Re: TSC Meetings for the meeting of June

[Koen Kooi <k.kooi@student.utwente.nl>]

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On 30-06-10 15:19, Holger Freyther wrote:

> In regard to the TSC, what mode of operation do you propose? We freeze
> the tree until all items are implemented in the order they are proposed?
> We find people driving a topic?

In this specific case you (or the TSC) choose to work on a extremely
intrusive and controversial *cosmetic* change first instead of tackling
the some of the (IMO more important) items agreed on earlier:

* making QA checks be enabled by default
* promoting new style staging and converting existing recipes
* promoting bbclassextend and converting existing recipes
* fixing nativesdk

By skipping over those, without saying why and going for the cosmetic
change the TSC is sending out a signal that they do NOT care about
quality, only appearance. In the past I was proud about how OE handled
things by the things you yourself created, like insane.bbclass, the
first edition of tinderbox, etc. But recently only 2 groups of OE
developers seem to care about quality, the SHR and angstrom folk. Those
are the only 2 distros that have the QA checks enabled. Due to the
nature of OE other benefit from the awesome work Martin and Khem have
been doing, but it feels a bit one sided to me.

Since nearly all OE developers can't work fulltime on OE, I would
propose that the TSC sends out a few "call to action" mails, describing
the tasks that need doing and some guidance on how they want to see it
done. I will *gladly* help out, but I need to know what needs doing and
avoid duplicate work.

It would help to have a "completed action items", "in progress action
items" and "action items that noone is working on" list in the TSC
minutes (or wiki) to keep track of stuff.

And of course a big thank you to all the people working on QA that I
didn't mention.
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