[lm-sensors] Wiki changes

[lm-sensors] Wiki changes

[Jean Delvare]

Hi all,

During my vacation, I made a number of changes to the wiki.

* Shorter "Starting points" list. I merged "Uses" into the project
  information page, and moved "Hardware Hacking" and "Useful Links"
  to the Documentation page.
  Rationale: make it easier for users to find their way to what they
  are most probably looking for.
  There may be one or two additional links we could move, for example
  the "Using lm_sensors with 2.6.x kernels" link, as I believe it
  has lost most of its value by now.

* Separate pages for Linux 2.4 hardware support status and Linux 2.6
  hardware support status.
  Rationale: the two device lists have diverged significantly over
  time.
  The Linux 2.4 drivers (from lm-sensors 2) are essentially frozen
  now, so that page should almost never change. And having a
  dedicated page for Linux 2.6 support will make it easier to read
  and maintain.

* "Bus type" column added to the hardware monitoring device drivers
  tables.
  Rationale: let the user know if he/she needs a working I2C or SPI
  adapter driver for his hardware monitoring chip to be found.

* Dropped news older than 2002 (inclusive).
  Rationale: old news aren't that interesting, especially considering
  that most news items are links to things which no longer exist.
  I propose that from now on we keep 5 years of old news in the
  archive, no more. I also moved the 2007 news items from the front
  page to the archive, and fixed all the broken links in the news
  archive.

Additionally, I tried to improve the text of several pages to make it
clearer and more up-to-date.

If anyone has objections to these changes, please let me know. Trac
makes it easy to revert changes.

If anyone has ideas to improve the lm-sensors website or wants to
help maintaining it, please let me know. Creating new wiki accounts
is easy.

-- 
Jean Delvare

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Re: [lm-sensors] Wiki changes

[Mark Nienberg]

Jean Delvare wrote:

> If anyone has ideas to improve the lm-sensors website or wants to
> help maintaining it, please let me know. Creating new wiki accounts
> is easy. 

I think it would be nice to open up the motherboard specific section of the wiki so 
anyone could post information there.  I think it would accumulate a lot of useful 
information if we encouraged users to post info from their "sensors.conf" files and 
discuss their hardware-specific findings there.

http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/Configurations

Mark


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Re: [lm-sensors] Wiki changes

[Jean Delvare]

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:38:56 -0800, Mark Nienberg wrote:
> Jean Delvare wrote:
> 
> > If anyone has ideas to improve the lm-sensors website or wants to
> > help maintaining it, please let me know. Creating new wiki accounts
> > is easy. 
> 
> I think it would be nice to open up the motherboard specific section of the wiki so 
> anyone could post information there.  I think it would accumulate a lot of useful 
> information if we encouraged users to post info from their "sensors.conf" files and 
> discuss their hardware-specific findings there.
> 
> http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/Configurations

I would love to do that, except that spambots would ruin the collection
faster than users would improve it. We've tried to open the wiki for
public edition in the past and that's what happened. Trac is simply not
meant for this.

That being said, if someone comes up with a solution, that allows users
to contribute their configuration files while still preventing spambots
from ruining our wiki, I'm all ears.

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Re: [lm-sensors] Wiki changes

[Mark Nienberg]

Jean Delvare wrote:

> I would love to do that, except that spambots would ruin the collection
> faster than users would improve it. We've tried to open the wiki for
> public edition in the past and that's what happened. Trac is simply not
> meant for this.
> 
> That being said, if someone comes up with a solution, that allows users
> to contribute their configuration files while still preventing spambots
> from ruining our wiki, I'm all ears.

I agree that can be a problem. Maybe just a captcha system would be enough?

http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/SpamFilter

Mark


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Re: [lm-sensors] Wiki changes

[Jean Delvare]

On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:20:16 -0800, Mark Nienberg wrote:
> Jean Delvare wrote:
> 
> > I would love to do that, except that spambots would ruin the collection
> > faster than users would improve it. We've tried to open the wiki for
> > public edition in the past and that's what happened. Trac is simply not
> > meant for this.
> > 
> > That being said, if someone comes up with a solution, that allows users
> > to contribute their configuration files while still preventing spambots
> > from ruining our wiki, I'm all ears.
> 
> I agree that can be a problem. Maybe just a captcha system would be enough?
> 
> http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/SpamFilter

Well, ideally what I would like to have is a bugzilla-like approach
where people can create their own account in exchange of a valid e-mail
address. This would let us track who changes what. And I am not aware
of any bugzilla system being affected by spam.

But if this is not possible, then any solution that will let anonymous
users contribute to the wiki while not making authenticated user lives
more complex and that is robust to spammers is fine with me.

At this point it's up to the trac system administrator to continue.
Axel, what can you offer?

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Re: [lm-sensors] Wiki changes

[Jean Delvare]

On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:11:27 +0100, Jean Delvare wrote:
> Well, ideally what I would like to have is a bugzilla-like approach
> where people can create their own account in exchange of a valid e-mail
> address. This would let us track who changes what. And I am not aware
> of any bugzilla system being affected by spam.
> 
> But if this is not possible, then any solution that will let anonymous
> users contribute to the wiki while not making authenticated user lives
> more complex and that is robust to spammers is fine with me.
> 
> At this point it's up to the trac system administrator to continue.
> Axel, what can you offer?

In the meantime, Mark, are you interested in a wiki account to
contribute your own configuration files and possibly others? If you
are, please send _me_ the output of:

htdigest -c $user-passwd lm-sensors/i2c $user

where $user is your desired login, and I'll create an account for you.

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Re: [lm-sensors] Wiki changes

[Axel Thimm]

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On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 09:11:27PM +0100, Jean Delvare wrote:
> [... spam in trac ...]
> At this point it's up to the trac system administrator to continue.
> Axel, what can you offer?

Currently trac ist still in a development phase where spam fighting in
an open system needs a lot of admin love. So I'd like to ask whoever
is interested in getting involved with trac/wiki/ticket/captcha/ldap
intricacies to get it working.
-- 
Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net

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