Status of WebGL with open-source intel drivers

Status of WebGL with open-source intel drivers

[Clemens Eisserer]

Hi,

Whats the current state of WebGL on various browsers with the
open-source intel driver?
I have a  i945GM based machine running Fedora-14, and no matter which
browser I try (FireFox4,  Chrome, Opera) - all tell me WebGL has been
disabled.
Even disabling sanity checks in FireFox that prevent it from enabling
WebGL whith intel drivers didn't help.

Are there any plans to support the missing OpenGL features that
prevent browsers from enabling webgl on my system?

Thank you in advance, Clemens

Re: Status of WebGL with open-source intel drivers

[Robert Kaiser]

Clemens Eisserer schrieb:
> Whats the current state of WebGL on various browsers with the
> open-source intel driver?
> I have a  i945GM based machine running Fedora-14, and no matter which
> browser I try (FireFox4,  Chrome, Opera) - all tell me WebGL has been
> disabled.
> Even disabling sanity checks in FireFox that prevent it from enabling
> WebGL whith intel drivers didn't help.
>
> Are there any plans to support the missing OpenGL features that
> prevent browsers from enabling webgl on my system?

I can't speak for the others, but as I'm working for a "browser 
manufacturer" and I have followed WebGL somewhat around here, what I can 
say is that Mozilla has only enabled WebGL on Linux for relatively 
current versions of the binary NVidia driver in Firefox 4. This is 
because there were some instabilities in Mesa and other drivers with our 
WebGL code and we wanted to get something shipped for once.

There is some environment variable that can be set to enable it despite, 
but there's a better way if you want to test in a way that hopefully can 
help both the Intel driver team and our team: try "Nightly" builds 
(currently the code on the way to Firefox 6, which is to be released in 
August). There we enable WebGL for all drivers that are new enough and 
not explicitely blacklisted (and do not crash when instantiating a GLX 
context), which makes the Intel drivers be enabled as well.

I have a 945GM-based laptop where those builds work to enable WebGL, but 
something either in how our code works or how the driver works does make 
that very inefficient, so that I only get one frame rendered every 
roughly 2 seconds. Would be interesting to have experts on both sides 
work together to find out how to improve on that.

Unfortunately, I can't test on a newer Intel chipset as my SandBridge 
system only works with vesafb and nobody seems to be willing to even 
look into https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37010 so I'm 
starting to think if I should kick out Intel from my board and graphics 
setup again. Sorry for the somewhat offtopic rant, but I'm getting 
somewhat frustrated - esp. as I'd expect that WebGL could work decently 
there if I could just use a proper driver.

Robert Kaiser

Re: Status of WebGL with open-source intel drivers

[Zhao, Jian J]

Hi Clemens,
It seems to be disabled in both Firefox4 and Chrome browsers now, and for Opera I have no idea. 
And we have did some tests with chrome 11.0.654.0(developer build 73098), the workloads like fishtank works well and its conformance tests has a pass rate of 5064/5520. And with chrome 13.0.760.0(developer build 84604), when enabled GPU accelerated Canvas 2D, there are some rendering issue. 

If you want to use it you can as following steps: 
1. For Firefox4:
Set the variable MOZ_GLX_IGNORE_BLACKLIST=1, then run the firefox. 

2.For Chrome:
Add an option --ignore-gpu-blacklist in the command line for the new version chrome, if ues about chrome 11, just add --enable-webgl in command line. 

Best regards
Zhaojian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: intel-gfx-bounces+jian.j.zhao=intel.com@lists.freedesktop.org
> [mailto:intel-gfx-bounces+jian.j.zhao=intel.com@lists.freedesktop.org] On
> Behalf Of Clemens Eisserer
> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 6:07 AM
> To: intel-gfx
> Subject: [Intel-gfx] Status of WebGL with open-source intel drivers
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Whats the current state of WebGL on various browsers with the
> open-source intel driver?
> I have a  i945GM based machine running Fedora-14, and no matter which
> browser I try (FireFox4,  Chrome, Opera) - all tell me WebGL has been
> disabled.
> Even disabling sanity checks in FireFox that prevent it from enabling
> WebGL whith intel drivers didn't help.
> 
> Are there any plans to support the missing OpenGL features that
> prevent browsers from enabling webgl on my system?
> 
> Thank you in advance, Clemens
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Re: Status of WebGL with open-source intel drivers

[Clemens Eisserer]

I just gave Chrome's accalerated canvas a try - and indeed it seems to
work really well :)
Glad to know firefox (which I use for daily browsing) should also work soon.

Thanks, Clemens

2011/5/16 Zhao, Jian J <jian.j.zhao@intel.com>:
> Hi Clemens,
> It seems to be disabled in both Firefox4 and Chrome browsers now, and for Opera I have no idea.
> And we have did some tests with chrome 11.0.654.0(developer build 73098), the workloads like fishtank works well and its conformance tests has a pass rate of 5064/5520. And with chrome 13.0.760.0(developer build 84604), when enabled GPU accelerated Canvas 2D, there are some rendering issue.
>
> If you want to use it you can as following steps:
> 1. For Firefox4:
> Set the variable MOZ_GLX_IGNORE_BLACKLIST=1, then run the firefox.
>
> 2.For Chrome:
> Add an option --ignore-gpu-blacklist in the command line for the new version chrome, if ues about chrome 11, just add --enable-webgl in command line.
>
> Best regards
> Zhaojian
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: intel-gfx-bounces+jian.j.zhao=intel.com@lists.freedesktop.org
>> [mailto:intel-gfx-bounces+jian.j.zhao=intel.com@lists.freedesktop.org] On
>> Behalf Of Clemens Eisserer
>> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 6:07 AM
>> To: intel-gfx
>> Subject: [Intel-gfx] Status of WebGL with open-source intel drivers
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Whats the current state of WebGL on various browsers with the
>> open-source intel driver?
>> I have a  i945GM based machine running Fedora-14, and no matter which
>> browser I try (FireFox4,  Chrome, Opera) - all tell me WebGL has been
>> disabled.
>> Even disabling sanity checks in FireFox that prevent it from enabling
>> WebGL whith intel drivers didn't help.
>>
>> Are there any plans to support the missing OpenGL features that
>> prevent browsers from enabling webgl on my system?
>>
>> Thank you in advance, Clemens
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
>> http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/intel-gfx
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