From: Charles Nordlund <iueras@hotmail.com>
To: dm-devel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: HPA unlock during partition scan of RAID components
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 00:50:25 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <loom.20120515T024500-794@post.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20111103210810.GM4417@google.com
Tejun Heo <tj <at> kernel.org> writes:
>
> On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 07:46:52AM +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
> > What exactly do you mean by "expose both sizes" ??
> > A new ioctl - BLKGETHPASIZE64 ??
> >
> > That might work, but I think it would be good if there were also an ioctl
> > BLKHBALOCK which changed BLKGETSIZE64 to match BLKGETHPASIZE64.
> > Then some user-space tools could examine the device with a full understanding
> > of md, dm, dmraid, partitions, filesystems etc etc and make a reasonably
> > informed decision. And then put that decision into effect.
>
> In kernel, just another size field. Out of kernel, I was thinking
> more along the line of a new /sysfs field, but yeah maybe another
> ioctl. At this point, I don't really think making unlocking
> selectable is a good idea. That has to go through device detach /
> attach cycle and what if someone else is already using first half of
> the disk? We can try to be sneaky and slip in device size change
> underneath it but that just sounds too crazy to me. IMHO, we should
> unlock by default and just let everyone know what the size before
> unlocking was in case that could be useful.
>
> Thank you.
>
Just wanted to pop in and say that thanks to your "intelligent HPA unlock" code
you submitted to the kernel, I am completely unable to mount and use an NTFS
RAID0. The way it ignores the ignore_hpa=0 parameter causes the fakeraid to
fail; since the first disk in the array reports a partition size that goes
beyond EOD, the code you submitted goes ahead and unlocks it to native -- not
HPA limited -- capacity, with the expected result that it completely trashes the
array as far as Linux is concerned. What was the point of the huge debate over
locking/unlocking by default and the associated parameters if the kernel is
going to simply ignore all that -- and my explicit parameter to NOT unlock past
HPA size -- and unlock it anyway (which was determined to be a very very bad
idea way back in 2009)?
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2011-11-03 15:54 ` HPA unlock during partition scan of RAID components Tejun Heo
2011-11-03 19:00 ` Phillip Susi
2011-11-04 14:48 ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-04 15:42 ` Phillip Susi
2011-11-04 15:52 ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-04 16:26 ` Phillip Susi
2011-11-04 16:32 ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-04 21:08 ` Phillip Susi
2011-11-04 21:50 ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-05 1:29 ` Phillip Susi
2011-11-05 1:43 ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-05 2:26 ` Phillip Susi
2011-11-05 2:52 ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-05 3:50 ` Phillip Susi
2011-11-03 20:46 ` NeilBrown
2011-11-03 21:08 ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-15 0:50 ` Charles Nordlund [this message]
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