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From: "Alexander E. Patrakov" <patrakov@gmail.com>
To: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: Backported sbxfi driver, possible fix
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:15:07 +0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ge3irb$knf$1@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5h7i7v22cl.wl%tiwai@suse.de>

Takashi Iwai wrote:
> A few important features are in my mind:
> - continuous rate support

In the sources, you have:

> Note: 44.1kHz is possible, but is more complex because it uses a method
> whereby the channel ring marks each sample in the channel ring as valid
> or not, so to get 44.1kHz, some samples are simply tagged invalid. The
> "channel ring" is not the ring buffer that is used to get sound samples
> to the card. The "channel ring" is used to pass samples between
> different processing modules on the card. One of these processing
> modules is the SRC, another is the INs/OUTs, another is the hardware
> mixer, and yet another is the DSP.

Do I understand correctly that the card internally resamples the sound 
to a different rate using the zero-order-hold method? If so, I'd rather 
not see this feature at all unless the "i_want_horrible_sound" parameter 
is passed, because software can do it better, and some program will 
surely default to using this hardware misfeature.

OTOH, Wine is doing this for ages and nobody except me complains 
(http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14717)

-- 
Alexander E. Patrakov
(not an owner of any Creative card)

  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-27  5:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-09 18:02 Backported sbxfi driver (UNTESTED!) Takashi Iwai
2008-10-09 18:12 ` Brendan Pike
2008-10-09 18:25 ` Ted T. Logian
2008-10-09 18:25 ` William Pitcock
2008-10-09 18:49 ` Ted T. Logian
2008-10-09 19:50 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-10-10  6:02   ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-09 20:03 ` Ted T. Logian
2008-10-09 20:17 ` Ted T. Logian
2008-10-10  6:01   ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-10  6:26     ` Ted T. Logian
2008-10-10  6:46       ` Takashi Iwai
     [not found]         ` <6d00fe310810100939h6cd61e0cg7817c7f54f6261f6@mail.gmail.com>
2008-10-10 16:41           ` Fwd: " The Source
2008-10-11 15:47           ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-11 16:03             ` Ted T. Logian
2008-10-11 17:32               ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-12  8:41                 ` Vedran Miletić
2008-10-12  8:48                   ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-10-12  9:43                     ` The Source
2008-10-12  8:44                 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-10-13  9:52                   ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-11 16:28             ` The Source
2008-10-11 17:34               ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-10 18:17         ` William Pitcock
2008-10-11 16:01           ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-11 17:36             ` William Pitcock
2008-10-11 17:39               ` William Pitcock
2008-10-11 17:41               ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-11 17:43                 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-11 18:04                 ` William Pitcock
2008-10-12 19:34                   ` Takashi Iwai
     [not found]                     ` <e4b753d00810121816i133141d5te6a4d638044f3875@mail.gmail.com>
2008-10-13  2:08                       ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-13  9:51                     ` Takashi Iwai
2009-06-10  8:39       ` problems with fedora 11 and pulseaudio and svn x-fi driver Ted T. Logan
2009-06-10  8:52         ` Ted T. Logan
2009-06-10  9:29           ` Takashi Iwai
2009-06-10 16:23             ` Ted T. Logan
2009-06-10 16:48             ` Ted T. Logan
2009-06-11 14:48             ` Ted T. Logan
2009-06-12 16:46             ` "ticks" with latest " Ted T. Logan
2008-10-16 12:03 ` Backported sbxfi driver (UNTESTED!) Jan Wolf
2008-10-16 12:33   ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-16 12:56     ` Xarteras
2008-10-16 13:36       ` The Source
2008-10-16 13:48         ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-16 14:15           ` The Source
2008-10-16 14:18             ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-16 14:41               ` The Source
2008-10-16 14:42                 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-16 14:51                   ` The Source
2008-10-16 15:00                   ` The Source
2008-10-16 15:04                     ` Takashi Iwai
     [not found]                       ` <48F75892.8000209@gmail.com>
2008-10-16 15:15                         ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-16 17:53                           ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-16 18:02                             ` The Source
2008-10-16 18:18                           ` The Source
2008-10-17  6:17                             ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-17  6:26                               ` The Source
2008-10-17  6:39                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-17  7:16                                   ` The Source
2008-10-17  8:17                                   ` The Source
2008-10-17  9:00                                   ` Xarteras
2008-10-17  9:17                                     ` The Source
2008-10-17  9:25                                       ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-17  9:23                                     ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-17  9:50                                       ` Xarteras
2008-10-17 10:00                                         ` Tony Vroon
2008-10-17 10:35                                           ` Xarteras
2008-10-17 15:33                                             ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-17  7:57                               ` The Source
2008-10-17  9:35                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-17  9:58                                   ` The Source
2008-10-17  9:59                                     ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-17 10:01                                       ` The Source
2008-10-17 10:04                                         ` Takashi Iwai
     [not found]                                           ` <48F86606.9070108@gmail.com>
2008-10-17 10:27                                             ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-17 20:48                                               ` William Pitcock
2008-10-18 10:06                                               ` Xarteras
2008-10-18 15:06                                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-18 17:10                                                   ` William Pitcock
2008-10-18 17:17                                                     ` William Pitcock
2008-10-19  7:59                                                       ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-19 18:07                                                         ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-19 19:47                                                           ` William Pitcock
2008-10-16 21:29           ` Xarteras
