From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Mathieu Desnoyers" <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
"André Almeida" <andrealmeid@igalia.com>,
"Sebastian Andrzej Siewior" <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
"Carlos O'Donell" <carlos@redhat.com>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Rich Felker" <dalias@aerifal.cx>,
"Torvald Riegel" <triegel@redhat.com>,
"Darren Hart" <dvhart@infradead.org>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>,
"Davidlohr Bueso" <dave@stgolabs.net>,
"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 8/8] x86/vdso: Implement __vdso_futex_robust_try_unlock()
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2026 11:37:35 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <lhuse9ylp1s.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ecliokzz.ffs@tglx> (Thomas Gleixner's message of "Tue, 17 Mar 2026 10:36:48 +0100")
* Thomas Gleixner:
> On Tue, Mar 17 2026 at 09:28, Florian Weimer wrote:
>> * Thomas Gleixner:
>>
>>> Arguably this could be avoided by providing separate functions and making
>>> the IP range for the quick check in the exit to user path cover the whole
>>> text section which contains the two functions. But that's not a win at all
>>> because:
>>>
>>> 1) User space needs to handle the two variants instead of just
>>> relying on a bit which can be saved in the mutex at
>>> initialization time.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure that on the user-space side, we wouldn't have
>> cross-word-size operations (e.g., 64-bit code working on both 64-bit and
>> 32-bit robust mutexes). Certainly not within libcs. The other point
>> about complexity is of course still valid.
>
> Right, I know that no libc implementation supports such an insanity, but
> the kernel unfortunately allows to do so and it's used in the wild :(
>
> So we have to deal with it somehow and the size modifier was the most
> straight forward solution I could come up with. I'm all ears if someone
> has a better idea.
Maybe a separate futex op? And the vDSO would have the futex call,
mangle uaddr2 as required for the shared code section that handles both
ops?
As far as I can tell at this point, the current proposal should work.
We'd probably start with using the syscall-based unlock.
Thanks,
Florian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-17 10:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-16 17:12 [patch 0/8] futex: Address the robust futex unlock race for real Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 17:12 ` [patch 1/8] futex: Move futex task related data into a struct Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 17:55 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-17 2:24 ` André Almeida
2026-03-17 9:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 17:13 ` [patch 2/8] futex: Move futex related mm_struct " Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 18:00 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-16 17:13 ` [patch 3/8] futex: Provide UABI defines for robust list entry modifiers Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 18:02 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-17 2:38 ` André Almeida
2026-03-17 9:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 17:13 ` [patch 4/8] futex: Add support for unlocking robust futexes Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 18:24 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-17 16:17 ` André Almeida
2026-03-17 20:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-17 22:40 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-18 8:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-18 8:06 ` Florian Weimer
2026-03-18 14:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-18 16:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 17:13 ` [patch 5/8] futex: Add robust futex unlock IP range Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 18:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-17 19:19 ` André Almeida
2026-03-16 17:13 ` [patch 6/8] futex: Provide infrastructure to plug the non contended robust futex unlock race Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 18:35 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-16 20:29 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 20:52 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-16 17:13 ` [patch 7/8] x86/vdso: Prepare for robust futex unlock support Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 17:13 ` [patch 8/8] x86/vdso: Implement __vdso_futex_robust_try_unlock() Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 19:19 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-16 21:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 22:35 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-16 21:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 21:29 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-17 7:25 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-03-17 9:51 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-17 11:17 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-03-18 16:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-19 7:41 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-03-19 8:53 ` Florian Weimer
2026-03-19 9:04 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-03-19 9:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-19 23:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-19 10:36 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-19 10:49 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-03-19 10:55 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-17 8:28 ` Florian Weimer
2026-03-17 9:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-17 10:37 ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2026-03-17 22:32 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-18 22:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-18 22:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-19 2:05 ` André Almeida
2026-03-19 7:10 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-17 15:33 ` Uros Bizjak
2026-03-18 8:21 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-18 8:32 ` Uros Bizjak
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