | newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages (download: mbox.gz follow: Atom feed
-- links below jump to the message on this page --
2008-08-15 22:03 [RFC] netfilter: Rename ipt_ECN.h to ipt_ecn_target.h (and similar) to avoid file name clash Pēteris Kļaviņš
2008-08-16 14:04 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-08-16 15:32   ` Pēteris Kļaviņš
2008-08-16 19:14   ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2008-08-16 19:22     ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-08-16 19:52       ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2008-08-16 20:19         ` Pēteris Kļaviņš
2008-08-17 22:04           ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2008-08-17 22:18             ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-08-18 11:17     ` Patrick McHardy

This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.