2008-10-17 18:16             ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-10-22 15:24           ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-22 15:26             ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-22 16:07               ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-22 16:24                 ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-22 19:25                   ` The Source
2008-10-23  5:40                     ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-23 11:46                       ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-23 11:53                         ` Jason Harvey
2008-10-23 13:56                           ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-23 12:45                             ` Jason Harvey
2008-10-23 13:07                               ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-23 13:21                                 ` Jason Harvey
2008-10-23 15:54                               ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-23 14:23                                 ` Jason Harvey
2008-10-23 17:07                                   ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-23 17:15                                     ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-23 15:37                                       ` Jason Harvey
2008-10-23 15:40                                         ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-23 17:44                                         ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-23 17:49                                           ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-23 16:23                                             ` Jason Harvey
2008-10-23 19:14                                               ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-23 17:32                                                 ` Jason Harvey
2008-10-23 21:30                                                   ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-23 20:17                                                     ` Jason Harvey
2008-10-24  8:40                                                       ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-24  7:56                                                         ` Jason Harvey
2008-10-24 10:21                                                           ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-24  8:50                                                             ` Jason Harvey
2008-10-25 13:06                                                             ` Backported sbxfi driver, possible fix Thomas Scheunemann
2008-10-25 16:05                                                               ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-25 19:42                                                                 ` Thomas Scheunemann
2008-10-25 19:59                                                                   ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-25 20:40                                                                     ` Jason Harvey
2008-10-25 21:57                                                                       ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-26  6:32                                                                         ` The Source
2008-10-26  8:23                                                                           ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-26  9:11                                                                             ` The Source
2008-10-26  9:17                                                                             ` The Source
2008-10-26  6:45                                                                         ` The Source
2008-10-26  6:56                                                                         ` The Source
2008-10-26  7:22                                                                           ` The Source
2008-10-26  8:21                                                                         ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-27  5:15                                                                           ` Alexander E. Patrakov [this message]
2008-10-27  5:32                                                                             ` The Source
2008-10-27  6:28                                                                               ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-27  6:34                                                                                 ` The Source
2008-10-27  6:39                                                                                   ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-28  0:10                                                                                 ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-28  7:14                                                                                   ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-28 13:48                                                                                     ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-28 14:12                                                                                       ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-30 10:46                                                                                         ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-30 11:05                                                                                           ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-30 11:07                                                                                             ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-30 12:25                                                                                               ` Bjoern Olausson
2008-10-28  6:59                                                                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-27  6:36                                                                             ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-27 20:08                                                                             ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-10-28  4:44                                                                               ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2008-10-28  9:31                                                                               ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-28 10:53                                                                               ` Vedran Miletić
2008-10-29  8:38                                                                               ` Pavel Hofman
2008-10-26  8:16                                                                       ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-26  8:45                                                                         ` Backported sbxfi driver. Pulse works! Jason Harvey
2008-10-23 17:26                                       ` Backported sbxfi driver (UNTESTED!) Takashi Iwai
2008-10-23 15:31                                         ` Jason Harvey
2008-10-23 17:41                                           ` Takashi Iwai
2008-10-23 14:48                                 ` Jason Harvey
2008-10-23 13:54                         ` Takashi Iwai

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